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Trump Accuses Democrats Of Treason

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Yes, he actually did accuse Democrats of treason today. They were not sufficiently enthusiastic during The Great Leader's State of the Union address. Apparently only those who jumped up and down like jackrabbits (think Mike Pence and Paul Ryan) behaved with the correct decorum.

The man apparently never took a government or civics class. He doesn't realize that in the United States,
l'état, ce n'est pas lui.

"WASHINGTON — President Trump on Monday accused Democrats who did not clap during his State of the Union address of being un-American and even treasonous. His remarks came in a rambling, discursive speech at a factory in Ohio, during which he celebrated his revival of the American economy as the stock market plummeted by more than 1,000 points.

'Can we call that treason?' Mr. Trump said of the stone-faced reaction of Democrats to his speech. 'Why not? I mean, they certainly didn’t seem to love our country very much.'”

And with that, I rest my case that Donald Trump is an authoritarian threat to the United States Constitution who must be impeached.

AGBF

Link...https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/05/...ackage-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
 
I saw that too.
The rump defenders went on tv and said he was just playing to a crowd and not to think he was serious .

They said that about much of what he said in the campaign. He was serious , he is the petty, racist narcissist we all worried he was in the campaign.

It is difficult to have a president who cannot be trusted to - be taken at his word
Or to be kind
Or to have morals
Or to be honest.

I will never understand why republicans sold their souls to the proverbial devil and at all cost will follow him off any cliff.
It is mind boggling. He calls good things bad and bad things good and then gets angry when he doesnt get the adoring adulation he believes he should.
I hope the next president will be trustworthy and level. I hope he or she will be able to be believed when they speak and not have to have people say “ oh they didnt mean it like that “ and we come to find out later they did and that they Truly are as awful of a human as we have seen so many times with rump.
 
tkyasx78 said:
They said that about much of what he said in the campaign. He was serious , he is the petty, racist narcissist we all worried he was in the campaign.
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A racist who offered 1.8 mil illegals a path towards citizenship, and of course the Dems. resist. Now the dreamers know which party is truly on their side.
 
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If you watch the 2016 State of the Union Address, Paul Ryan sits behind President Obama and does not clap when the others are clapping. When the camera pans out into the audience, many of the Republican Party are not clapping as well.

The amnesia of the Republican party is wearing me thin. These people need to get real.

Oh wait! Trump was a Democrat back then! I guess he should be excused?
 
tkyasx78 said:
I saw that too.
The rump defenders went on tv and said he was just playing to a crowd and not to think he was serious .

They said that about much of what he said in the campaign. He was serious , he is the petty, racist narcissist we all worried he was in the campaign.

It is difficult to have a president who cannot be trusted to - be taken at his word
Or to be kind
Or to have morals
Or to be honest.

I will never understand why republicans sold their souls to the proverbial devil and at all cost will follow him off any cliff.
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But but but....whatabout Obama?? He was a liar about his citizenship and his faith and his knowledge and respect for our constitution. I mean how could he not be? He's BROWN. And has a non-American-sounding name. I'm sure we'll find evidence soon (as if we actually need it because we all KNOW it happened) that he cheated on his wife. With a climate scientist. A male climate scientist.

:rolleyes:

Just practicing my "whatabout" skills, since this thread already sports the presence of The Master.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

But the reason they sold their souls? Status needs, pure and simple. They don't want a bigger table. They don't want to be tolerant. Being tolerant is work. It upends the neatly hierarchical world that that they are deeply invested in, and that is easy for them to navigate mentally and conveniently has them at the top.

Of course, dressing it up in Christianity-colored lipstick is only working as a sop to make them feel better. The rest of "the world" is onto them and has been massively turned off. The young are running away from the breathtaking hypocrisy and hate, at a clip, away from using the term "evangelical", and in many cases, away from Christianity of any flavor, because simple changes to "branding" verbiage are no longer enough to get that pass.
 
Hi, there, k. I am actually bothering to log in so that I can "like" your above posting. That is a great honor to you. I do not like to bestir myself.

Deb :wavey:
 
AGBF said:
Hi, there, k. I am actually bothering to log in so that I can "like" your above posting. That is a great honor to you. I do not like to bestir myself.

Deb :wavey:
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I am deeply DEEPLY honored that you felt compelled by my words, to get off your electronic posterior and "LIKE" my contribution. Sniff. :geek2:
 
ksinger said:
I am deeply DEEPLY honored that you felt compelled by my words, to get off your electronic posterior and "LIKE" my contribution. Sniff. :geek2:
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It feels good to be appreciated. :saint:
 
A couple of thoughts.

I don't like Trump any more than most of the rest of you. Still, I think the Congressional Democrats would have been wise to have learned a lesson or two from past SOTU's, and applaud when Trump mentioned good news during the State of the Union Address - even if inwardly, it meant holding their noses. I mean, when someone says "Unemployment among Blacks and Hispanics is the lowest its ever been," - you don't say "but Obama...," you don't ask "what years are you comparing," you hail it as good news and move on.

Second, I think we know by now that Trump does a lot of this stuff to rile and raise money from his supporters. I take some solace in the fact that his base is not growing.

And finally, I think we also know that part of the motivation for stupid statements like this is to get attention and to divert attention from the real news of the day/week, i.e., that the release of the Nunes memo fizzled and Republicans are not lining up behind the President on that issue, and the Mueller investigation continues to move forward.

I'd like to see the Dems come up with a unified strategy for addressing these daily dumb and inflammatory statements without allowing them to detract from the real issues of the day. Something that's dignified and that calls out the egregiousness of Trump's tweets, claim, whatever... but without descending into its own little cesspool of hyperbole. To paraphrase Michelle Obama - they should figure out an effective way to "go high."

And for the record, no I'm not saying the concerns over the effect Trump's actions are having on our government and democracy are hyperbole. I am saying that the Dems need to be more strategic in how they deal with Trump and all he's unleashed.

BTW some good news this morning from California:
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/3...ng-down-two-vulnerable-california-republicans
 
VRBeauty said:
I am saying that the Dems need to be more strategic in how they deal with Trump and all he's unleashed.
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They are still mired in the 7 stages of grieving, unable to reconcile themselves to their defeat and lacking, at least for the interim, new talent willing to clean up the mess. They've become the Impotent Party which, I hope, is a temporary malady.
 
He deserves a good clap:))
 
:Up_to_something::twisted:
 
PUL-EEEZEE....

Excuse me. My lunch is coming back up.
 
VRBeauty said:
A couple of thoughts.

I don't like Trump any more than most of the rest of you. Still, I think the Congressional Democrats would have been wise to have learned a lesson or two from past SOTU's, and applaud when Trump mentioned good news during the State of the Union Address - even if inwardly, it meant holding their noses. I mean, when someone says "Unemployment among Blacks and Hispanics is the lowest its ever been," - you don't say "but Obama...," you don't ask "what years are you comparing," you hail it as good news and move on.
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Exactly!, One shouldn't expect the Dems to applaud Trump's policies, but all members of congress should stand up and applaud the civilians and military guests..:clap:. As I said many times here...any good news for our country = bad news for the Dems.
 
ksinger said:
But but but....whatabout Obama??

:rolleyes:

Just practicing my "whatabout" skills.
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Lol what about Obama . Can we try just for a minute to imagine what would have happened if in 2009 /10 when President Obama had just finished his first year in office — what if — he had historically low approval ratings & amid stock market volitality and a perpetual looming government shutdown and IF obama was head deep in the midst of numerous scandals ( from paying off an adulterous **** star affair to an unregistered charity he stole from and he had to close down plus many more), If he called various nations crapholes, and IF he was being investigated by the FBI for obstruction of justice, and many other things by a special prosecutor, & being investigated by Congress and the senate —

What if THEN Obama decided to ORDER the Pentagon to stage an unnecessary elaborate military parade for him. ( while of course saying it was for national pride) right after saying those who dont clap for him when he announces good news are commiting treason.

:rolleyes2:I am sure the republicans - if it was reversed - would have had a great sense of humor about the whole thing and said hey obama we know you dont mean any harm we can take a joke — lets just forget everything and call it good. :rolleyes2:
 
I'm kinda back to thinking that perhaps Trump is actually smart. It's not the first time he's redefined words and these redefinitions mean a downplaying of seriousness and consequences later. By redefining treason as not clapping if he's found to have colluded with a hostile territory during the election, even if that's treason, that's now on par with not clapping during a speech and we've all done that, right? It's not so different from Newspeak in 1984 in many ways. And that is truly scary.
 
I feel leery about this military parade. He’s too predictable. Parades such as a these are only held when war is starting or ending.
 
House Cat said:
I feel leery about this military parade.
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Senator Dick Durbin on "Morning Joe" put it clearly: it is a phenomenal waste of money on a parade to entertain President Trump, money that could be spent on improving the lives of the military; the lives of military families; and/or cutting the waiting time at the lines of VA hospitals.

AGBF
 
AGBF said:
Senator Dick Durbin on "Morning Joe" put it clearly: it is a phenomenal waste of money on a parade to entertain President Trump, money that could be spent on improving the lives of the military; the lives of military families; and/or cutting the waiting time at the lines of VA hospitals.

AGBF
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I want to stand at the top of a mountain and begin ranting now. I think it’s time.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thesal...rvice-members-struggle-to-feed-their-families

This parade money really could do a lot of good elsewhere. When my husband was active duty he said there were many Marines that were on food stamps. It looks like nothing has changed in 20 years.
 
What a colossal waste of money that could be put to better use, not to mention the fascist undertones of the thing. Way to go, Cadet Bonespurs.
 
When I heard the news of the parade yesterday my first thought was about giving that parade money to the military families who are trying to support their families while their husbands and wives are doing their jobs protecting our country. Surely this money would be much better spent on our lower paid military families than on a parade to stroke Trump’s ego.

I too am worried about what is looming. On January 30th, Trump made a remark that it would be hard to unite this country without a major event. He would have no problem starting a war.

The republican’s in office who won’t stand up against this president have no integrity.
 
 
Matata quoted, "I put some Bee Gees music over North Korean marching".... All I can say, Matata, is I wish you hadn't posted that. It makes me think that I might enjoy Trump's parade if it had the right kind of music. I actually enjoyed the North Koreans marching to the Bee Gees.

Deb ;))
 
As I posted in the other thread yesterday, a parade is an idiotic waste of money and military staff time.
 
AGBF said:
All I can say, Matata, is I wish you hadn't posted that. It makes me think that I might enjoy Trump's parade if it had the right kind of music.
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I found the video very funny, especially the choice of song "Stayin' Alive". Delicious irony. The only types of songs I can image appropriate for a trump parade are either funeral dirges or lyrics denoting doom and gloom. How about "Petrified" by Taboo?

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hI,

VRbeauty----Thank you for your post. I agree with you. The News, MSNBC is getting overbroad in their criticism of everything trump does. It drowns out anything logical to discuss, and democrats do need a different approach to the mess we are in. Your example of the clapping episode is right on.

Rhea-- good post. I think you are on to something important. Trump redefines things, and we all get caught up in change in definitions. Its why commercials are repeated in the same 2 minute commercials. Repetition works.

Annette
 
redwood66 said:
As I posted in the other thread yesterday, a parade is an idiotic waste of money and military staff time.
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Yup! , just waste of money...:wall:
 
Too funny @Matata

Did anyone happen to see the poster from the women’s march that was from the Pink Floyd Song? A woman was holding a sign that read

All and All
You’re Just Another Prick
With NO Wall
 
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