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Thoughts on this OEC ring?

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Any expert opinions would be greatly appreciated! :)
 
I know you asked for an expert but I'm hoping you won't mind if I chime in.

What's the price.
Do you want all three stones?
Are you planning on keeping the setting?

The center stone it's the best with the faceting. I've seen some gorgeous stones of it's size recently. But none in a three stone like that so... if you love the whole ring, that's different. But if you are just asking about the center... I think, depending on the price, you might be able to do better. It's got a high crown and a small table but that off center culet would drive me bonkers.
 
To me, you are expert! You know more than me :) Thanks for your input!

To answer your question, I was able to make an offer of $1500 (orginally $2,000), which was accepted. So the center OEC is off-center? What do you think of the side stones...are they transitionals as stated in the description? I care most about CRAZY sparkle...think this ring will have it based on the cut?

I planned on keepin it as is...I really want a 3 stone ring as a RHR.
 
Not thinking you are going to get a disco ball out of that center. But you may get a lot of white light out of the ring as whole

You want a three stone, which makes it a wee bit more difficult. The side stones are small and they are in those petal settings that make everything look huge.

I think that it's a lot of bling you are getting though. Are you anal about details? Or more of a big picture person.
 
I *love* the petal setting detail for the side stones...that's what really attracted me to the ring. It's almost as if this ring is vintage meets modern (because of the swooping of the band).

Normally I am extremely detail oriented, but I am new to the older cut diamonds, so I'm not 100% sure of what to be looking for. What really attracted me to older cut diamonds is the different faceting and color display. I was hoping with this ring that there would be some great rainbow effect..........not sure I'll get that with this ring?
 
If there is a good return policy I'd say take a risk on it. When you get it make sure you wear it and check it out in all kinds of light and see how you feel about it.

Since you like it as a whole, that's my best advice.
 
I have a 3 day return window......out of curiosity, was $1500 a decent price?
 
It's hard with old cuts and I'm not an appraiser.

It's not an unreasonable price from what I've seen offered elsewhere and if it is a style you like then I think it might be okay. But that's IF the seller is accurate in their grading and if the setting is in good condition, and the stones are secure...etc.

Do you have a local appraiser? I'd ask for 7 days return.
 
I am not an expert but I do own five OEC/Transition cut rings so I will chime in. I would ask for the dimensions of the center diamond. In old cuts a .60 carat OEC can face up smaller then a modern RB. The side diamonds look like modern RB cut diamonds. I think the center OEC is nice but I do not see a beautiful facet pattern. But that could be that the pictures do not capture it. The most pleasing thing about old cuts is that they throw off lots of color. You really need to see it in person to gauge if it is what you like.
 
To me, it looks like a late 1800s OMC set into a much later era ring- say '40s or more likely '50s, with the transitional cuts (or more likely early RBs, since I do think it's '50s probably) added at the same time as the new setting.

OMCs can be lovely but they are usually a lot more... rustic... than OECs- much more likely to be very deep and have dark centers, cut for weight retention and not light return. Not to say you cannot find lovely OMCs, they're just different looking an an OEC, and frankly IMO it's harder to find well cut OMCs (but when you do, they're really gorgeous). Usually OMCs are kind of cushiony shaped- and it's hard to get a good look at the outline of this one in the illusion setting- but the faceting sure looks like one.

Whether or not this is a great OMC, can't say with the pics. Odds are against it though, honestly- but you can always assess it in person and decide. It's very hard to tell performance from pics.

ETA: It could be an early OEC too, of course. If it's got a round outline I'd call it an early OEC- but it's kinda academic, it's definitely a marriage of an earlier stone to a newer setting & sidestones, if that matters to you.

ETA again, because you know I must: It's not my favorite facet patterning on the center, but, if you love it that's absolutely what counts. I think the price is a bit high but not ridiculous, but, I also tend to be not quite caught up with getting my head around the higher prices lately so it's tough to assess. If you want a complete-package old cut three stone that you don't need to reset, you could do worse than purchasing it to get a look in person. As long as the return period's reasonable and there's no restocking fee or anything.
 
Thanks for all of your help. I think my best bet is to get it and see if it impresses me like I hope it does.

One more question though: A number of you have commented on the facet pattern being off...I'm not sure I see what you are talking about here...can any one of you, perhaps, be more descriptive as to why these particular facets are off....I'm new to old cuts, so please excuse my ignorance!
 
Oh, lord, it's kinda hard to put into words what I see with the facets. It's kind of just that they're not the sort of pattern I personally prefer. Can you spend some time looking through, say, Old World Diamond's inventory list and pics? And JbEG's sold listings? Just to get a good look at what old cuts look like- even just in photos. JbEG takes the best pics of jewelry- you might well get an idea of what faceting style you like. Honestly there's plenty of different looks and we are not all gonna come to a consensus on what style is "best".
 
Okay....one more question.....the other two diamonds (not the OEC in the middle) are not transitional, even though they are listed as that???? Those two are my main concern.......
 
The line between older, but still round brilliant, and transitional cut is honestly kinda foggy. (See Circe's recent thread on RT about that if you want to know more... way more :tongue: than you probably bargained for!) To me they look more like RBs: splintery facets, big table, and no visible culet. I wouldn't say the seller is necessarily misrepresenting at all- it's definitely not a black & white line between transitional vs. older RB... it might be that in person you can see a small culet or something. I definitely don't think you're going to get chunky looking facets out of the sidestones, though, if that's your main hope, unfortunately.
 
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