Top Notch Custom Setting designers?

[JTOUPS1214]

I don't understand why you are going with BGD for the setting, not WF, given that you had a good experience buying the diamond from WF and given that they basically do exactly the same sort of work with the the same results at the same pricepoints?

Nothing against BGD - but it's so much easier and *safer* and more productive to keep it all in the family. If you buy both diamond and setting from the same vendor you don't have to worry about liability issues should something happen/insurance for setting the loose stone, and the fact of the matter is that any vendor must naturally be more concerned about a full order of diamond plus setting than one for just a setting, especially if that vendor also sells diamonds and does not specialize in high-end (read: pricey) settings...


I have worked with both WF and BGD. And Canera and DBL for that matter. WF and DBL get my repeat business.

I'm actually in contact with WF as of today. They really were extremely helpful in the diamond buying process. I just didn't know if they did great custom setting work. I know there are certain company's that specialize in settings, just like there are some that specialize in diamonds. I know WF is great with diamonds! Has anyone have any experience with getting them to make a custom setting?

 

[yssie]

I don't understand why you are going with BGD for the setting, not WF, given that you had a good experience buying the diamond from WF and given that they basically do exactly the same sort of work with the the same results at the same pricepoints?

Nothing against BGD - but it's so much easier and *safer* and more productive to keep it all in the family. If you buy both diamond and setting from the same vendor you don't have to worry about liability issues should something happen/insurance for setting the loose stone, and the fact of the matter is that any vendor must naturally be more concerned about a full order of diamond plus setting than one for just a setting, especially if that vendor also sells diamonds and does not specialize in high-end (read: pricey) settings...


I have worked with both WF and BGD. And Canera and DBL for that matter. WF and DBL get my repeat business.

I'm actually in contact with WF as of today. They really were extremely helpful in the diamond buying process. I just didn't know if they did great custom setting work. I know there are certain company's that specialize in settings, just like there are some that specialize in diamonds. I know WF is great with diamonds! Has anyone have any experience with getting them to make a custom setting?

WF and BGD are essentially identical in terms of setting design process, manufacturing, finishing, pricing... quality is identical as well, both do very nice ring work (I had BGD make a (custom) ring for my MIL and WF made my (custom) ring(s)). You may find that you *click* better with one vendor or the other - Gypsy has had very good experiences with BGD, I with WF.

You can find lots of examples of both WF and BGD custom work if you do some PS searches. My thread here , but it is not of the style you're looking for so you'd be better served with a search I think

 

[diamondseeker2006]

There is not much that is truly one of a kind. In fact, when we see custom designs done by many of the ring makers, you later see the piece offered in their regular stock settings. So don't let the idea of one of a kind override your desire to get her something she would love because even if it starts out somewhat original, it probably won't continue to be! She apparently loved the Michael B and would have liked that. And Tacori and Verragio are very fine brands and due to the cost, you don't see them on everybody. And in fact, not many people have a diamond the quality you bought, either.

 

[yssie]

There is not much that is truly one of a kind. In fact, when we see custom designs done by many of the ring makers, you later see the piece offered in their regular stock settings. So don't let the idea of one of a kind override your desire to get her something she would love because even if it starts out somewhat original, it probably won't continue to be! She apparently loved the Michael B and would have liked that. And Tacori and Verragio are very fine brands and due to the cost, you don't see them on everybody. And in fact, not many people have a diamond the quality you bought, either.

Well, that, ultimately. Custom is a stressful, uncertain process even when you do have a CAD... so if all you want is to "make it your own", but you're otherwise happy with the overall style and details of aesthetic of an existing piece, I STRONGLY recommend you take DS' advice. You could have them burnish some stones into the interior of the shank, or add engraving/milgraining, or a bit of extra pave somewhere...

 

[JTOUPS1214]

I guess you are both right....custom does seem to be a headache ! As long as I can take an existing ring (like the Verragio) and give it my own little "add", I think she and I will both be happy!

I REALLY like the Verragio 7050, but maybe one of you could answer this question.

Here is the Main link on the Verragio site: (1/2 eternity only)
http://www.verragio.com/Verragio-Engagement-Rings/Insignia-Engagement-Rings/INSIGNIA-7050
Here is a link I found on what looks like a customized Verragio setting. (3/4 or full eternity -I like this one more!!)
http://verragio.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/engagement-rings-insignia-7050-custom-verragio.jpg

I see that I can not contact Verragio directly, so how can I find out more information about the ring in the second link?

 

[Amys Bling]

I woul setting you want- as others said going custom trying to make something unique but similar to something else can be stressful. Maybe save the custom work for her wedding band...

 

[JTOUPS1214]

I should have just went with my first instinct and buy the Tacori 2578! Darn you diamondseeker for talking me out of it, haha (just messing)

 

[mrssalvo]

I guess you are both right....custom does seem to be a headache ! As long as I can take an existing ring (like the Verragio) and give it my own little "add", I think she and I will both be happy!

I REALLY like the Verragio 7050, but maybe one of you could answer this question.

Here is the Main link on the Verragio site: (1/2 eternity only)
http://www.verragio.com/Verragio-Engagement-Rings/Insignia-Engagement-Rings/INSIGNIA-7050
Here is a link I found on what looks like a customized Verragio setting. (3/4 or full eternity -I like this one more!!)
http://verragio.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/engagement-rings-insignia-7050-custom-verragio.jpg

I see that I can not contact Verragio directly, so how can I find out more information about the ring in the second link?

Is there a Verragio retailer in your area? If so, you can go through them, if not Goodoldgold ( a pricescope vendor) carries the line and you can go through them. Many of wonderful experiences with Jon and his team there. If you do find someone local, do be sure they send your diamond to Verragio to be set and not let someone local set it. We've seen many times where designer settings get messed up in the setting process when the actual designer doesn't do it. Plus, you'll want them to have the stone so the setting fits perfectly!!

 

[JTOUPS1214]

I guess you are both right....custom does seem to be a headache ! As long as I can take an existing ring (like the Verragio) and give it my own little "add", I think she and I will both be happy!

I REALLY like the Verragio 7050, but maybe one of you could answer this question.

Here is the Main link on the Verragio site: (1/2 eternity only)
http://www.verragio.com/Verragio-Engagement-Rings/Insignia-Engagement-Rings/INSIGNIA-7050
Here is a link I found on what looks like a customized Verragio setting. (3/4 or full eternity -I like this one more!!)
http://verragio.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/engagement-rings-insignia-7050-custom-verragio.jpg

I see that I can not contact Verragio directly, so how can I find out more information about the ring in the second link?

Is there a Verragio retailer in your area? If so, you can go through them, if not Goodoldgold ( a pricescope vendor) carries the line and you can go through them. Many of wonderful experiences with Jon and his team there. If you do find someone local, do be sure they send your diamond to Verragio to be set and not let someone local set it. We've seen many times where designer settings get messed up in the setting process when the actual designer doesn't do it. Plus, you'll want them to have the stone so the setting fits perfectly!!

There is only 1 local retailer, about 1 hour away.
I'm in contact with Verragio over email right now, but they claim they do not have any more pictures or info on that custom design (which I find hard to believe)
They just say, contact a retailer....and they can help. But if anyone would have pictures, drawings, info, etc...wouldn't it be the Verragio factory?

 

[mrssalvo]

Many designers just don't deal directly with the public. Just email or call Goodoldgold and they will be able to help you

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Exactly, they don't deal with the customers, as MrsS said. You have to go through a retailer. I think it would be nice to make it 3/4 but not full because future sizing might be a major pain and expense. Plus the pave would get destroyed on the palm side of her hand.

Listen, I love the Tacori rings! I'd choose the Tacori for myself, but the Verragio is a little more contemporary like the Michael B. You choose what you think she would like best! But I really, really do think you'll be making a wise decision to go with a designer setting and add something that will make it yours, if you want.

 

[JTOUPS1214]

Exactly, they don't deal with the customers, as MrsS said. You have to go through a retailer. I think it would be nice to make it 3/4 but not full because future sizing might be a major pain and expense. Plus the pave would get destroyed on the palm side of her hand.

Listen, I love the Tacori rings! I'd choose the Tacori for myself, but the Verragio is a little more contemporary like the Michael B. You choose what you think she would like best! But I really, really do think you'll be making a wise decision to go with a designer setting and add something that will make it yours, if you want.

I'm just probably being too over-picky. I know she will like whatever, but knowing myself....I try too hard to make sure everything is perfect the first time. Especially when spending that amount of money. It took me probably 3-4 months just to find a diamond, but being picky paid off!

I know that Michael B ring is full eternity, that's why I figured she would prefer that type. I love the way full eternity looks, but I also see the issues we might have (with losing stones) - So that's a tough decision!

I'm really hoping it's not an arm & leg for that custom Verragio, because I'm really loving it!

 

[mrssalvo]

I wouldn't go full eternity on an e-ring. No one is going to see the bottom and it's not going to spin like a diamond band might. Also, you are very limited in sizing down the road and a woman's finger size often does change as they get older, have babies, etc.

If you want to do a matching wedding band full eternity then I wouldn't talk you out of it. But, there is a possibility that her finger size will change and you'll have to get another one.

 

[JTOUPS1214]

I do see your point about the sizing! I know that could be a real issue down the road.

What are your thoughts on White-Flash doing a custom design that is similar to the Veraggio I like? I've talked to them today and they seem like it's not a problem. Obviously I wouldn't use the little trademark veraggio "flower" on the side, but it would be pretty close.

Plus I can probably save close to $2K! Do you still believe I would get a quality setting made? They are also the one's that sold me the diamond, so that does help in the setting process!

 

[mrssalvo]

Well, I'm not sure your comparing Apple's to Apples' if you compare Verragio to WF. However, WF make's a good product so if budget is an issue than WF could be a good choice. Any time you go custom there is more unknowns. I personally like to be able to see settings in person first so going custom on an e-ring is difficult for me. However, many of the gals here have done and have had wonderful results. I'd see if WF has made something similar that they can show you pictures of if you go with them. If budget isn't an issue then I think going with Verragio or Tacori would be the way I'd go, but again, that is just my .02

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Ditto...if the budget allows, go with the designer setting. If not, then don't worry about it. I know you raised your budget for the stone and that was a good choice.

 

[JTOUPS1214]

Great advice!
Well I have both WF and Verragio working on pricing and details, so I will be able to compare. I guess if the difference is thousands, obviously I will have to go WF.
Normal pricing for the Verragio in platinum in 1/2 eternity is $4K, so I'm curious to see what 3/4 and full eternity come out to be. Hopefully they can keep it around 5K!

 

[distracts]

Remember that if you go with a full eternity, it cannot be resized. Times she might want her ring resized include during pregnancy and as she ages, if her fingers change size. As well, while full eternity looks cool when you're not wearing it... it looks basically the same when you ARE wearing it. My e-ring is half eternity and it doesn't bother me one bit. I like that I don't have to worry about steering wheels, door knobs, etc damaging my setting if I grip too hard. Like everyone else says, I'd be more inclined to do a full eternity wedding band, but half eternity e-ring.

 

[winternight]

You'll have to have some differences in design if you go with WF so it isn't a flagrant copy. I agree with others that if its in budget just have the piece that is made instead of going custom.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Great advice!
Well I have both WF and Verragio working on pricing and details, so I will be able to compare. I guess if the difference is thousands, obviously I will have to go WF.
Normal pricing for the Verragio in platinum in 1/2 eternity is $4K, so I'm curious to see what 3/4 and full eternity come out to be. Hopefully they can keep it around 5K!

Super! I will be interested in the quotes. Naturally Verragio will be more, but you are getting a designer piece that they are experts at making.

I hate it but now every time I come across a braided setting, I think of you! This one is contemporary and by another higher end designer. The wg price makes me think the platinum price might not be bad. Plus with this one, you can wear a matching thin straight diamond band.:

http://www.ross-simons.com/products/487661.html

 

[JTOUPS1214]

Well I finally asked her best friends advice on some of the rings I've been interested in!
(only because they looked at rings together)

She said hands down, that my gf would pick the Tacori 2578 (go figure!!)
My first pick! So now I just need to figure out 1/2 or full eternity.

Which I know I should go half from all the comments

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Great! That is a gorgeous ring! There's no way she won't love it! I am glad you asked her friend!

Please go half and have the other half engraved. That will look MUCH better than shiny metal on the other half. That will even look good on the wedding band, too, and allow both to be sized in the future. I am sure they will do the engraving because I asked a long time ago.

 

[JTOUPS1214]

Do you mean on the inside or outside of the band?

And by engraving, you mean words or a design?

 

[CharmyPoo]

I think the custom process should be pretty painless and it was for me on some occasions.

Not sure why some people are making excuses for BGD. A consumer really shouldn't have to demand a specific sales person to get good service or responses to their email. I think BGD really needs to get their act together in terms of responsiveness and customer service. They have beautiful diamonds and settings but with some of the customer service reps are lacking.

I think ERD does awesome CAD/CAST work. I also had good experiences with WF.

 

[JTOUPS1214]

I think the custom process should be pretty painless and it was for me on some occasions.

Not sure why some people are making excuses for BGD. A consumer really shouldn't have to demand a specific sales person to get good service or responses to their email. I think BGD really needs to get their act together in terms of responsiveness and customer service. They have beautiful diamonds and settings but with some of the customer service reps are lacking.

I think ERD does awesome CAD/CAST work. I also had good experiences with WF.

Agreed! Amen

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I mean an engaved design on the platinum that will make it more of a seamless transition from the pave part to the engraved part. Let me see if I can find an example.

Here is engraving on a shank. This is not a pave ring, but after the pave stops you'd still have the milgrain and this engraving filling in the areas that would have had the diamonds. It is just much more subtle and pretty than switching to a shiny metal area.

http://www.tacori.com/Engagement-Rings#/HT2199

http://www.tacori.com/Engagement-Rings#/HT2202

Just remember, that ring you are choosing is one of the fragile ones, and she just needs to know that at the outset. This is another reason to definitely go with half diamonds to have a more solid shank on the bottom half.

 

[mrssalvo]

I'm so glad you talked to the friend. I think she is going to really love the Tacori. Do make sure though that she knows it's not a 24/7 type of ring where she can wear it doing yard work or lifting weights at the gym. Many folks don't understand that and end up damaging their ring. I know this first hand b/c although my original e-ring was a simple solitaire, I never took it off, no matter what I was doing and ended up damaging my diamond. Anyway, doing a half eternity and then the engraving will really look beautiful!!

 

[JTOUPS1214]

I'm really liking the idea of 1/2 plus engraving! I think that could look really nice!
Is that considered "custom" and lots of extra cost?

 

[mrssalvo]

I'm not super familiar with Tacori's policies but I don't think engraving would add to much to the cost at all.

 

[JTOUPS1214]

And even if there is custom engraving, I can still have it resized?

Let me make sure I'm clear on things....I can do the tacori 2578 (1/2 eternity), and on the BOTTOM part of the ring I can do this custom engraving? (like on the links u sent, diamondseeker)