"The Washington Post's" Story on Trump's Groping

[AGBF]

Another poster alluded to this tape made by Donald Trump in another thread. When I read that I had only read the account of the incident written in "The New York Times. When I read the full story in, "The Washington Post" I decided to post an excerpt from the story to make sure that everyone on Pricescope had easy access to it. It is really pretty astounding, even for Donald trump.

"Donald Trump bragged in vulgar terms about kissing, groping and trying to have sex with women during a 2005 conversation caught on a hot microphone, saying that 'when you’re a star, they let you do it,' according to a video obtained by The Washington Post.

The video captures Trump talking with Billy Bush, then of 'Access Hollywood,' on a bus with the show’s name written across the side. They were arriving on the set of “Days of Our Lives” to tape a segment about Trump’s cameo on the soap opera.

The tape includes audio of Bush and Trump talking inside the bus, as well as audio and video once they emerge from it to begin shooting the segment.

In that audio, Trump discusses a failed attempt to seduce a woman, whose full name is not given in the video.

'I moved on her, and I failed. I’ll admit it,' Trump is heard saying. It was unclear when the events he was describing took place. The tape was recorded several months after he married his third wife, Melania.

'Whoa,' another voice said.

'I did try and f--- her. She was married,' Trump says.

Trump continues: 'And I moved on her very heavily. In fact, I took her out furniture shopping. She wanted to get some furniture. I said, "I’ll show you where they have some nice furniture."'

'I moved on her like a bitch, but I couldn’t get there. And she was married,' Trump says. 'Then all of a sudden I see her, she’s now got the big phony tits and everything. She’s totally changed her look.'

At that point in the audio, Trump and Bush appear to notice Arianne Zucker, the actress who is waiting to escort them into the soap-opera set.

'Your girl’s hot as s---, in the purple,' says Bush, who’s now a co-host of NBC’s 'Today' show.

“Whoa!” Trump says. “Whoa!”

'I’ve got to use some Tic Tacs, just in case I start kissing her,' Trump says. 'You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait.'

'And when you’re a star, they let you do it,' Trump says. 'You can do anything.'

'Whatever you want,' says another voice, apparently Bush’s.

'Grab them by the p---y,' Trump says. 'You can do anything.'

A spokeswoman for NBC Universal, which produces and distributes 'Access Hollywood,' declined to comment."

 

[sstephensid]

I almost posted this. Then I thought, why bother? The same 4 or so people will defend him. Or rather, "I'm not defending Trump, but..." Then will proceed to make excuses. Such as, it was so long ago. (Even though Bill cheating on Hillary 20 years ago still matters) or I'm sure Bill has said worse (Bill isn't running for president) on and on.

CNN said this was in 2005. He married Melania in 2005. So when did he try to "bleep" this lady? He had been dating Melania since what 1999? So it seems he tried to cheat on Melania. Even if this was prior to 1999, the things he said are appalling. But don't worry, he's better than Hillary.

 

[VRBeauty]

The big question to me is whether Trump will still debate on Sunday night, or will he come up with some finger-pointing excuse to pull out? He has had a terrible no good very bad week or two.

 

[Calliecake]

The man is and always has been a disgusting pig.

 

[arkieb1]

I've heard a number of people including posters from here claim they can't trust Hillary because she stayed with Bill the man who cheated on her, yet Trump on the other hand can pretty well get away with anything that any normal politician couldn't because he was, and is a pseudo TV/Internet star. Then there is always that whole boys will be boys undercurrent/tone in the rhetoric that also seems to run in some peoples thought processes, as seen in your "Everybody commits Adultery" thread. Mr Giuliani and others mostly white and male no doubt think it's fine for a high profile rich white male to act like a dog on heat but in the next sentence somehow Hillary should be burned at the stake for staying with the cheating Bill. And the excuses, oh it's not that she stayed with him, its the way she bought off and threatened those women. Ummm hello, many of these men who pull this s@#* also buy off, bully, threaten and in some cases rape women, including Trump.

It doesn't matter what you say Deb, people who want to hate Hillary will and those who want to overlook all of Trumps failings, of which there are many more than Hillary's which is the point we all keep trying to make here will continue to do so....

For most outsiders the spectacle of both of your presidential candidates is fascinating, it's like a car crash you know isn't going to end well but you can't help but watch anyway. On the one had you have the bad and on the other you have someone who quite honesty should NEVER have been put there. Heaven help all of us if he is elected....

 

[VRBeauty]

I almost posted this. Then I thought, why bother? The same 4 or so people will defend him. Or rather, "I'm not defending Trump, but..." Then will proceed to make excuses. Such as, it was so long ago. (Even though Bill cheating on Hillary 20 years ago still matters) or I'm sure Bill has said worse (Bill isn't running for president) on and on.

CNN said this was in 2005. He married Melania in 2005. So when did he try to "bleep" this lady? He had been dating Melania since what 1999? So it seems he tried to cheat on Melania. Even if this was prior to 1999, the things he said are appalling. But don't worry, he's better than Hillary.

I like to think the best of people, which in this case includes the possibility that this latest Trump revelation will cause some people to re-think their assessment of the whole "which is worse" question - and it's corollary, the whole "I can't bring myself to vote for either" question. But that's just me.

 

[sstephensid]

I almost posted this. Then I thought, why bother? The same 4 or so people will defend him. Or rather, "I'm not defending Trump, but..." Then will proceed to make excuses. Such as, it was so long ago. (Even though Bill cheating on Hillary 20 years ago still matters) or I'm sure Bill has said worse (Bill isn't running for president) on and on.

CNN said this was in 2005. He married Melania in 2005. So when did he try to "bleep" this lady? He had been dating Melania since what 1999? So it seems he tried to cheat on Melania. Even if this was prior to 1999, the things he said are appalling. But don't worry, he's better than Hillary.

I like to think the best of people, which in this case includes the possibility that this latest Trump revelation will cause some people to re-think their assessment of the whole "which is worse" question - and it's corollary, the whole "I can't bring myself to vote for either" question. But that's just me.

I have seen people here make excuses for his racism. Why is sexism any worse?

 

[iLander]

I've heard a number of people including posters from here claim they can't trust Hillary because she stayed with Bill the man who cheated on her, yet Trump on the other hand can pretty well get away with anything that any normal politician couldn't because he was, and is a pseudo TV/Internet star. Then there is always that whole boys will be boys undercurrent/tone in the rhetoric that also seems to run in some peoples thought processes, as seen in your "Everybody commits Adultery" thread. Mr Giuliani and others mostly white and male no doubt think it's fine for a high profile rich white male to act like a dog on heat but in the next sentence somehow Hillary should be burned at the stake for staying with the cheating Bill. And the excuses, oh it's not that she stayed with him, its the way she bought off and threatened those women. Ummm hello, many of these men who pull this s@#* also buy off, bully, threaten and in some cases rape women, including Trump.

It doesn't matter what you say Deb, people who want to hate Hillary will and those who want to overlook all of Trumps failings, of which there are many more than Hillary's which is the point we all keep trying to make here will continue to do so....

For most outsiders the spectacle of both of your presidential candidates is fascinating, it's like a car crash you know isn't going to end well but you can't help but watch anyway. On the one had you have the bad and on the other you have someone who quite honesty should NEVER have been put there. Heaven help all of us if he is elected....

That's because they are victims of brainwashing by the misogynistic asshats at Fox. Fox has been beating into their brains, for many years, how bad every single Democrat is. And Hillary is the worst because she's an uppity woman, very threatening to many white men (who think all women are either the Madonna or a whore). Hillary is almost as threatening as a smart black president.

That's the thing about brainwash victims, they don't know that they are victims who have been manipulated.

 

[arkieb1]

There have been some fascinating academics who have written pieces on the fact a lot of uneducated people love Trump because they somehow believe he represents the ordinary person without a voice. And of course a lot of white supremacists all support him, and yes the men and women brainwashed to believe Hillary is evil and Trump is somehow going to part the Red Sea and lead America out of economic recession, by supporting big businesses and giving more tax concessions and kick backs to his rich buddies Hillary was lambasted for saying what we are all thinking Trump is leading a revolution of morons but hey that will somehow magically make American great once again.....

 

[lovedogs]

I almost posted this. Then I thought, why bother? The same 4 or so people will defend him. Or rather, "I'm not defending Trump, but..." Then will proceed to make excuses. Such as, it was so long ago. (Even though Bill cheating on Hillary 20 years ago still matters) or I'm sure Bill has said worse (Bill isn't running for president) on and on.

CNN said this was in 2005. He married Melania in 2005. So when did he try to "bleep" this lady? He had been dating Melania since what 1999? So it seems he tried to cheat on Melania. Even if this was prior to 1999, the things he said are appalling. But don't worry, he's better than Hillary.

I like to think the best of people, which in this case includes the possibility that this latest Trump revelation will cause some people to re-think their assessment of the whole "which is worse" question - and it's corollary, the whole "I can't bring myself to vote for either" question. But that's just me.

That would be the best case scenario here. I can't imagine anyone at this point still arguing that they are "equally bad", although I know some will. Hopefully this will move anyone who is still either undecided or has decided not to vote to change their mind. If for no other reason than to STOP THIS MAN FROM BEING POTUS!!!!

 

[arkieb1]

What will happen is they will release some more emails Hillary sent and condemn her for lying about something else and all that will somehow brainwash everyone into overlooking that if Trump was POTUS he will say do 1000 time worse s@#* than she ever has and will....

 

[Calliecake]

I'm waiting for the usual four or five people here to start defending him. Of course it is always followed up with "I'm not voting in this election" and "Hillary's a liar".

One of the things that really disturbs me is that this man has a daughter and granddaughters. I would never look at my father the same way again if I heard these types of comments come out of his mouth. Just when you think Trump can't get any worse, he manages to do so.
These comments were no more acceptable in 2005 as they are today. He is a pig.

Hopefully at some point everything that has been reported this year will affect his brand. I hope he loses another 900 million dollars this year. Let's be honest, money and his ego are all he really cares about anyway.

 

[lovedogs]

What will happen is they will release some more emails Hillary sent and condemn her for lying about something else and all that will somehow brainwash everyone into overlooking that if Trump was POTUS he will say do 1000 time worse s@#* than she ever has and will....

Right, because somehow people never tire of talking about HRC lying (largely without proof of said "lies"), but Trump talking about assault is tooooootally fine.

 

[iLander]

Here's my contribution, feel free to quote me. Use it on your Facebook, instagram, whatever.

It totally sums up how I feel about the way this guy is revealing a bit more of his grossness every day.

 

[VRBeauty]

I have seen people here make excuses for his racism. Why is sexism any worse?

I'm not saying it is worse. But - for one thing - not everybody can "identify" with being a member of a minority race. More than half of the U.S. can identify with being a woman, and at least some of the remainder is able to think about what such behavior how such behavior would hurt and demean someone they love.

And yes, there are some for whom this won't move the needle at all, for whatever reason.

 

[SMC]

I almost posted this. Then I thought, why bother? The same 4 or so people will defend him. Or rather, "I'm not defending Trump, but..." Then will proceed to make excuses. Such as, it was so long ago. (Even though Bill cheating on Hillary 20 years ago still matters) or I'm sure Bill has said worse (Bill isn't running for president) on and on.

CNN said this was in 2005. He married Melania in 2005. So when did he try to "bleep" this lady? He had been dating Melania since what 1999? So it seems he tried to cheat on Melania. Even if this was prior to 1999, the things he said are appalling. But don't worry, he's better than Hillary.

I like to think the best of people, which in this case includes the possibility that this latest Trump revelation will cause some people to re-think their assessment of the whole "which is worse" question - and it's corollary, the whole "I can't bring myself to vote for either" question. But that's just me.

That would be the best case scenario here. I can't imagine anyone at this point still arguing that they are "equally bad", although I know some will. Hopefully this will move anyone who is still either undecided or has decided not to vote to change their mind. If for no other reason than to STOP THIS MAN FROM BEING POTUS!!!!

Whenever I hear someone saying that Hillary and Trump are "equally bad", I want to cry from frustration.

Even his staffers can't defend him. My favorite quote from this article: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/gop-piles-donald-trump-over-remarks-women-n662276?cid=sm_fb
"This one matters," a Trump campaign staffer conceded, adding they had "no idea" how to spin the story in their favor.

 

[AGBF]

My daughter and I watched MSNBC late into the night (for us) like television fanatics last night. We both kept falling asleep, but Donald Trump was supposed to delivery a second (and real) apology. My daughter woke me up when the videotape he had made of it came on. I fell asleep again watching it and she woke me up when it played a second time. I finally "got" it that time and I wasn't very impressed. It was less an apology than the usual attack on Secretary Clinton!

He still needs to rescue an America that is in a very bad place and Clinton still wants to do bad things. Why is all that in his so-called apology?

Video...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipBvoEDBOpw

Deb

 

[AGBF]

CNN said this was in 2005. He married Melania in 2005. So when did he try to "bleep" this lady?

The anchor on MSNBC said he had recently married Melania and was,"a newlywed".


In the story below, in which he harasses another woman who is already in a relationship with another man and who tries to avoid his advances, he is married to Marla Maples, who us pregnant.

article...http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/09/opinion/sunday/donald-trump-groper-in-chief.html?_r=0

Deb/AGBF

 

[the_mother_thing]

The ONLY reason this is news is because he is running for office. And the reason it DOES require we compare HIS behavior with HRC's actions is because we are put in the most unfortunate position of having to choose between these two clowns. I would love nothing more than both to drop out due to the disgrace they have both brought to this process and the mockery they've made of it. Alas, I don't feel that lucky.

 

[Niel]

I am embarrassed for this country. The fact a racist sexual predator is so close to the site house is a disgrace. Also the fact that every time one of these "revelations" (I quote becuase are they really surprising) come out people say "god how sad for this country both candidates are a disgrace" as if Hillary with all her faults are equal to the dumpster fire on the RNC side.

 

[the_mother_thing]

...as if Hillary with all her faults are equal to the dumpster fire on the RNC side.

I don't believe she is equal; I believe she is worse ... because her actions, her choices Impact me directly.

Funny how the stones being cast by some here ... all silent about her speech revelations yesterday ...just keep piling on Chump while turning a blind eye to your own candidate's continued deceitful behavior. Do ya'll even know which of HRC's many faces you support?

 

[sstephensid]

...as if Hillary with all her faults are equal to the dumpster fire on the RNC side.

I don't believe she is equal; I believe she is worse ... because her actions, her choices Impact me directly.

Funny how the stones being cast by some here ... all silent about her speech revelations yesterday ...just keep piling on Chump while turning a blind eye to your own candidate's continued deceitful behavior. Do ya'll even know which of HRC's many faces you support?

He said he starts kissing beautiful women without waiting. He grabs them by the p****. This isn't a sexual conquest story. This is him bragging he can sexually assault women because they are beautiful and he is rich/famous.

 

[House Cat]

...as if Hillary with all her faults are equal to the dumpster fire on the RNC side.

I don't believe she is equal; I believe she is worse ... because her actions, her choices Impact me directly.

Funny how the stones being cast by some here ... all silent about her speech revelations yesterday ...just keep piling on Chump while turning a blind eye to your own candidate's continued deceitful behavior. Do ya'll even know which of HRC's many faces you support?

Donald Trump hasn't had the opportunity to impact you directly...yet. He hasn't been a politician.

Although I believe declaring bankruptcy numerous times for hundreds of millions of dollars and putting that burden on the taxpayer actually DOES impact all of us personally.

 

[Niel]

...as if Hillary with all her faults are equal to the dumpster fire on the RNC side.

I don't believe she is equal; I believe she is worse ... because her actions, her choices Impact me directly.

Funny how the stones being cast by some here ... all silent about her speech revelations yesterday ...just keep piling on Chump while turning a blind eye to your own candidate's continued deceitful behavior. Do ya'll even know which of HRC's many faces you support?

My daughter has some developmental delays.

When I think about a president, someone little BOYS look up to as a roll model, mocking people with disabilities, proud of being a sexual predator, and choosing a running mate who wants to make abortion illegal, I fundamentally fear for her safety as an adult.
So I can't agree Hillary and her typical political maneuvering to be equal.

 

[momhappy]

Yes, what he and Billy Bush said was pretty gross, but certainly not a surprise.

 

[CJ2008]

We all have dark sides and thoughts.

All of us.

The difference is, most of us know where / when it's appropriate to let out those dark sides, or act on them.

And if the guy can't even hold back lewd comments about women or derogatory comments about disabled people when he's running for president and knows that everything he's saying and doing is being looked at with a magnifying glass and affects his chances of winning means that he'll be even less careful and feel more free to say whatever he wants when he is actually President.

Forget the fact that it would be embarrassing to have such a person as our President - but imagine what we'd have to tell our kids? Yes, Johnny, I know the President said that "she's a fat pig", or that he likes to grope beautiful women because he can, but those are not things you want to model.

It would just be so hard to do and so confusing. "But that's the President, mommy, and he does it! And he said it was OK!"

Like we need more messages out there about women's worth being tied only to how good looking they are, or being sexual objects for the taking, with all the issues there are already, rapes on college campuses, etc.

It just makes no sense.

 

[iLander]

MONKEY SEE, MONKEY DO

This is the danger of a Trump presidency. The brainless lowlifes out there will start to think they can "grab women in the p--". If he's elected we will ALL have to wear burkas, for our own protection.

I am now telling my DD when she leaves the house "Drive carefully, watch out for Trump supporters."

 

[iLander]

Yes, what he and Billy Bush said was pretty gross, but certainly not a surprise.

It should be. It should be shocking coming from a presidential candidate.

I was shocked, so I guess I actually thought more highly of him then you apparently did.

 

[iLander]

...as if Hillary with all her faults are equal to the dumpster fire on the RNC side.

I don't believe she is equal; I believe she is worse ... because her actions, her choices Impact me directly.

Funny how the stones being cast by some here ... all silent about her speech revelations yesterday ...just keep piling on Chump while turning a blind eye to your own candidate's continued deceitful behavior. Do ya'll even know which of HRC's many faces you support?

And you think Trump's egotistical, brainless, arrogant choices won't impact you directly because . . . ?

 

[arkieb1]

...as if Hillary with all her faults are equal to the dumpster fire on the RNC side.

I don't believe she is equal; I believe she is worse ... because her actions, her choices Impact me directly.

Funny how the stones being cast by some here ... all silent about her speech revelations yesterday ...just keep piling on Chump while turning a blind eye to your own candidate's continued deceitful behavior. Do ya'll even know which of HRC's many faces you support?

Put it out there, outline the worst of her "revelations" or the stuff about her you find "so shocking that is impacting you directly" and for every one of those things in Trumps private life I dare say there will be several examples of worse things he has said and done than she has..... If you think he wouldn't have groped women, gotten people killed, bribed people and lined his own pockets if he had of been secretary of state or done deceitful things for his own benefit if he had of been elected to any substantial role as a senator or member of congress, you are genuinely delusional.

We get it, you hate Hillary, she is a rubbish candidate. What we are saying is if you think everything she, Bill and Obama have all collectively done in the past is bad, if you elect him you "ain't seen nothing yet".... All of their very worse indiscretions will be an insignificant drop in the ocean compared to what this narcissistic clown can come up with. In fact as I keep pointing out if he wasn't a pseudo TV/Internet celebrity and was a normal person running for POTUS he would have been called out and removed long ago.