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Ok, so I''ve decided to go with a Tiffany''s replica knife edge ring, and I''m wanting to get a diamond size in the 0.5 carat range (right under 0.5 seems to be SO much cheaper).

These are the three settings I''m considering:

James Allen
Excel
Whiteflash

Since I''m getting a smaller stone (and it looks like I''m stuck with the six prong option), I definitely want to get a setting that is going to be customized to the smaller size of the diamond. It seems like the general idea here is that the Excel settings are the daintiest/most customized solution.

Any advice/tips on this style of setting with a diamond of this size?
 
Settings are made in proportion to the size of the stone, so you don''t have to worry about that. Have you asked any of these jewelers if they could do these in a 4 prong instead? If not, I would.
 
My only caution about going to 4 prongs is that it would no longer be a Tiffany replica since all their round solitaire settings are 6 prong. I know Tiffany sells rings with stones smaller than .5 cts., so they do set them in 6 prongs. They''d just make a more delicate head for a smaller stone. I would choose WhiteFlash or Excel for sure. And you could try Brian Gavin as well. What is your budget for a stone?
 
Hi, ckg,
I have always liked the James Allen version of the Tiffany, and it seems to be a bit more petite at 2 mm than the Whiteflash setting which is 2.5 mm tapering to 2 mm. I couldn't find the measurements on the other setting you referenced.

If you prefer four prongs to six, you could consider the Vatche Royal Empress which is only 2 mm. However, it is more modern in styling and the band is rounded, not knife edge. Here is a link to a post with some pictures of the Royal Empress. Vatche royal empress

I have a .53 diamond and it was challenging to find a setting that wouldn't overwhelm it; I chose the Royal Empress, but I also looked at the JA Tiffany and a low-set Tiffany style Wink from High Performance Diamonds has on his site Wink's solitaires page
It's number #WE1003 on that page.

ETA: The other posters are correct in that the setting's head will be scaled down to match the size of your stone.
 
Date: 6/13/2009 9:23:33 AM
Author: diamondseeker2006
My only caution about going to 4 prongs is that it would no longer be a Tiffany replica since all their round solitaire settings are 6 prong. I know Tiffany sells rings with stones smaller than .5 cts., so they do set them in 6 prongs. They''d just make a more delicate head for a smaller stone. I would choose WhiteFlash or Excel for sure. And you could try Brian Gavin as well. What is your budget for a stone?
Ditto.
 
I thought about the four-prong route, but I''m afraid that will change up the look of the setting too much, and haven''t really found a four-prong setting that I really like.

So should I be leaning toward Excel or Whiteflash? Are they going to be far more friendly when it comes to trimming down the setting? I really do like and feel the most comfortable with the James Allen one. However, I''m just nervous that the setting is going to look awkward with a stone of that size.

My budget is around the $2000-$2500 range, which has seemed very doable and reasonable for what I''m looking at.

How does one contact Brian Gavin? Through Whiteflash? If so, does anyone know if using him would be in the realm of my budget? Also, I suppose I''m open to looking at a four-prong knife edge setting if anyone has any exceptional recommendations.
 
Date: 6/13/2009 11:02:43 AM
Author: ckg92
I thought about the four-prong route, but I''m afraid that will change up the look of the setting too much, and haven''t really found a four-prong setting that I really like.

So should I be leaning toward Excel or Whiteflash? Are they going to be far more friendly when it comes to trimming down the setting? I really do like and feel the most comfortable with the James Allen one. However, I''m just nervous that the setting is going to look awkward with a stone of that size.

My budget is around the $2000-$2500 range, which has seemed very doable and reasonable for what I''m looking at.

How does one contact Brian Gavin? Through Whiteflash? If so, does anyone know if using him would be in the realm of my budget? Also, I suppose I''m open to looking at a four-prong knife edge setting if anyone has any exceptional recommendations.



Date: 6/13/2009 9:18:21 AM
Author: Ellen
Settings are made in proportion to the size of the stone, so you don''t have to worry about that. Have you asked any of these jewelers if they could do these in a 4 prong instead? If not, I would.

Date: 6/13/2009 9:23:33 AM
Author: diamondseeker2006
My only caution about going to 4 prongs is that it would no longer be a Tiffany replica since all their round solitaire settings are 6 prong. I know Tiffany sells rings with stones smaller than .5 cts., so they do set them in 6 prongs. They''d just make a more delicate head for a smaller stone. I would choose WhiteFlash or Excel for sure. And you could try Brian Gavin as well. What is your budget for a stone?
This question has been answered, it is not a problem. Settings are made in relation to the stone size.

There is nothing "wrong" with the size of your stone. My first ring had a much smaller stone. Yours is fine.
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Here is the link to BGD.

http://www.brianthecutter.com/


I would suggest talking to the vendors you''re interested in, and go with whoever you feel most comfortable with.
 
Alright, alright :)

For some reason, I just got the impression that some of the settings were stock settings that they just drop the stone into and fasten the prongs over. If so, then I am leaning toward the James Allen or Excel Route still.

Thanks!
 
All of the vendors recommended in this post will make sure the ring head is the right proportion to your stone. In addition, these vendors will recommend other settings to you if they think the setting you''re looking at will not work with the stone you ultimately choose.

Now for the fun part! Your budget of $2000 - $2500 should get you an ideal cut diamond in the appox. .50 carat range and a setting. Are you including the wedding band in this price range or is that separate?

Also, does your future fiance have a preference on clarity and color? If you are flexible on those two parameters, your money will go a long way and you will have a lot more choice in carat size.
 
My budget does NOT actually include the wedding band, which is fine cause that will be purchased later. However, I want to make sure I choose a vendor that has a decent knife edge wedding band that will (hopefully) sit flush with the ring.

She doesn't really have a preference on clarity and color, as long as it's eye-clean. We went to some B&M's just to see how certain size stones looked on her finger, and I was suprised that most of their rings were very low in term of cut and color (however they still "looked" good to me). She is really comfortable and likes the .5 carat range. I could go a little bigger probably, but she definitely didn't like the size/feel of the .75 carat.

At this point, so I can purchase sooner, I want to definitely get around a 0.5 carat ideal cut diamond that is "eye-clean" (which I plan to call/talk to the vendor). At this point I've been consider colors G and up, and SI1 (if i can talk to the vendor) and VS2's.

EDIT: Excel looks like they do have a knife-edge band made to match their tiffany replica, and it really seems like they do the best job and at least claim to customize the ring setting to the diamond. I'm starting to lean more toward them rather than JA....eek..getting excited!!
 
Date: 6/13/2009 11:23:20 AM
Author: ckg92
Alright, alright :)

For some reason, I just got the impression that some of the settings were stock settings that they just drop the stone into and fasten the prongs over. If so, then I am leaning toward the James Allen or Excel Route still.

Thanks!
I do not have reason to think that the James Allen ring would be custom made to fit your stone as I haven''t seen evidence of that on here. I think it may come in a stock size for a .5 diamond. I''d feel better about WF, Excel, and Brain Gavin. We''ve seen plenty of Tiffany settings from WF and Excel, and BG can do anything they did at WF.
 
Whiteflash has a good selection of stones in the .50 - .60 range. Here's the link to one I considered (before I bought my .53 Infinity).

.563 H VS2

Do a search on the Show me the Ring forum and you will see many, many lovely Whiteflash settings, though you can't go wrong with their classic knife edge Tiffany! Based on DS's previous post, you should be able to afford this setting in platinum and get a nice-sized, ideal cut diamond, too.

ETA: The stone I linked to is a little bigger than the one in DS's link. The stone in DS's post is a Whiteflash ACA -- are you familiar with that term? It is Whiteflash's highest quality diamond.
 
I definitely like the diamond selection better at Whiteflash..but my only hesitation is other users on this forum who''ve bought that same exact setting, only to go back and trade it in for the Excel setting. The excel site stresses that customization factor and "perfect" fit. Maybe I should get on the phone with someone from Whiteflash...
 
Yes, call Whiteflash and ask them how their settings work with diff. size diamonds. I have a feeling they will set your mind at ease!

It is easier to work with one vendor on your diamond and setting. However, I believe some vendors will set stones set to them (for an additional charge)...I''m not for sure on this, though -- other Pricecopers will know more about this option than I do.
 
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