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Date: 10/28/2006 4:05:24 PM
Author: davidwolf
Facefire, do you work at WF?
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Lol! David, you just have to understand that there are a lot of diamond-obsessed women on here who have turned this into a hobby. We actually think it''s fun to look at diamonds and give advice! Actually, it''d easier for me to give others advice than it is for me to choose my own! But no, Facet Fire really doesn''t work for a jeweler at all! Neither do I!
 
Just asking, I did not intend to offend anyone.

So what do you ladies think? I, G or what given what I have said?
 
David, this is extremely difficult because it is based so much on personal preference. I''d for sure feel good telling you to get an H color at 1.5 carats. In my own search, I limited my choice to G or H. I just wanted the high end of near-colorless. Why? Just because I like it whiter. Others are totally happy with I and J because they can get a larger diamond for the money. But would I rather have a 1.25 or a 1.5? I''d rather have a 1.5. I just wish there was an H VS 1.5 and I''d feel much more certain about recommending that.
 
What size is her ring finger?
 
I agree with DS that color is so personal and "I" seems to be a cut off for a lot of people. I''m a size gal and would probably take the larger "i" over a smaller G or H if I had to choose, but that''s me.
 
Date: 10/28/2006 5:23:15 PM
Author: mrssalvo
I agree with DS that color is so personal and ''I'' seems to be a cut off for a lot of people. I''m a size gal and would probably take the larger ''i'' over a smaller G or H if I had to choose, but that''s me.
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Yeah, I think I''d have to at least look at the I color one. That is such a great size. It''s worth it to try it.
 
Aha!!! and therein lies the slippery slope! This is exactly what I did!. Thought, I know I could get a much bigger diamond for almost the same money by dropping color.. then after I had mentally committed that money wanted the higher color again but in the new BIGGER size!! so I upped the budget then went through that cycle all over again until I completely maxed out every last bit of budget I had.!! Ha the bug has got you!!


Cracked me up - so, so true!

I have an H color and I just can''t imagine it being any whiter. It''s in a platinum setting and it is amazing. I also have a 1 ct "J" color - because of the cut many people have commented about how sparkly it is. When I was trying to decide between this "H" and the same size "D", the jeweler purposely mixed them up, then set them down for me to try and pick which one was the "D". I picked wrong!! After much studying, my husband guessed which one was the "D". But if not comparing side by side, I''m not sure you''d see a difference between a G and an I. So...I''d definately go with the bigger.
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Date: 10/28/2006 5:20:16 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006
What size is her ring finger?
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6.25.
 
I have seen both stones and the only thing that is stopping me is that the G really is a performer, if the I performed as well as the G it would be a no brainer. The G definately reflects more white, but you really have to look at them both side by side to tell (this has nothing to do with color, it simply is brighter due to how it is cut). If Rockdoc had not pointed out all the details I probably would not be able to tell the difference, but he is slowly starting to train my eyes.

To the regular eye, the difference would probably not be noticable. I guess this idea is lingering in my head. I am going to take another look at them tomorrow.

Would a 1.5 be very large on a size 6.25 finger?
 
David, really, ACA''s are going to be excellent performers. So maybe one is in the top 1% and the other is in the top 2%...no one would ever, ever know the difference! So if you were comfortable with the I color, then most definitely choose the 1.5! A 6.25 is an average size finger, not small, so I do think the 1.5 would look better.
 
Date: 10/28/2006 7:02:25 PM
Author: davidwolf
...Would a 1.5 be very large on a size 6.25 finger?
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"Very large"? As in "too large"? Not IMVHO... I am a size 4.75 and my first diamond was a 1.53 and I didn't think it looked "very large" at all. But of course I am a sufferer of chronis DSS and even my 2.36 is shrinking right in front of my eyes.
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So David, just to make I have read this correctly - you have seen both stones side by side? with Rockdoc? and you are torn becuase you see the smaller stone to have slightly more performance? but the larger stone is pretty darn good too? If you have seen them both side-by-side and you can''t make a decision then they''re pretty close right?

I think you should sit in a quiet room and stop analysing and look deeeeep inside and see what your gut is telling you! Don''t worry about what you *think* you should think!

Easy for me to say! just my .02

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Date: 10/28/2006 9:39:34 PM
Author: angeline
So David, just to make I have read this correctly - you have seen both stones side by side? with Rockdoc? and you are torn becuase you see the smaller stone to have slightly more performance? but the larger stone is pretty darn good too? If you have seen them both side-by-side and you can''t make a decision then they''re pretty close right?

I think you should sit in a quiet room and stop analysing and look deeeeep inside and see what your gut is telling you! Don''t worry about what you *think* you should think!

Easy for me to say! just my .02

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That would be correct.

Just curious what should ACA''s score on the brilliant scope or can they be all over the place?
 
I asked WF if they used the Gemex Brillianscope. (Do I have that right, it is the Gemex?) and they said they used to use it until about a year ago. They found the ACA''s all scored consistently highly. I think they had some technical or scientific issues with the usefullness of the Brill. and discontinued it. anyway that is just my probably incorrect memory of their answer, You can just ask them to clarify. (and no I don''t work for them!)

Have you got any closer to a decision?
 
Ok, here is my logic and please comment.

I spent a lot of time looking at both stones with Rockdoc. To tell the difference is like splitting hairs, both look very nice. One does not look significantly better then the ohter. There is a little bit more warmth in the "I" but it is not ugly by any means. We used some temporary ring prongs, and the color becomes even more difficult to tell.

Also, I had my fiance to be go into Tiffany''s to take a look. They showed her both a G 1.25 and I 1.5. She loved both and could not tell the difference. Clearly we are both color insensitive.

So my logic now is, go with the "I" and worse case if the color is a problem. I could always upgrade later. I would assume, that it would be much easier to unset and reset a new stone worse case in the 1.5 range. I am having the ring made my Mark Morrell.

Thoughts?
 
TIffany''s lighting is very distracting to me. I don''t know if I could tell a D from a J in there. Having said that, if she has seen an I and liked it, I would do the I diamond.
 
I agree to get the 1.5 I now and upgrade the color later, if necessary. That is better than changing the size as far as the setting is concerned. As jazmine said, though, Tiffany lighting does not allow you to see color difference at all. I also couldn''t tell an F from an I in there, but I can in natural daylight. There was a girl on here who had an I H&A stone and she recently upgraded to a G because the color did bother her. But either way you''re safe since there is an upgrade policy!
 
The ACA stones bling so much, with natural daylight it is extremely difficult to tell. All you see is sparkle.
 
I really think you''re safe with the I color, David. I agree that it is safer to go with a lower color with a well cut stone.
 
Date: 10/28/2006 12:14:47 PM
Author: Ellen

Date: 10/28/2006 12:07:05 PM
Author: davidwolf
So, the G 1.25 face up appears to have more white light and scintilation. The 1.53 I VS2 has less white light, more contrast and just as much color a little bit less scintilation. This is like splitting hairs...I don''t know what to do.
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If it''s between these two, look at the two factors that aren''t splitting hairs.

One is G, one is I. Does color matter, is someone color sensitive? If not, cancel out color, and you''re left with size. Bigger is better here.
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I think Ellen''s idea is excellent! They are both well cut stones that are almost the same in every way. The only two things that distinguish them are color and size. You really should be OK with an I in a well cut stone. Have your GF look at an I outside of the jewelry store lights to be SURE the color won''t be an issue.
 
Well I went with the I. I have spent hours trying to see a difference between these stones and to my eyes in various lighting it is very difficult. The ACA''s are so beautiful that it truly is difficult to tell because there is so much sparkle, color and flashes. Some might see otherwise, but given the cost difference is huge I really think the I''s have good value if the stone you are looking at is well cut.

In addition to everyone on PS, I have to thank Rockdoc for helping me through this. He literally has spent hours with me going through this. To say the least he has gone well above and beyond and I commend his services in every way. If I had anymore stones to look at I think it would have driven me mad :) I now know why he loves what he does so much.
 
Congratulations, David! I think you made a great choice! Please come back and post pictures of the ring for us! We''d love to see it (and hear about your proposal when that time comes!).
 
Congratulations David! You made the choice I would have made, therefore you made the right choice! (tongue-in-cheek here
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Seriously, you probably won't even remember the miniscule difference in performance between the larger and smaller stone once they're not side-by-side. But you will remember the big size difference!

Can't wait to see what setting you choose and hear about the proposal etc. All the best, a
 
I have gone with a Sunburst setting from Mark Morrell. Still thinking about proposal Idea, but I have a pretty good idea of where we are going to go.
 
you are going to have one GORGEOUS ring. please come back and post pictures once it''s done.
 
I LOVE MArk Morrell. From what I have read he does the most amazing work, sheer perfection. That is going to look amazing.
 
With the custom setting I think you''ll be glad that you went with the larger stone.
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Can''t wait to see the stone in the setting. Please post photos.
 
Congrats David, great choice!! I love the sunburst setting by MM. It will be amazing. Can''t wait for you to proposes and come back here with plenty of hand pics!!!
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Hah, hopefully I will have my new macro lens by then too. Make the pics extra good!
 
Another thing...The color rating on the stone came back as a High I, near H color. So I guess everything worked out :)
 
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