Thoughts on this one?

[toxicant]

Hi all, first time here and I need to decide today on a diamond I found. Could you folks take a look at the EGL on it and perhaps give me a little insight. I also have a question about the EGL, at the bottom there is a place for special comment and there is a number there, any idea what that means. Also, what do you think it is worth?

http://66.134.214.118/oresults/SearchPage2.php?st_num=60220601D

Thank you all

Ron

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 11/18/2008 9:18:30 AM
Author:toxicant
Hi all, first time here and I need to decide today on a diamond I found. Could you folks take a look at the EGL on it and perhaps give me a little insight. I also have a question about the EGL, at the bottom there is a place for special comment and there is a number there, any idea what that means. Also, what do you think it is worth?

http://66.134.214.118/oresults/SearchPage2.php?st_num=60220601D

Thank you all

Ron

Welcome Ron,

I would pass on this one, it is cut which makes a diamond beautiful and looking at the proportions this diamond is unlikely to perform well, very basically it is what we call a steep deep with the angles and it could leak light and not perform as it should. If you are new to this then maybe reading up on the tutorial might be helpful, the first page below discusses how the grading labs rank, then you can see the other topics to the left.

http://diamonds.pricescope.com/grading.asp

 

[neatfreak]

Agreed...to add on to what Lorelei said, you really want a diamond that is cut superbly, as that is the stone that will return the most light and sparkle the most. I suggest you do some more reading before jumping into a purchase.

 

[stone-cold11]

Pass on this one.

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 11/18/2008 9:22:57 AM
Author: neatfreak
Agreed...to add on to what Lorelei said, you really want a diamond that is cut superbly, as that is the stone that will return the most light and sparkle the most. I suggest you do some more reading before jumping into a purchase.

ditto

 

[toxicant]

So perhaps it might not be the best diamond but what do you think it is worth? This would be used as a pendant not in a ring. And any thoughs on the comment at the bottom of the EGL

Thanks,

Ron

 

[strmrdr]

Its not a good pendant stone either...
It is a steep deep.
This is a virtual model of the base numbers and is the best it could be it could be far worse.

 

[Lorelei]

Way kewl stormy!!!

Ron, I am sorry I don''t know what those particular numbers mean on the report. I would look for some other diamonds, if you like give us an idea of budget and we could maybe find you some examples?

 

[stone-cold11]

Pricescope the stone, EGL cert of a better cut stone gives $9k. So you should probably not be paying more than that.http://www.abazias.com/builder/builder.asp?view=diamondsearch&flag=ps&selectedDiamond=50975899

 

[toxicant]

So 8200 is just an ok deal not a great one then.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 11/18/2008 9:54:31 AM
Author: toxicant
So 8200 is just an ok deal not a great one then.

EGL graded diamonds are often priced lower than GIA or AGS. The thing is with this diamond, it boils down to the cut quality or lack of, which gives a diamond its famous beauty. If the stone isn't well cut, it won't sparkle and in this case being a steep deep, there is a probability it will show dark areas, and or a dark area around the table as Storm's graphic illustrates. It depends on what you want - if you want a big diamond on a budget then there could be others which are better cut that will be more suitable that this one, also you could find others with an EGL report which are better cut if you want to go that way for budgetary concerns rather than this one.

 

[neatfreak]

Date: 11/18/2008 9:54:31 AM
Author: toxicant
So 8200 is just an ok deal not a great one then.

I wouldn''t pay $8200 for a stone like that personally.

 

[stone-cold11]

yap, just an ok deal for online vendors, not great.

 

[toxicant]

Thanks for all the help.

Ok one more question. Is there a cut that is best suited for a pendant? The one she has now is .75ct set in a platinum bezel. The gurdle just sticks past the mounting so it doesn''t really bother anything but with a stone of 2.0ct this won''t be the case. Would a flatter cut stone be better and can you get the fire out of a stone like that.

Or just throw all this crazy thought out the window and just look for a well cut stone and worry about the mounting later.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 11/18/2008 10:22:08 AM
Author: toxicant
Thanks for all the help.

Ok one more question. Is there a cut that is best suited for a pendant? The one she has now is .75ct set in a platinum bezel. The gurdle just sticks past the mounting so it doesn't really bother anything but with a stone of 2.0ct this won't be the case. Would a flatter cut stone be better and can you get the fire out of a stone like that.

Or just throw all this crazy thought out the window and just look for a well cut stone and worry about the mounting later.

The Holloway Cut Advisor's creator is of the opinion that some shallower stones can be better suited for a pendant as they are not subject to the normal viewing situations of a ring stone. However what you want to look for is a well cut and balanced diamond which should give you a nice performance as if you are on a budget and want a large stone you want to consider all reasonable options ( apart from the steep deep type of diamond which won't perform well in any conditions most likely).

 

[stone-cold11]

Basically shallower combinations of crown and pavilion angles. If you are using the HCA, read this. Basically, the stones in the pendant range will be just as bright and sparkly as an ideal cut graded by GIA/AGS but not being priced as ideal cuts so you will save some $$ and the stone will have a better face up size compared to similiar wt stone.

 

[Kelli]

It doesn''t need to have perfect hearts and arrows, but it does need to have great light return. Ditto using the HCA! Worry about the setting after you find the right stone.