Thoughts on this ruby please

[rparker1998]

Tan is holding this ruby for me, and has suggested a cert which I will consider. I would also like to see what ya'all think.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 2761.l1259

He states it has NO treatements of any type.

ETA: The video does not show the stone as dark as this photo and I am not sure if you can see the video since he ended the auction. Here is the photo - but as I said the video is showing it as a very nice pink, and vibrant.

 

[T L]

Your link isn't working, but I would call that a pink sapphire, not a ruby. I would make the sale contingent upon a gem memo stating "no treatment." It will cost you extra, but it's worth it for peace of mind, and a pink sapphire is worth far more untreated than heated or worse, diffused.

 

[rparker1998]

Thanks TL. I was thinking it did look a little more like a sapphire than a ruby.

Noob question: How or what would be the best way to make the sale contingent and what would it cost me to do the cert through aigs? (apx?)

 

[T L]

Thanks TL. I was thinking it did look a little more like a sapphire than a ruby.

Noob question: How or what would be the best way to make the sale contingent and what would it cost me to do the cert through aigs? (apx?)

Well, if it's not as Tan advertised, unheated, he should refund you your money for the stone and the memo. Tell him that. He's offered to do that for clients before, and I find that honest business.

Can you fix the link for the URL?

 

[rparker1998]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270620134762

So if it tests true, then I pay for everything, if it tests false to his claims, he should refund all fees?

 

[T L]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270620134762

So if it tests true, then I pay for everything, if it tests false to his claims, he should refund all fees?

Yes, but double check with him. As it is only $77, it might not be worth paying for a $40 memo though. Now that I can see the link, I see the stone better. It is definitely not a ruby .

 

[chictomato]

Hi there! I came across this stone before. Its quite petite and pretty. The color does not appear to be anywhere close to a ruby from the pictures. But well, who knows it might be IRL! Anyway, its a good buy be it a Sapphire or Ruby I will purchase it to see it and have it return should it not fits the bill.

 

[LD]

I'm really surprised that this is being sold as a Ruby because, like others, I'd say it's a sapphire. I see purple/pinks not reds. It's a pretty gem and a good price but I wouldn't bother getting it certified, purely because of it's size and the cost.

 

[rparker1998]

hmm, if I do a cert; I have a question.

Both Sapphires and Ruby's are Corrundum correct? SO how would I know if it's classified as a pink sapphire or ruby?

 

[T L]

hmm, if I do a cert; I have a question.

Both Sapphires and Ruby's are Corrundum correct? SO how would I know if it's classified as a pink sapphire or ruby?

No, not necessarily. I think AIGS and GIT use the marketing name vs. the mineral name. For example, you may see "pink sapphire" on your memo instead of "pink corundum." There's no way that would be deemed a ruby by the labs. If it came back as a ruby, I would be shocked.

 

[rparker1998]

I don't mind paying for the cert; however, I would like to make sure that if I purchase the stone and it tests out as a sapphire, that I'm getting an equal or better than equal value to the ruby for what I'm paying with the knowledge that Ruby's are usually more expensive.

Another words:

Ruby for this color, cut and size is equal to or better than cost of 77

sapphire for this color, cut and size is equal to or better than the cost of 77

Will it be win win no matter how it tests?

 

[serenitydiamonds]

hmm, if I do a cert; I have a question.

Both Sapphires and Ruby's are Corrundum correct? SO how would I know if it's classified as a pink sapphire or ruby?

A ruby is a fully saturated red Corrundum. If it contains any other hues than red it is a Sapphire, and there is no such gem as a pink Ruby. This gemstone would not be qualified as a ruby based on it's image.

--Joshua

 

[T L]

I don't mind paying for the cert; however, I would like to make sure that if I purchase the stone and it tests out as a sapphire, that I'm getting an equal or better than equal value to the ruby for what I'm paying with the knowledge that Ruby's are usually more expensive.

Another words:

Ruby for this color, cut and size is equal to or better than cost of 77

sapphire for this color, cut and size is equal to or better than the cost of 77

Will it be win win no matter how it tests?

A natural untreated or traditionally heat treated ruby of nice red color of that size will be significantly more than 77. Origin, hue, saturation, clarity, tone, all come into play, but generally speaking, it would be more expensive.

To your second point.
Well, if a sapphire is better color than that gem and also unheated, it will cost more.

I think $77 is a very good price on that gem, so I think it will be win win unless you dread the color when you get it in person. However, you don't have much to lose. You could save up your money by not buying this gem, and wait and get a better one, or a spinel of similar color (untreated spinels are a better value than corundum as far as I'm concerned - JMO).