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[geri]

Bliss - you crack me up. That picture is really creepy.

Noelwr - I must admit I thought the same thing about temping until I did some reading. There was no way I would have done it if I couldn''t just pop it in my mouth and I think it would have completely weirded SO out!

Have started temping again this cycle so that I can hopefully work out if I ovulate this cycle. My temps are a little up and down but I think it is because it is the middle of summer here and some nights are really hot and I wake up overheated. Hopefully when the time is right I will get a clear shift in temp again to indicate ovulation.

SO is really keen to start TTC again straight away which surprised me a little. I think he has had a couple of conversations with people (including his brother) who have been through miscarriages and the reality of how long it may take to fall pregnant again has set in. I suspect he also feels he has missed out on a bit of "TLC" lately and wants to make up for lost time!

I vacillate between wanting to wait till AF comes again and thinking it will probably take some time anyway so why wait? I''m inclined to just go with the flow and just see what happens because the more I think about, the more I overanalyse it, including whilst BD which takes the fun out of it!

 

[luvinlife]

BLISS-Honestly,you are a one crazy woman! Posts by you always make me laugh.

(Hi, HOU, NOELWR, LV, ALLIE, (and anyone else I might have missed))

So against better judgement and because I am very curious, I have started plotting temps. I had a really short cycle this month (3 days) and am currently on cycle day 4. I guess AF had to meet her man for a rendevous or something. It''s great to think that we could actually become pregnant again this month. I can''t believe it has been 2 month since our m/c.

PS: taking bbt''s is really messing with my sleep....I hope we get pregnant soon

LL.

 

[Bliss]

luvinlife, HAHAHAHA! I love that photo! I giggled over it for 3 days straight! Wow, I can''t believe it''s been 2 months, either. It feels like forever for us. AF is a crazy lady, eh? I agree that temping is stressful in that I never know if my thermometers are reliable, how long I''ve been asleep for and etc. DH and I feel ready to try this month but another part of me wishes we had more years together first. I think it''s the last vestige of "Ah, my love! It will never again just be us two!" It''s such a bittersweet thought!

Bella, what''s up? You are so sweet to pop in and check up on us! I love it!

You are a dear friend!

HOU!!! HAHA!!! Did the women in the locker room scream when they saw Aunt Flo? You know, from far away she could pass for a man with that new facial hair! Heeheehee. So glad you weren''t *too* freaked out by it. It sure freaked DH out when I showed him the pic!

noelwr, that is too funny about the cats! Charting is SO much fun! I wish I had started a long time ago. I can''t wait to see the O spike! I hope I get an O spike! Who knows? I could have a really wonky cycle with temps all over the place. It''s really interesting!

geri, HUGS. A bunch of us are temping for the first time this month! Very exciting! How nice that your SO is so excited about starting a family. I agree that thinking more about it can be even more confusing!

On my end, I''m CD 10. Wondering when the heck I''ll O, which could be really anyone''s guess. It''s hard not knowing what to expect. But I feel so much better temping because it gives me a bigger picture of my overall cycle. Otherwise, I''d be wondering what the heck was going on. So far, so good! I''m going to take it one day at a time... if I get EWCF and feel like it, we will. If I don''t, we won''t. I''m just going to go with the flow!

Charters, please share your O days and etc! I''ve been looking over FF''s charts for women post m/c and they look surprisingly normal - except CF was all over the place for some so it was confusing to pinpoint the O date until after the temp spike. Many of them had a few temp spikes that *could* have been O days but weren''t until the super big jump days later. It''s going to be interrreeeeeestiiiiiiiing!!!

 

[luvinlife]

I am going to take you up on the charting discussion Bliss as I want to spare my DH from a description of my cm.

Today, 2/3/10, Im on CD 5 (AF only stayed around for the 3 days this month, she had a date in the Riviera). CM is lotion-like (as Bella so eloquently put it).....

O date is expected on Feb 12 (hypothetically of course). Must BD on 2/10,2/12, and 2/14.

As a side note, I see myself using all of these acromyns and I am disbelief....but wow,I sound impressive!


LL.

 

[noelwr]

luvinlife - saw your post on the other thread. why do you have to wake up at 5am?

wow! I also understand all your acroynyms! in Oct when I first read the TTC thread I was like What the hell is this alien language these women seem to converse with each other in??? I can''t believe that soon there after I was speaking alien along with everyone else.

 

[Bliss]

luvinlife, wow, so you are temping! GREAT!!! HOU and I had some wonky cycles - we thought AF was 4 days but she popped back in for a quick hello later. It was super short, I agree. Isn't it exciting yet scary at the same time? I have a confession to make... RueLaLa, one of many designer sale sites I've gotten hooked on, was having a jeans sale. I looked and happened to see some maternity jeans mixed in with the other jeans...they looked SO cute and super cheap! I bought a pair - hope they're not too big! I usually wear 25/26 but I bought size 30 because they said to buy bigger. I hope they're not too big! I'd rather have them bigger than too tight. They looked like skinny jeans anyway, and who wears skinny jeans while preggo? I remember the last time I was pregnant EVERYTHING felt too tight. This is significant for me because it's the first baby related item I have ever bought. And it kind of made me feel more optimistic. DH is going to laugh when he sees them!

I had some "S" quality CF today. Could it mean that O is getting closer? I hope so! Told DH and he's celebrating... who knew that we'd ever celebrate O signs? LOL The only O we used to celebrate was

and now the letter has a whole new meaning!

noelwr, I am with you! I actually read the entire TTC thread and it would make me nuts when I lost my "page/bookmark" because there's no way to go straight to the last page you read. I'd have to mark it as a bookmark/link otherwise I'd have to clickclickclick hundreds of pages to get to my last read post. Ahh, those were good times! Funny how we're the aliens now, eh?

 

[luvinlife]

Date: 2/3/2010 11:59:40 AM
Author: noelwr
luvinlife - saw your post on the other thread. why do you have to wake up at 5am?

wow! I also understand all your acroynyms! in Oct when I first read the TTC thread I was like What the hell is this alien language these women seem to converse with each other in??? I can''t believe that soon there after I was speaking alien along with everyone else.

Its official Noelwr, we are all in a special club now that we all understand this completely wonky language. Why do I wake up at 5?....great question. For starters, I feel like I am going to forget to take my temp if I dont set my phone at a particular early time. Also, I know that at 5am my DH isn''t going to chat with me about our upcoming daily events and ect
....geesh after typing this, I see that I am inflicting non-necessary pain on myself.
Also, I''ve been meaning to mention that I lived in the Netherlands for two years. I loved it.

Bliss-Ruelala is fabulous. Im going to go see if they still have preggo jeans available. I think we are around the same size (I wear a 23/24). I curious to see what I would like at 9 month preggo. My mom gained 20 lbs me and always said she look better after her pregnancies...I hope I have her post-pregnancy genes when the time comes. Also, do you shop at ideeli? They have sales similar to Ruelala.

 

[Bliss]

luvinlife! I love RueLaLa! Also love Gilt Groupe and HauteLook. I own waaaay too many shoes now! My mom also looked better after she had babies! I think it was from running after us! I need to check out ideeli now!!! Wow, waking up at 5am to temp? That is dedication! These days, DH sticks TWO thermometers in my mouth at 7a (one on each side!)... I sleepily look at the results out of curiosity. Then, when I wake up around 9a, I temp again - which kind of erases the earlier temps, which I have by then forgotten. I think I'll just start going by the temps when he wakes up! I have no idea why I complicate this. It's just that the temps when he wakes up are SO low! And I started my chart on MY wakeup times. Yet he always wakes me up no matter how quiet he is. Hahahaha. Ahhhhh, I'll get it right someday!!!!

 

[luvinlife]

Man-O-Man.
AF had an arguement with her man and decided to pay me a visit yesterday afternoon just to make sure I was ok. As much I LOVE flo, I had to make her understand that it''s now O''s turn to shine. She cried a bit, lingered for a few hours, but left (thank God).
Today is CD7- I took my temp at 7:00am, but I still woke up at 5 thinking about taking my temp.
Bliss- I think I''d pay to see a pic of you with your 2 thermometers. I can sorta picture it....I think Im going to have to pay-off your DH to post the incriminating pictures...do you think chocolate will work?

 

[noelwr]

yah... I too want to see a sleepy-eyed Bliss with two thermometers hanging out of her mouth...

waking up at a 9am... I''m so jealous!

 

[Bliss]

luvinlife! HA! AF is so funny!!! Thank goodness she finally left! What a drama queen! I bet those were fake tears! LOL So today is CD7? Today is my...CD 13 and the CF is very confusing! I bet it''s going to be very tricky on and off CF this month! I am laughing about your wanting to see me with two thermometers! One is blue and the other is pink! Yes, DH would totally love to bust me by releasing photos! Ha!

noelwr, heeheee. How are you? I think at some point, I''ll just use the Walgreens BBT therm. It''s the best! The ladies in TTC recommended it and as usual, they are right!

So I had another meltdown the other day... just got SO sad out of nowhere! That led me to think I think it would be best to wait one more month. But at least it''ll be exciting to see if I O! I wonder when I''ll stop being sad about the bean we lost. Will it overshadow the joy of a new pregnancy? Should I wait even longer? I just wonder because some women on other boards say they are always a little sad about it but the new pregnancy helped them heal. Hmmmm... this is all new for us! Last night I floated the idea of waiting longer to TTC... we''re going to talk more about it today!

Hugs & love, ladies!!!

 

[geri]

Bliss - Hugs to you. I hope you are feeling better. It is so hard when the sadness pops up out of the blue.

I am on CD15 today. CM is all over the place but I got a positive on the OPK yesterday so am hoping that means I will ovulate soon. Just waiting for the temp spike now. I suspect we won''t TTC this cycle. We have been using protection and I can''t bring myself to say anything to SO about stopping because it feels like too much pressure for him, so I suspect we will miss out by default this month if I ovulate soon. In some ways I''m sad about missing the opportunity but I''m not sure I''m ready for the two week wait process again yet. I''m hoping that at least this means that my cycle is getting back on track and we will be ready to go next month.

Hope everyone else is doing well.

 

[noelwr]

I think I''m having the exact opposite problem. still waiting for AF (she can stay away this week because we might be cutting it close as I will be away from DH next week... all under the assumption that I''ll go straight back to my 26-day cycle), and I''m tempted to tell DH to not bother with the condoms anymore. we hate those things and I can''t wait for the excitement to start TTC again. but we''re being good and following doctor''s orders. also, would be way too stressful to get preggers now and not have any dates to work with to know how far along, etc.

I''m not experiencing any sadness, but that''s not to say I won''t ever look back and think about it. if we don''t manage to get preggers again I will probably think about it a lot. but for now, I''m feeling myself again and happy and very often in the mood for

, which is not something I used to feel often even before the m/c.

 

[Bliss]

How are all you ladies?

geri, good to hear from you! CM for me is ALL over the place, too! Amen to that! It's been confusing for sure! I'm waiting for the temp spike but it doesn't come. We haven't even decided if we're going to try this month, but I just hate not knowing. I am super happy that I am temping for the first time because it gives me a clearer picture and reassurance that even though my CM is wonky, I still haven't O'd yet. I would talk to your SO... I understand it is a sensitive topic but you might be pleasantly surprised by what he says. I don't remember how we started talking about it but I think I asked him when he'd like to try again. We were both so traumatized by the mc, we were both dancing around the topic for weeks because we were so scared to try again. In our hearts, we really do. It's just a very scary journey to undertake once more. Hugs to you. I hope you get that temp spike soon!

noelwr, sorry about AF. She was so frustrating for me, too. Does the worry and mystery ever end? Gosh, I hope so! At first it was, will the mc ever be over? Will it just HAPPEN already and put me out of my misery? Then it was... is it over? Then it was... when will the gosh darned HCG fall? And finally it was WHERE IS AF? Now... it's will I ever ovulate again or did the mc throw off my regular cycles forever?

Wow, who knew it would be so stressful. I used to take it all for granted. I never even gave a moment's thought to AF or my cycles. They just came and went. La-di-da! Now, it's like I'm a crazy temping, CF inspecting, cervix-checking banshee! Hahahaha! OK, I am laughing now! Humor is the only thing keeping me sane these days and there are plenty of things to laugh at these days! It's just hilarious sometimes!

DH went out of town for 2 days and I was initially panicked at the thought of O'ing during that small window. Then I laughed and remembered that we weren't even planning to TTC until maybe our 2nd cycle. Still, I didn't like having the possibility taken away! Just in case, you know?

Anyway, we're just going to play it by ear. I won't even venture to guess what the emotions are going to be like when we actually TTC again. I think I'll be overcome with fright throughout the entire process! I'll be leaning on you ladies for support, that's for sure!

Wishing all of you ladies the best and dust! Love love love all around.

 

[geri]

Noelwr - I hope AF times her return to your convenience. I think we all deserve a little luck with when our cycles get back on track!!

Bliss - You are so right about humour, and you are certainly doing your bit to keep us amused!! Thanks for the laughs. And good luck with deciding when to TTC. It''s a harder decision than I thought. As I mentioned, I didn''t tell SO I thought I might be in the fertile window so we were using protection but then we had a mishap with a condom and I was a little freaked out wondering "what if". I think it''s extremely low risk that anything would happen as a result (probably TMI but there was limited "leakage" and is turns out, I don''t think I O''d) but it did make me stop to think whether I was ready.

As it turns out, we may still have a chance this cycle because, despite the positive OPK on Saturday, I''ve had no temp spike so am assuming I didn''t O. Very confusing since its now CD17 which means its pretty unlikely this will be a normal length cycle for me. i guess we will just have to wait and see. In the meantime, I''m hoping that, like Noelwr, we will just feel in the mood for

and throw caution to the wind!

 

[noelwr]

hi everyone.

back from my vacation and AF even met up with me in the States.

nothing strange about AF so far, I am happy to report. today I am CD4 of the 1st month of TTC Round #2.

I got the CBFM (which I had to order off of amazon) and 60 test sticks. wonder how it will go as I was reading a little bit about Bliss'' experience this month on the TTC thread. as I am addicted to POAS, think I will take a HPT tomorrow just to make sure again that it is negative and that there won''t be confusion later. anyway, hope that the CBFM can keep up with whatever strangeness my body throws at it. but long story short, we''re going to get back at it this month.

hope everyone else is well.

 

[Bliss]

Hi geri! I didn't see this! How are you doing? Thinking of you! I always think of you ladies and hope you are doing well.

noelwr, HELLO! Sounds like you had an amazing vacation! SO happy that AF is right on time for you! WAY TO GO!!! Good luck on this cycle! Oooh, I have heard such great things on here about the CBFM. Good luck!!!! It sounds like your cycles will be much easier to read than mine. Even my AF took forever for the first cycle but then again, that's because I had a clot left behind! After it was removed, I got AF 2 weeks later. DUST DUST DUST for you!

Activity on this thread died down, so I jumped over into the TTC thread to join the amazing ladies there! Feel free to come on over! It feels so much better to be able to chat about it with women who are going through the same process. I know I've already learned a lot from the past few weeks there. HUGS

 

[geri]

Good to see everyone back.

Noelwr - I''m glad everything seems to be back to normal for you and good luck with TTC this month.

Bliss - I have been popping into the main TTC thread every now and again and I''m sorry you are having such a confusing time this cycle. It''s so frustrating not knowing what is going on. I''m glad you seem to be maintaining that sense of humour of yours and hope it sorts itself out soon.

I think AF is just starting for me on CD 29. Fertility friend gave me a tentative O date of CD 15 after my temp climbed over a couple of days (a little different to last time when I had a clear jump) so that seems to make sense now. My cycle is normally about 30-31 days so this is pretty close to normal for me which is good. We will start TTC again this month so fingers crossed.

Good luck to everyone.

 

[geri]

Hi everyone

I didn''t want to be a downer and post this on the main TTC thread, what with the other good news over there, so thought I would come back here and throw myself a little pity party with people who will understand. In a nutshell, it seems like I had a chemical pregnancy this month.

Started getting suspicious that I may have been pregnant on the weekend- big temperature dip on Friday followed by a high on Saturday, very sore breasts and surge of CM on the weekend and waking up hot in the middle of the night - all very much like last time. Got BFNs on Sunday and Monday and then a clear BFP on Tuesday at 12 DPO. But by the end of Tuesday, I had some cramping, breasts no longer sore and a drop in temps and then when I tested this morning, got a BFN and another BFN tonight. So I went from cautiously excited to extremely disappointed in the space of 24 hours.

I''m not sure whether it is better to know or not know about such an early miscarriage? I guess it gives me a basis for speaking to the doctor about getting some testing to see if there is an underlying cause.

Anyway, just needed to vent. Now I am going to pick myself up and focus on the positive - the big day on Saturday and our honeymoon. I tried on my wedding dress when I couldn''t sleep this morning to cheer myself up. Anyway, hopefully AF will make her appearance soon so we can try for a honeymoon baby. Third time lucky?

Dust to all for April.

 

[Loves Vintage]

Geri, I''m so sorry. I wish there was something magical that I could say to make things better, but I know there is not. The only silver lining, I suppose, is that you know you can get pregnant, and quite easily it seems. I agree that a call to the doctor is in order. Hopefully, they can help you get this sorted out. Maybe it is something simple like a hormonal issue that they could diagnose through blood work and correct with supplementation?

I''m so glad that you have your wonderful wedding to look forward to this weekend. It is certainly good to have something positive to look forward to and what could be more positive than your wedding! I hope you have a fabulous day and a lovely honeymoon.

Take care,
LV

 

[Lynnie]

Oh, Geri, I''m sorry to hear this...

I''m gonna ditto LV on the hormonal thing. One of my coworkers never had trouble getting pregnant... staying pregnant was her problem. They put her on hormones (I believe progesterone, but I''m not positive), and she carried her babe full term (she was 36 at the time).
In any event, lots of hugs to you. And you will have a wonderful big day in that GORGEOUS dress!

 

[dcgator]

Geri, I am so sorry to hear that (((HUGS))). I also hope that it''s just some sort of hormonal issue and something that can be corrected easily.

I am glad that you have so much to look forward to this weekend with the wedding and the upcoming honeymoon. Please do enjoy it and know that we will be here for you when you get back.

Best wishes for a beautiful wedding and enjoy Mexico with your soon-to-be Husband!

 

[blushingbride]

Hi Ladies - just wanted to chime to say that I completely understand where you are all coming from. I had a miscarriage last July at 8 weeks and it was honestly, the worst thing that DH and I had ever been through. It definitely brought us closer together and made our marriage even more stronger, as well as our desire to have children.

Not sure if you all know, but I'm almost 10 weeks along with twins!!! Am I nervous wreck?? YES!!! Do I panic everytime I go to the bathroom?? YES!!! My miscarriage took away any joy I felt the first time around when I was pregnant, but DH and I vowed to never give up.

I also wanted to let you know that I started a Pregnancy and TTC After a Loss thread (Link) a while back. You can read more about my story there and also stories from others as well.

I'll keep you all in my thoughts and prayers, but please know that you WILL get through this hard time! You made it past the first hurdle, you know you can pregnant! Don't ever give up or loose hope! It WILL happen!!!

 

[Bella_mezzo]

Geri-I am so sorry! Huge hugs for you, and I hope that you are able to grieve and process this, but that this wedding weekend is also a wonderfully joyeous time for you and your DH!

 

[geri]

Thank you all so much for your support. It really means a lot to me, especially since I know so many of you are also having troubles.

Blushing - I have read your story on the TTC thread and am so absolutely thrilled to hear your news! You give me so much faith that this will work out at some stage. Thanks for popping in and wishing you all the best for the rest of the pregnancy!

 

[noelwr]

geri - sorry I missed this. and there I was on the TTC thread saying how far everyone was in their cycle and who was in 2WW.

bleh.

in no way does it make what you''re experiencing now better, but it is good news that you are getting pregnant again.

I hope the ladies don''t get mad at me for saying this, but if you look at it in perspective, you at least are able to get pregnant without any assistance so you are already more ahead of the game than some others. granted, that doesn''t reverse what happened to you (nothing will), but I hope it helps you look positively to the future.

will it help next time to wait to test until the day AF is due? that way you won''t set yourself up for disappointment which you probably need a break from.

 

[ponder]

Geri,

You need to talk to your doctor and not wait for a another miscarriage. Do not listen to anyone who tells you that you need to wait for a third misarriage before you seek medical help.

I had 2 miscarriages in 2008. One in march and another in june. I never got to 5 weeks and my highest HCG was 11. Thankfully my regular OBGYN refered me to an RE immediately. I am so grateful that my OBGYN was very understanding and proactive. I know I would have changed drs if he would have told me that there was nothing to be done until I had 3 m/c.

After a whole lot of blood work and ultrasounds my RE pinpointed 2 problems that I had that could each result in early m/c. Both are very easily treated. I conceived my DD in october and everything went really well.

I went back to my RE in Jan to start TTC again and thank god I did. She found that my thyroid had almost completely crapped out on me and would have probably resulted in another m/c.

So far everything is going well. We should see a heartbeat at the ultrasound tomorrow. I''ll take a little dust of anyone has extra to throw my way.

 

[Loves Vintage]

Hi Ponder,

Congratulations!! How many weeks are you? Sending lots of dust for your ultrasound tomorrow!!!

If you don''t mind sharing, what were the two things that your RE identified as potentially contributing toward an early m/c?

 

[HOUMedGal]

Geri, just saw this....big hugs, my dear. I am so sorry.

Please do call your doctor and talk about it....there may be something relatively easy to fix that could help you next time around. I know in my case, my doc wants me to start taking progesterone as soon as I find out I''m preggo, since my progesterone was on the low side when I had my MC....maybe there is something similar in your case? I am glad you have the wedding and honeymoon to look forward to...and that gorgeous dress of yours!!

I will be thinking about you on your special day!!! I hope it is everything you have dreamed it would be.

 

[ponder]

Vintage,

I carry 2 copies of an MTHFR genetic mutation. This increases blood clotting, and a blood clot probably ended both pregnancies soon after implantation. I take an oral blood thinner and lots of folic acid.

My RE also suspected a luteal phase defect as I would have spotting about 4-5 before AF during my regular cycle. She started me on progesterone suppositories 4 days past ovulation.

I also do blood work twice a week for the first few weeks and she found that my estrogen was REALLY low. So I use estradiol patches.

Now that my thyroid crapped out, glad she caught that really early in this pregnancy, I take synthroid.

Any of the above conditions could result in m/c, but the clotting was probably the culprit. If everything goes ok, I think we will be 2 kids and then done.