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Unfortunately no.Date: 5/23/2008 5:44:45 PM
Author: Garry H (Cut Nut)
Do you have an ideal-scope QM - you can easily take a photo with one - it is very easy
I will try to attach some. These aren''t the greatest. It''s hard to get good ones with my camera.Date: 5/23/2008 5:44:45 PM
Author: Garry H (Cut Nut)
Can you photograph the worst stone face on?
Date: 5/23/2008 6:00:32 PM
Author: old-fashioned girl
Date: 5/23/2008 5:44:45 PM
Author: Garry H (Cut Nut)
Do you have an ideal-scope QM - you can easily take a photo with one - it is very easy
Unfortunately no.
Date: 5/23/2008 5:44:45 PM
Author: Garry H (Cut Nut)
Can you photograph the worst stone face on?
I will try to attach some. These aren't the greatest. It's hard to get good ones with my camera.
(I notice in these pictures the diamonds also show the color difference that I see. The appraiser said they are the same color, but to me they face up VERY differently. And to almost everyone I've asked.)
That''s good to know. Because the appraiser did find that there was strong blue fluorescence in 1 stone on each side. Although it seems to me in both cases the smaller stone was darker, but in 1 case the smaller stone had SBF, while on the other side the larger stone had it. But hopefully it is still the reason why they look different to me. (Because I think my jeweler will swap out the stones w/ SBF.)Date: 5/23/2008 7:40:56 PM
Author: Garry H (Cut Nut)
QM I can not help with the colour differences other than suggest you check under a black light - if some stones are fluoro then they wil appear whiter in some lighting.
That helps to know. Thanks!The table sizes in the smaller stones meausre up under 60% and that should not be a problem.
The appraiser did that, and I still saw the spots. Plus I have an US at home, although not a steamer, but I always see the spots.Can you have a jeweller ultrasonic and steam clean your ring?
Hi OFG - I''m sorry about this saga you''re going through, I have been following your threads.Date: 5/23/2008 10:16:28 PM
Author: Garry H (Cut Nut)
Afraid you need to replace them all then with all fluoro or all non fluoro to fix the colour, and diamonds selected with an ideal-scope QM.
It will drive you nuts otherwise
not sure that is 100% of the answer because you have fairly large stones at a steep angle.Date: 5/23/2008 10:16:28 PM
Author: Garry H (Cut Nut)
Afraid you need to replace them all then with all fluoro or all non fluoro to fix the colour, and diamonds selected with an ideal-scope QM.
It will drive you nuts otherwise
Strm, may I ask your opinion, as doesn''t this beg the question - why would a jeweler design this setting? If they knew much about diamonds at all than didn''t they realize what would happen?Date: 5/23/2008 11:59:41 PM
Author: strmrdr
Using Garry''s theory here is the light return model for the dark zone.
This is for a modern tolk the model stone for an ideal cut.
Turn the stone Storm, so you are looking out a set of lower girdle facetsDate: 5/23/2008 11:59:41 PM
Author: strmrdr
Using Garry''s theory here is the light return model for the dark zone.
This is for a modern tolk the model stone for an ideal cut.
changed the backlight to red.Date: 5/24/2008 7:43:56 AM
Author: Garry H (Cut Nut)
Turn the stone Storm, so you are looking out a set of lower girdle facetsDate: 5/23/2008 11:59:41 PM
Author: strmrdr
Using Garry's theory here is the light return model for the dark zone.
This is for a modern tolk the model stone for an ideal cut.
arjunajane: I highlighted the answer to your question in the above post.Date: 5/6/2008 12:43:41 PM
Author: old-fashioned girl
He said it was pretty. He didn''t comment on workmanship quality, really. He did seem to think that I shouldn''t have gone with a hinged shank, as he has seen problems with them. (but again, I tried to ask about all the potential pitfalls beforehand, plus I probably would have bought an off-the-shelf ring at much lower cost had I known for sure that hinged shank wouldn''t work, but whatever...) He seemed to think the diamonds are in spec, which was H, SI1. He didn''t seem to see any significant difference in color between them, just the difference in fluorescence. I asked about the dark spots, and he just brushed that aside because diamonds do look different as the light changes. What bothers me is that they are so pronounced from the top-down, and something I have never noticed in other rings under the same conditions. In fact, when I look at other rings w/ sidestones, I have a hard time making them display those dark shadows. I don''t know why I didn''t notice them sooner, but I am slow; probably wouldn''t have made a difference anyway. But anyway, getting back to your question, he just measures, to the best that he can, whether the ring is platinum, whether my center stone matches my AGS certificate, and to the best that he can, specs of the mounted sidestones. And overall it seems to meet spec, I think. (Other than cut quality, don''t know how much he could tell mounted, but he said at one point, ''above average''. They were supposed to be near-ideal to ideal. Not sure how far off ''above average'' is, if at all.? (When I talk to him I''ll have to remember to ask him that. )Date: 5/6/2008 12:16:30 PM
Author: Ellen
O, did he give an overall impression of the ring? And please refresh my memory, what color and cut were the side stones supposed to be?
And he couldn''t say much about whether the semi-bezels need to cover so much of the diamonds for security, not being a jewelry maker.
I had tons of questions, but a lot of them he couldn''t answer definitively.
Thanks, arj. The only way to "can just scrap the whole thing and start again" would be if we could get a refund. Otherwise I am out big bucks for a platinum ring w/ mismatched (at least visually) sidestones & a very expensive Fingermate shank. I blew my reset budget on this, and made the mistake of going with a vendor who does not have a remake or refund policy. Big, big mistake. (Unless he would agree to a refund, after all.) As it is, I may still have to scrap the FM shank, hopefully he will at least refund that?, because he did not warn me that it might totally deform in less than a month, or that it might be too weak for this design. But in any case, if he won''t give a refund, I am stuck with just trying to make the best of this.Date: 5/23/2008 10:33:46 PM
Author: arjunajane
Hi OFG - I''m sorry about this saga you''re going through, I have been following your threads.
I''m sorry as this is probably not waht you want to hear, but is there any way you can just scrap the whole thing and start again..?
I can definately see what you''re worried about in the pics and it would p** me off - are you intent on this style? Can you swap out the stones as garry has said, or choose a new setting without too much financial loss?
Again I''m sorry and hope you can have it resolved soon hon..![]()
I was afraid it might be something like this.Date: 5/24/2008 12:21:12 AM
Author: strmrdr
this is how an RB is designed to return light.
Which is different than what is needed the way they are mounted.
Wednesday. I hate that it has taken so long, but he wanted me to get the appraisal first, and then that took longer than anticipated. I am anxious to hear what can be done. This truly has been making me sick.Date: 5/24/2008 6:55:45 AM
Author: Ellen
OFG, when are you meeting with Pete again?