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I am way new to this forum and had a question about my center stone. I have been married for 8 yrs. and have moved 8 times in the 8 yrs. My husband purchased the center diamond solo and then we went and picked out a setting together before we were married. He did have the specs on it but in the 8 moves it has been lost. At the time I had no clue what any of it meant. However, now that I have been on this forum I have made myself crazy trying to figure out if it is a nice stone.

So here is my question: My stone sparkles quite a bit and has a lot of fire but sometimes it can seem cloudy. Is that possible to have it sparkle and have fire but not be so white looking? If so what is the problem? It is bezel set, but from what I have read that shouldn''t matter. I just got it reset in a halo setting so I am kind of discovering it all over again.
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Thanks ahead of time for any help.
 
Without measurements and at least pictures, we really can''t tell you much about whether it''s a well cut stone or not. Sorry!

BUT if you''re really interested, you could get it appraised again by an independent appraiser like Richard Sherwood or Dave Atlas. They could tell you pretty quickly.
 
Sometimes, after so many years, it's best not to know.
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Just enjoy it as it is. Keeping it clean very often will help the diamond look its best.
 
I did try to take pictures but my camera does not zoom in enough to give much detail. Sorry. Thanks for the input. And as far as most people are concerned it is a nice ring. Ignorance is bliss.....darn pricescope!
 
Does your camera have the macro feature? It is a button with the picture of a little tulip. Use this to take close magnified pictures of the diamond. And don''t forget to turn OFF the flash.
 
No, it doesn''t. I will look into borrowing one soon. thank you.
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"Cloudy" and "not so white looking" are not the same thing in mind, so I'm not sure exactly what you mean and will certainly check back for pictures.

But I'm wondering if perhaps sometimes you just get fingerprints/oil/hand cream/soap, etc. on your stone? That could explain it looking cloudy sometimes but not always. If your stone were full of inclusions that were visible to the eye, I think that would be obvious to you. And since your stone is bezel set, it's even more important for the light to enter in through the top, so gunk on the stone could have more of an impact on its appearance. Have you tried cleaning it?
 
It is so nice to have people respond to what might be a silly question. I clean it all the time. I know that it is "eye clean" because my husband looked through a loupe and saw a small inclusion but could not see it without. It just looks cloudy or tinny to me sometimes? I will definately send pictures. If anyone has a link to an excellent example of a Round Brilliant that could help me compare. I tried the search engine but says there is an error. I know it isn''t a hearts and arrows version and I think round brilliant is what it is. Thanks
 
What do you use for cleaning? There many options.
1. Ultrasonic
2. Amonia + water (only on platinum settings) + baby toothbrush
3. Mr. Clean + water + baby toothbrush
4. Jewellery cleanner + baby toothbrush

Many of us here clean our rings daily. I also use pressured air to dry my ring to avoid the dreaded water spots.
 
#4. I would love to use amonia but mine is white gold . What is okay to use with white gold?
 
#1, 3 and 4 are fine with gold. An occasional steaming at the jewellery store does wonders to remove the really stubborn grime.
 
I would think that 8 years after the fact--the info may not be all that helpful unless you have plans to upgrade it and use it in the financial equation.
Cos You'll have two possibilities:
1. It is an awesome diamond--lucky you --happy happy joy joy
or
2. It is less than awesome--how would you feel than? At this point it is an emotional rollar coaster aimed downhill. Would you love it *less*?

It would not be worth it to me, for me, if there is no purpose to the information.

edited to add: I guess maybe I misread your question so feel free to ignore my answer LOL Guess it more a question about how your diamond looks in the new setting rather than specifics on knowing its cut quality?
 
Pressurized air? Hairdryer? And I am thinking of using a U.S. but I have no clue where to buy and good kinds. I am all about keeping my ring perfect at all times.
 
A really well cut stone will look kind of dark in full light sometimes -- could that be what you''re seeing?

Next time you see it move your hand to filter the light and see if the sparkle/lack of cloudiness is back.

I''ve done this sitting in the car line at school. The ring looks grey so I put it under the dash a little and it brightens right up.

HTH
 
Yes, it has always been in the sun that I have examined it and thought it looked cloudy. Can the sun mess it up like that? If so that may be why. I thought the sun would make it look clearer.. Thank you.
 
is blue flourescence a possiblity? the general issue people attach to diamonds with Fluoroscence is that they give hte stone a "milky" look...
 
It does have a lot of fire but I see all different colors. If it had a blue fluoresent would it be blue shots of color? Is there any way of knowing without having the certificates? I would do a search on all this stuff but it hasn''t let me all day. Just comes up as a error
 
Date: 8/10/2007 6:49:15 PM
Author: married with children
It does have a lot of fire but I see all different colors. If it had a blue fluoresent would it be blue shots of color? Is there any way of knowing without having the certificates? I would do a search on all this stuff but it hasn''t let me all day. Just comes up as a error
No. The flo can give the stone a bluish violet overall color in the sun (do you see this effect?). And, can make the stone look milky, cloudy also in the sun. This may be the culprit.


Search feature is temporarily on the fritz.
 
It does have kind of a metal blue tint to it. Are fluoresents bad? Or is it just personal preference type thing? Maybe that is what is going on,
 
DBM, I''ve actually heard the same thing about diamonds with strong fluoresence. That was the first thought that came to mind when you said your diamond looked milky in certain lighting conditions. I''ve heard (but never seen first hand) that diamonds can appear oily in sunlight if they have strong fluoresence.

Maybe you can do a test by putting your diamond under a UV light globe (??) and see if it continues to glow blue afterwards. I am really not 100% sure what I''m talking about, but one PS-er posted a pic of a diamond with mild fluoresence after it had been sitting under a certain type of light globe and it was glowing blue.
 
Date: 8/10/2007 4:17:15 PM
Author: Chrono
What do you use for cleaning? There many options.


2. Amonia + water (only on platinum settings) + baby toothbrush

Don't forget Palladium!



And, have you ever seen it glowing in the dark before--at say a haunted house or somewhere like that? If so its very likely to be flu. causing the problem.
You could always head over to walmart or somewhere in the mall and pick up a little uv light and test it out. Some stores even have them just sitting out, you know the ones with skulls and big crosses and gag gifts?
 
Nail salons usually have them as well, the lights that you dry your nails under...but that would probably require you to get a manicure, which is not a bad thing!
 
I am going to buy a bulb just to see. Thanks ellen for the links. It was really informative! I will let you know what I discover and hopefully some pictures of my ring.
 
personally i have a difficult enough time checking for blue fluoro in a face-up diamond while it''s out of the settign all the more so when it''s already in a setting (i always check with the stone loose and face down on a card) so i dont'' know how practical it''ll be for you to spot the blue in your stone while it''s set especially if you''ve never seen it before to know what you''re looking for. Real expert diamond dealers with years of experience (in othe words, not me :-) ) are able to sense fluorescence in loose diamonds even in regular office lighting but it''s almost impossible i think for the average joe.

if words help though the fluoroscence is kind of like a white "fire-cloud" that will be seen "floating" in the middle of the diamond.
 
Date: 8/11/2007 10:20:21 PM
Author: DBM
personally i have a difficult enough time checking for blue fluoro in a face-up diamond while it's out of the settign all the more so when it's already in a setting (i always check with the stone loose and face down on a card) so i dont' know how practical it'll be for you to spot the blue in your stone while it's set especially if you've never seen it before to know what you're looking for. Real expert diamond dealers with years of experience (in othe words, not me :-) ) are able to sense fluorescence in loose diamonds even in regular office lighting but it's almost impossible i think for the average joe.

if words help though the fluoroscence is kind of like a white 'fire-cloud' that will be seen 'floating' in the middle of the diamond.
This post makes no sense to me. You don't check for fluorescence the way to check for an inclusion. If her stone is strong blue she will know it the INSTANT it hits a black light. Trust me, I have done it. It is extremely simple and anyone with a black light can see a strong blue. They glow bright periwinkle - like a periwinkle/white coal! (provided it is a blue flo and not a yellow or some such, but those are rare.) It is really fun to look at the strong blues under a black light bulb.
Some strong blues can be detected in regular lighting conditions and some cannot. If you have a black light you'll get your answer.
 
what is a black light?
 
it is the lights that my cousin uses during parties to make his beer bottles glow. He filled them up with fluorescent highlighter ink
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and then they all wrote perverted messages on the walls with it. When you turn on the blacklights...wow, its like some sortof horror movie.

let us know what you find!
 
I tried to buy a UV bulb at Home Depot, but they didn''t have any.
 
Date: 8/12/2007 12:48:08 AM
Author: married with children
I tried to buy a UV bulb at Home Depot, but they didn''t have any.

Try places like Spencers Gifts at the mall. Any place where they sell teenage type stuff they should have them. Or at stores that sell, ummm, pipes and the like!
 
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