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Oh jeeze, do they really need an entire hour to announce that they''re divorcing?
 
Maybe they''ll announce that they''re going to family therapy (they''ll need a big room)- and at the end of the season they can re-renew their vows.
 
I really hope that they aren''t calling it quits. For the sake of the children, I really hope the announcement is that they are ending the show after this season--and then they can privately retire. If Kate wants to write books and do speaking engagements...fine....but get the camera out of their home and let them heal.
 
maybe they''re having another baby?! ;0

between this show and real houswives, I feel like I have plenty of drama to enjoy even though there''s no juicy stuff in my own real life anymore lol
 
Date: 6/18/2009 3:09:05 PM
Author: Italiahaircolor
I really hope that they aren''t calling it quits. For the sake of the children, I really hope the announcement is that they are ending the show after this season--and then they can privately retire. If Kate wants to write books and do speaking engagements...fine....but get the camera out of their home and let them heal.

I certainly hope that they are ending the show-but I don''t agree with the hope that they aren''t divorcing! I think it''s better to have divorced parents than live in a household full of animosity...they seem so far beyond therapy at this point.
 
For the kids sake (and for Jon too) I hope they ARE divorcing.

As the product of a marriage where the mom was JUST LIKE Kate, I can tell you that it warps your sense of what is a healthy relationship and how you will likely relate to men in your own life. Trust me, the kids will be better off not growing up watching Jon being belittled on every single thing he does or thinks.
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I agree with PP not only from the perspective of the children but honestly, no one deserves to be in a relationship like this...not Jon and not Kate. I get that they have children but you have to think about your own well being too. You can''t be effective if you are miserable.
 
I''ve never seen the show, but just watched the clip and, of course, have heard things from the news. I am sorry, but I think the whole thing is just sick. A family''s potential demise is not something for promos and the cameras. They should show an ounce of class by stoping the reality circus and moving on with their lives in private.
 
I hope they''re announcing that they will not continue with the show. That''s the only way they''re ever going to be able to work through all of this and TRY to fix their marriage... if that''s even what they want to do at this point
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Date: 6/18/2009 4:26:59 PM
Author: BizouMom
I''ve never seen the show, but just watched the clip and, of course, have heard things from the news. I am sorry, but I think the whole thing is just sick. A family''s potential demise is not something for promos and the cameras. They should show an ounce of class by stoping the reality circus and moving on with their lives in private.
I think at this point it''s more complicated than just crying "uncle"...I am sure they have contracts with TLC to finish the 5th season which is approximately another 36 episodes. Not only TLC but all the other brands that are linked to them as well. If they were to say "enough" right now...they could probably loose everything...and for two otherwise unemployeed people with 8 children under foot, that would be horrible.

I agree, however, that the platform is completely incorrect. They needed to, given the fact that Jon was so unhappy, not do a 5th season. Maybe one show to simply say "sorry fans, but our marriage comes first"...but, sadly it''s probably not a realistic option for them anymore. I also find it uncomfortable that they are using a family friendly G-rated show as their own personal gauntlet. But, it does make for good TV...sick as that sounds.
 
Date: 6/18/2009 6:44:27 PM
Author: Italiahaircolor

Date: 6/18/2009 4:26:59 PM
Author: BizouMom
I''ve never seen the show, but just watched the clip and, of course, have heard things from the news. I am sorry, but I think the whole thing is just sick. A family''s potential demise is not something for promos and the cameras. They should show an ounce of class by stoping the reality circus and moving on with their lives in private.
I think at this point it''s more complicated than just crying ''uncle''...I am sure they have contracts with TLC to finish the 5th season which is approximately another 36 episodes. Not only TLC but all the other brands that are linked to them as well. If they were to say ''enough'' right now...they could probably loose everything...and for two otherwise unemployeed people with 8 children under foot, that would be horrible.

I agree, however, that the platform is completely incorrect. They needed to, given the fact that Jon was so unhappy, not do a 5th season. Maybe one show to simply say ''sorry fans, but our marriage comes first''...but, sadly it''s probably not a realistic option for them anymore. I also find it uncomfortable that they are using a family friendly G-rated show as their own personal gauntlet. But, it does make for good TV...sick as that sounds.
I had no idea this show was in its 5th season. I sure hope they packed away some of the money they got for doing this because therapy for 8 kids won''t come cheap.
 
Date: 6/18/2009 6:44:27 PM
Author: Italiahaircolor

Date: 6/18/2009 4:26:59 PM
Author: BizouMom
I''ve never seen the show, but just watched the clip and, of course, have heard things from the news. I am sorry, but I think the whole thing is just sick. A family''s potential demise is not something for promos and the cameras. They should show an ounce of class by stoping the reality circus and moving on with their lives in private.
I think at this point it''s more complicated than just crying ''uncle''...I am sure they have contracts with TLC to finish the 5th season which is approximately another 36 episodes. Not only TLC but all the other brands that are linked to them as well. If they were to say ''enough'' right now...they could probably loose everything...and for two otherwise unemployeed people with 8 children under foot, that would be horrible.

I agree, however, that the platform is completely incorrect. They needed to, given the fact that Jon was so unhappy, not do a 5th season. Maybe one show to simply say ''sorry fans, but our marriage comes first''...but, sadly it''s probably not a realistic option for them anymore. I also find it uncomfortable that they are using a family friendly G-rated show as their own personal gauntlet. But, it does make for good TV...sick as that sounds.
I agree... Everything has been public so far, including their recent tensions around Jon''s alleged affair... if there is to be some closure to their marriage, then I guess they would feel obligated to publicly let their fans know as well.

This could just be a ratings promo by TLC...but I really don''t like how this whole ''announcement'' thing is sounding. It really does sound like it could be a divorce/separation announcement.
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I feel sad about that....
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it''s obvious there are some major issues in this marriage but for the sake of their large family, I really hoped they would''ve tried to work it out - at least try counselling or something first (haven''t heard that they did). Divorce is hard on children - and the kids seem to love their father so much. It''s not they won''t ever see their father again, of course - but going from doing so many things together as a large family to having their parents separated would be quite an adjustment, I think. Especially at their young ages...and especially since they just had this Vow Renewal Ceremony in Hawaii where they promised their children they would be ''together forever''.
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So sad...the whole thing. I really love watching the family and I feel really sorry for how they might be affected by this - the children especially.
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I think what makes me the most sad is the way the marriage crumbled. If it had been the stress of 8 children; okay. If it had been the fact that the spark was gone; okay. If it had been for any "organic" reason; fine. But I feel like they made choices that ended the marriage...outside forces. Kates need for the spotlight. Jon''s affair. These things could have been avoided with a few smart decisions...they weren''t unavoidable.

And in the end, there are 8 little casualities. 8 children who were lied to when their parents told them "we''re together forever" in a very public vow renewal. These little children had no choice and no say in how their lives have been lived, shaped and formed. I am sure that they would prefer a simple life with two committed parents over free vacations, a big house, and mini-stardom. But because of the essence of them, they were never going to have a normal life...not from the moment they were born--6 babies is the making of a sideshow, which, they have essentially become.

I think, if Jon and Kate do seperate and divorce, the whole thing is going to turn into a 3 ring circus. How could it not? Custody, money, fame, and of course tension. But I think the fall out is what will be the real cost. Children are always told when parents divorce "this wasn''t because of you"....but that won''t apply here...the Gosslin''s are famous because of their children, and because of their fame their family fell apart--sure, it was a chain of selffish choices, but if Jon and Kate only had two or three or even 8 children born of individual pregnancies they wouldn''t be extrordinary.

Needless to say, I''ll be watching Monday...and hoping beyond hope that they''re willing to fight the good fight, change as people and rebuild their marriage...but I will not be overly shocked if they shrug their shoulders and say "we''re done".
 
I think Kate''s treatment of Jon probably contributed to them drifting apart from each other - also the stress of having 8 children. It''s hard to connect when you have to be parents all the time - that''s my take, anyway.

Here''s another update - it does look like divorce....
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In this story her brother, Kevin and sister are slamming them to no end.... Awfull...

Jon and Kate Announcement Spoiler
 
You know, I really didn''t want to believe any of this - I wanted to think that it was just all tabloid hype, and that in the midst of everything, Jon and Kate are still good people who just have a lot of stress, and they''d be able to figure it out for the sake of their kids and their own sanity.

I''d been Neflixing my way through the series, and at the end of season 3 it just started getting uncomfortable to watch. Then DH and I watched the episodes last night where they''re moving into the new house...and it''s so incredibly apparent that Jon and Kate have absolutely no relationship anymore. Not even a roommate/partner/parent relationship. DH even said "This is creepy. It feels cold in that house, the kids don''t seem the same anymore." Even though they fought in earlier seasons, you could still see some semblance of partnership and friendship. I don''t know if they would have made it without the TV show, I don''t know if anyone can know that...but it''s pretty clear that the fame and the show and the outpouring of money sped up the demise. When I was little, my parents would say "money doesn''t buy happiness," and I seriously doubted them...but watching J&K recently illustrates the adage pretty clearly.

My heart breaks for the kids. There are two things I hope: 1) Jon and Kate paid for that house outright so they (the kids) don''t lose everything and 2)The kids get counseling - the sooner, the better.
 
That footage of their wedding and how they met was so sweet. They were so in love
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What a shame if it''s true that they are getting a divorce. I think people shouldn''t come down so hard on Kate though because it takes two to tango. There are two sides to every story and the truth is often somewhere in between. It must be very hard and stressful to raise 8 kids so close in age ( especially with cameras following them around).
 
Date: 6/20/2009 12:39:05 AM
Author: innerkitten
That footage of their wedding and how they met was so sweet. They were so in love
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What a shame if it''s true that they are getting a divorce. I think people shouldn''t come down so hard on Kate though because it takes two to tango. There are two sides to every story and the truth is often somewhere in between. It must be very hard and stressful to raise 8 kids so close in age ( especially with cameras following them around).
I agree that the truth is usually somewhere in the middle, but it is clear that Kate is horrible to her husband. Maybe she apologizes later, but that does not absolve the action. And what Jon is or isn''t doing is less clear, but I say call a spade a spade. You cannot belittle and berate someone constantly and expect them to be thrilled with you. I watched my SO''s SIL do it to his brother, and I was APPALLED that no one said anything. If it were MY SIL, talking to MY brother, I would have taken her aside and given her a piece of my mind. Followed by my mother, sister, aunt, female cousins. That is not how you treat someone you love, period. If you are stressed, then you need to go to counseling and learn better coping mechanisms. Meditate, do yoga, pray... but your hostility reflects on YOU, not your spouse. Jon would just play with the kids and Kate would roll her eyes and complain! Ridiculous.

It is sad though, they did seem so happy and carefree!
 
I think this is a horrible way to have to live. The cameras are on the family 4 days a week. Jon didn't like it and the kids don't either. Kate looks quite comfortable with the attention.

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Date: 6/20/2009 4:05:05 PM
Author: swingirl
I think this is a horrible way to have to live. The cameras are on the family 4 days a week. Jon didn''t like it and the kids don''t either. Kate looks quite comfortable with the attention.
thanks for the visual, and definitely agree...
 
I feel so bad for those poor kids. I''m a child of divorce and I know how hard this is going to be for them as they grow up. It''s really a sad story... if not for fame and fortune, maybe they could be a happy family. I hope they''ve saved their money so they can pay for therapy.
 
Date: 6/22/2009 7:07:07 PM
Author: upgrade
I feel so bad for those poor kids. I''m a child of divorce and I know how hard this is going to be for them as they grow up. It''s really a sad story... if not for fame and fortune, maybe they could be a happy family. I hope they''ve saved their money so they can pay for therapy.
Same here upgrade. Poor kids.
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Date: 6/22/2009 7:09:33 PM
Author: Ellen


Date: 6/22/2009 7:07:07 PM
Author: upgrade
I feel so bad for those poor kids. I'm a child of divorce and I know how hard this is going to be for them as they grow up. It's really a sad story... if not for fame and fortune, maybe they could be a happy family. I hope they've saved their money so they can pay for therapy.
Same here upgrade. Poor kids.
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I feel terrible for the kids, too. Too bad the parents couldn't see through all the mess to try and salvage things for the kids, at least.
 
Ok, I have to admit to not watching the show, but I have been watching "Say yes to the dress" and the funny thing is that Kate was in recently to get a dress for the affirmation of vows ceremony...hmmm, I don''t know which part is feeding off of which, but I wonder if its a split and reconciliation in one show?

Here''s hoping its just all for the drama.
 
Date: 6/22/2009 7:13:28 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006

Date: 6/22/2009 7:09:33 PM
Author: Ellen



Date: 6/22/2009 7:07:07 PM
Author: upgrade
I feel so bad for those poor kids. I''m a child of divorce and I know how hard this is going to be for them as they grow up. It''s really a sad story... if not for fame and fortune, maybe they could be a happy family. I hope they''ve saved their money so they can pay for therapy.
Same here upgrade. Poor kids.
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I feel terrible for the kids, too. Too bad the parents couldn''t see through all the mess to try and salvage things for the kids, at least.
Yeah, and it''s too bad they couldn''t see from the beginning that having a film crew following you around and halfway living with you wouldn''t be healthy for anybody.....
 
Date: 6/22/2009 7:19:44 PM
Author: Ellen

Date: 6/22/2009 7:13:28 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006


Date: 6/22/2009 7:09:33 PM
Author: Ellen




Date: 6/22/2009 7:07:07 PM
Author: upgrade
I feel so bad for those poor kids. I''m a child of divorce and I know how hard this is going to be for them as they grow up. It''s really a sad story... if not for fame and fortune, maybe they could be a happy family. I hope they''ve saved their money so they can pay for therapy.
Same here upgrade. Poor kids.
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I feel terrible for the kids, too. Too bad the parents couldn''t see through all the mess to try and salvage things for the kids, at least.
Yeah, and it''s too bad they couldn''t see from the beginning that having a film crew following you around and halfway living with you wouldn''t be healthy for anybody.....
Really!!!!!
 
I hate to hear when marriages don''t work out...

But, can I say, even though I only watched *maybe* 5 episodes, I didn''t see affection between those two. If anything, I saw tolerance of one another...hardly any playfulness...definitely not love and affection. So I can''t say I''m surprised.

Again, I didn''t see the show like that, but I did notice this off the bat.
 
Their image is tarnished but everyone still seems to want to watch their lives unfold and crumble.

Jon never really wanted the 2nd pregnancy. He was happy with the twins and didn't want any more but Kate wanted "just one more" and went on fertility drugs. I think she thrives on attention and Jon hates it. The poor kids are stuck in the middle and have to live their lives in a fish bowl. Who wants videos of themselves on YouTube being spanked? Who wants the world to see their time-outs, melt downs, fake birthday parties and bickering parents. These kids will pay the price big time.
 
All I can say is that I''m sad. Sad for Jon and Kate, because you know they never saw themselves here in the beginning. Sad for the children who deserve two loving, committed parents. And sad for the viewers who were rooting for a happy ending.

I can''t say that they didn''t bring this on themselves...because they did.
 
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