Thoughts on these claims from RC about super thin ring?

[Abby12]

Hi all,
I know ring width safety has been discussed many times here, but I am so curious to know your thoughts on these comments by vendor? What possible trick or secret could there be?
See the comments in the photos.

 

[Moonie]

I would also like to know!! I've wondered about these claims myself since I love the look of a very delicate, thin band.

 

[MoxiRoxi]

Oh my! I am so rough on my jewelry, that thing would be bent and missing a center stone in a matter of weeks LOL

 

[bludiva]

the only secret to making a thin band strong is to make it tall

 

[Moonie]

the only secret to making a thin band strong is to make it tall

Like a knife edge I'm guessing?

 

[dk168]

Whatever is their secret in the design or manufacturing process, the look does not suit me, as I have short chubby fingers and do not like the look of a tied up joint of roast beef, if you know what I mean.

DK

 

[MoxiRoxi]

Whatever is their secret in the design or manufacturing process, the look does not suit me, as I have short chubby fingers and do not like the look of a tied up joint of roast beef, if you know what I mean.

DK

LOL!!! This gave me such a laugh! My least favorite body parts are my hands, I have man hands

 

[JPie]

Make it tall and tapered. Almost all of my Kataoka rings are made this way. The height of the shank is 2mm, and the width is 1mm that tapers to a milgrain knife edge.

I haven’t had any issues with them, and the longest I’ve had one of their rings is six years. Once I add them to my rotation, I wear them daily for weeks or months.

 

[bludiva]

@Moonie kind of but taller all the way around. the photo quality isnt good but my engagement ring is super thin (<2mm) but taller than my wedding band

the other ways to make the metal harder are the alloy or by work hardening. if they have some secret alloy recipe that obly they know that would be suprising and every jeweler knows how to work harden.

i guess my overall point is i don't believe they have some secret sauce.

 

[Abby12]

My thought was also that it had to be thicker in height on band, but that doesn’t seem to be the way they have done it here.

 

[bibliotheque_]

That setting is the inspiration for the setting I’ve asked DK to make for my ring. It seems to me that many experienced people believe those rings simply aren’t safe and that they will eventually warp or break over time. I believe the general advice they give on their page is that the ring shouldn’t be worn for any activities other than sitting at a desk or going out for dinner. I wonder if that is how they claim that it’s “safe for every day wear.” Maybe their version of every day does not include washing dishes, doing any form of manual labor or lifting boxes, etc. which isn’t completely unreasonable when you consider that their clientele probably consists of New Yorkers (or other city dwellers) who eat out for all their meals, are willing to take their rings off at the gym and put them on a necklace or something, and are working in offices where they type most of the day.

 

[Abby12]

what did you end up requesting from DK for your setting?

 

[bibliotheque_]

what did you end up requesting from DK for your setting?

I will have a pave band and for that he was willing to go as thin as 1.8mm. For non-pave he said he would be willing to go as low as 1.6mm. I think the whisper thin can go as low as 1.2mm depending on diamond size (I think Nicole scales the width of the shank with the size of the diamond). DK recommends his 14K WG mix for really thin shanks because they are stronger. If you prefer platinum he suggests going thicker.

 

[OdetteOdile]

Make it tall and tapered. Almost all of my Kataoka rings are made this way. The height of the shank is 2mm, and the width is 1mm that tapers to a milgrain knife edge.

I haven’t had any issues with them, and the longest I’ve had one of their rings is six years. Once I add them to my rotation, I wear them daily for weeks or months.

I love your collection of Kataoka jewelry and really enjoy the thread you started. I have often wondered how comfortable these pieces are to wear.

 

[lovedogs]

I think their claim of having a "secret" is freaking nonsense. I just think they aren't stable, period. I think some designer pieces like Kataoka (as @JPie said), have actual ways of making thin rings sturdy, but it means having them be taller, tapering, etc. The rings that OP posted seem to do none of that, so I suspect they will eventually warp and/or break.

 

[JPie]

I love your collection of Kataoka jewelry and really enjoy the thread you started. I have often wondered how comfortable these pieces are to wear.

Thanks! They’re very comfortable. I hardly notice that I’m wearing them!

 

[yssie]

I think their claim of having a "secret" is freaking nonsense. I just think they aren't stable, period. I think some designer pieces like Kataoka (as @JPie said), have actual ways of making thin rings sturdy, but it means having them be taller, tapering, etc. The rings that OP posted seem to do none of that, so I suspect they will eventually warp and/or break.

Yup.

 

[MissGotRocks]

It is not enough to claim that theirs is somehow superior to all others - they would have to be able to explain that to me and have it make sense. I have serious doubts about their claims and wouldn't want to risk it.

 

[Karl_K]

Heat treatable allloy? Its expensive and a real pain to work with but its one possibility if its not hot air.

 

[Abby12]

Heat treatable allloy? Its expensive and a real pain to work with but its one possibility if its not hot air.

Interesting.....never heard of this before!

 

[Karl_K]

Interesting.....never heard of this before!

Its been around since the 70s in one form or another but never caught on.

 

[diamondlove123]

Would handforged band make it stronger? I have a very thin maybe 1.2mm band handforged 18k gold. I didn’t ask the jeweler to make it that thin but he did, I wonder if I will have issues?

 

[Polabowla]

Would be curious to hear/read real customer reviews after a year or two of daily wear- as to how the rings stood up to wear & tear. (And not to the pampering mentioned above).

 

[Karl_K]

Would handforged band make it stronger? I have a very thin maybe 1.2mm band handforged 18k gold. I didn’t ask the jeweler to make it that thin but he did, I wonder if I will have issues?

In general yes somewhat stronger..
Impossible to say if you will have issues but in general its not recomended.

 

[Garry H (Cut Nut)]

Almost all jewellery is cast these days. If the band was made by hand forging it can be tougher.

But how ever it is made the main strength issue is the bottom inside the hand where it takes a beating.
This can be hammered after assembly whether cast or forged.
gold alloys work harden and soften with successive heating for soldering.

 

[diamondlove123]

Almost all jewellery is cast these days. If the band was made by hand forging it can be tougher.

But how ever it is made the main strength issue is the bottom inside the hand where it takes a beating.
This can be hammered after assembly whether cast or forged.
gold alloys work harden and soften with successive heating for soldering.

Thank you!

 

[Abby12]

Would be curious to hear/read real customer reviews after a year or two of daily wear- as to how the rings stood up to wear & tear. (And not to the pampering mentioned above).

Yes me too!!!!! So curious!

 

[Moonie]

I know @DanniiD has a ring from RC! I believe she would've had it for a year or so now P.S. Love her ring!!

 

[meesmom]

I have a CVB jovyn thats super thin, but only at the top of the shank the back is about 2mm wide. Ive had it for almost three years and its like a tank, super sturdy!!

 

[Abby12]

I have a CVB jovyn thats super thin, but only at the top of the shank the back is about 2mm wide. Ive had it for almost three years and its like a tank, super sturdy!!

Really beautiful! Is it a knife edge ? Kind of hard for my inexperienced eyes to tell.....