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The Trumpet 1-2-2017

AGBF|1483416305|4111775 said:
redwood66|1483413888|4111761 said:
Will wait with bated breath for tomorrow's installment Matata. :lol:






She still won't be on the podium on the 20th. :appl:

No, because Americans are idiots. Today I decided that if the Americans want to win back the presidency, they should run Oprah Winfrey as the democratic candidate for president in 2020. She is the only one who can beat Trump with the current crowd of simpleton American voters. She has wide recognition among television viewers and is popular. She is also trusted as a savvy businesswoman who could run the country because she made herself her own empire. Clearly she is qualified to run the US and be Commander-in-Chief.

I am actually serious that The Democrats should chase her down even though I am enormously cynical about how low we have fallen that we must, now, find television show hosts if we want to run successful presidential candidates.

AGBF :read:

My first introduction to Obama was the interview she did with him in -- 2006 or 2007? His book tour maybe? Can't remember. I thought him a very smooth operator. It was easy to see how people could fall for all of it. Government is corrupt on all sides. Nest of adders all, and I want the ones that will be fiscally responsible and stay out of the peoples' business.
 
redwood66|1483416174|4111774 said:
AGBF|1483415720|4111768 said:
I believe I posted somewhere on Pricescope about the CNA (certified nurse's aide) currently caring for my father who lost her state medical insurance because she is earning too much ($15,000 a year, I believe). She and I just watched "Sicko" together. I had seen it before. I was struck again by how totally reasonable the single payer system is and how well it works in civilized countries like Canada; Great Britain; and France. Anyone who hasn't seen it should see it immediately.

Deb/AGBF :read:

We had family friends in Germany and the husband came to Louisville, KY for a quadruple bypass for which he had to pay out of pocket. His wait for surgery in Germany was going to be at least 12 months. My mother flew back to stay with them for the surgery and recovery because the wife spoke about 3 words of English.

My best friend had to wait for several (maybe four?) excruciating months to get a hip replacement with a busy surgeon in Maine. And after the wait, it still wasn't free the way it would have been in Europe!
 
For my back surgery I spoke to hospital nurses to find out who to go to. I would rather pay for the best when someone has a scalpel next to my spinal cord than worry about free. He happened to have the worst bedside manner I have ever seen, but the nurses told me that ahead of time too. LOL.

I don't have the answers on healthcare, but the government doesn't seem to either. Spending money is the only thing they do really well.
 
AGBF|1483416305|4111775 said:
No, because Americans are idiots......... Trump with the current crowd of simpleton American voters.
Keep on calling people names if it makes you feel better.
If not liking Hillary and much of the liberal agenda makes me an idiot simpleton then I will wear it with pride.

Your idiot simpleton friend
Karl

hmmmmm
I dislike much of the republican agenda just as much as the liberal agenda.
Someone called call me a leftist because of it.
So I guess I should sign it.

Your right wing idiot simpleton leftist friend
Karl

Wait I am so confused....
So I guess I will just sign it......

Your friend
Karl
 
redwood66|1483416174|4111774 said:
AGBF|1483415720|4111768 said:
I believe I posted somewhere on Pricescope about the CNA (certified nurse's aide) currently caring for my father who lost her state medical insurance because she is earning too much ($15,000 a year, I believe). She and I just watched "Sicko" together. I had seen it before. I was struck again by how totally reasonable the single payer system is and how well it works in civilized countries like Canada; Great Britain; and France. Anyone who hasn't seen it should see it immediately.

Deb/AGBF :read:

We had family friends in Germany and the husband came to Louisville, KY for a quadruple bypass for which he had to pay out of pocket. His wait for surgery in Germany was going to be at least 12 months. My mother flew back to stay with them for the surgery and recovery because the wife spoke about 3 words of English.


My sister in law is from Vancouver her mom needed a hip replacement and she was scheduled when she chose to in 3 months.. she could have chosen any day she wanted but she had a visit from her son coming in a few months and wanted to do that before recovery. I've had 2 hip replacements and I had to wait 2 months for my first one in Texas... My sister in law, a native Canadian said: Care goes by need, no one has to wait for emergency care" Germany is not rated that poorly and has actually rated higher than the USA.

I find that the conservative/alt right media spread fake news about single payer system to influence low information voters into thinking the universal healthcare is going to kill them..

Wiki on German healthcare and waits: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Germany

If one needs a quadruple bypass and told to wait a year that is criminal.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/08/120806102132.htm

After 12 weeks one has a lower incidence of optimal outcome.

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/wait-times-for-heart-bypass-surgery-dramatically-reduced

more people need bypasses as our population(s) age increases. But 12 months is a death sentence in my opinion (and my sister in law is a pediatric cardiologist ((who is visiting me :) )

As I said, the alt right wing press over hypes wait times and outcomes, it's not free market :) you know.. Also try getting an operation if you live in rural areas of the USA, not as easy peasy as living in an urban area.

In all, all things are anecdotal... We will never KNOW if single payer system is better for America because republicans thwart it..

On average, the USA ranks below Canada, Britain, France and Germany for life span.

http://www.infoplease.com/world/statistics/life-expectancy-country.html

Single payer wouldn't hurt to try.
 
Karl_K|1483424360|4111807 said:
AGBF|1483416305|4111775 said:
No, because Americans are idiots......... Trump with the current crowd of simpleton American voters.
Keep on calling people names if it makes you feel better.
If not liking Hillary and much of the liberal agenda makes me an idiot simpleton then I will wear it with pride.

Your idiot simpleton friend
Karl

hmmmmm
I dislike much of the republican agenda just as much as the liberal agenda.
Someone called call me a leftist because of it.
So I guess I should sign it.

Your right wing idiot simpleton leftist friend
Karl

Wait I am so confused....
So I guess I will just sign it......

Your friend
Karl

Well, I'd place you more in the libertarian side of things from the little I have seen you post.

Signed,

Your arrogant, east coast, liberal, leftist snob friend,
Kate
 
Karl_K|1483424360|4111807 said:
AGBF|1483416305|4111775 said:
No, because Americans are idiots......... Trump with the current crowd of simpleton American voters.

Keep on calling people names if it makes you feel better.
If not liking Hillary and much of the liberal agenda makes me an idiot simpleton then I will wear it with pride.

Your idiot simpleton friend
Karl

You know I didn't mean you and that I never would have singled you out and named you as unintelligent, Karl. I have tried not to tar the Americans who voted for Trump and Pence with one brush, but I am getting more and more frustrated as I read the news and see the damage being done to international relations by President-elect Trump.

I believe it made me feel better for a second to write that Trump supporters were idiots and simpletons (if you actually care about how my voicing my thoughts affects my emotions), but the beneficial effects were not long lasting. I may as well have taken the high road as Michelle Obama advises. Calling names won't get Trump out of office or affect the attitude of the American voter.

I do not believe that the "problem" that got Trump elected over Clinton was anything that was wrong with Obama's legacy, however. I believe that the problem was that Trump was able to persuade many blue collar people that he would do what he absolutely will never do: work for their interests above those of the wealthy. I believe he is the ultimate con man. He put on a great show, but now the 1% will benefit and the middle class will lose out. The middle class did not vote its interests. They just voted out a lot of their rights to medical insurance.

AGBF
 
Tekate|1483454900|4111860 said:
As I said, the alt right wing press over hypes wait times and outcomes, it's not free market :) you know.. Also try getting an operation if you live in rural areas of the USA, not as easy peasy as living in an urban area.

In all, all things are anecdotal... We will never KNOW if single payer system is better for America because republicans thwart it..

On average, the USA ranks below Canada, Britain, France and Germany for life span.

http://www.infoplease.com/world/statistics/life-expectancy-country.html

Single payer wouldn't hurt to try.

If the government's ability to run healthcare example of the Veterans Administration is the best they can do then I do not want them to attempt a single-payer system. There have been plenty of cases of dying while waiting. So much so that it needed investigation and Obama agrees that the VA is not working to the benefit of the patients. None of this gives me any hope that government could or should even attempt to manage a behemoth such as healthcare. The countries you have cited have populations much smaller than the US.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/10/12/obamas-claim-a-whole-bunch-of-people-who-are-in-charge-of-va-facilities-were-fired-over-wait-times/


ETA - the example I gave was a personal one, not a right-wing anything. It was in the 1990's but still relevant to the discussion. If Germany has gotten better that is great. But per your wiki link they have had healthcare since 1883 so you would think they would have it down by now.

And if Obamacare is so great, why are members of Congress not also on it? They should have been forced to just like the rest of the country.
 
redwood66|1483459715|4111884 said:
Here is what the government taking care of everything will cost you.

Tax Rates in Europe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_rates_in_Europe

Several of the countries on that list -- Denmark, Switzerland, Norway, Finland, Iceland et al -- are consistently listed as the "happiest countries in the world."

The formula for all-encompassing government care is to also have a thriving economy. I would gladly pay 50% in taxes for affordable housing, free education and health care, 1 yr paid maternity leave for both father and mother and all the other good stuff that comes with it. The residents of some of these countries get 6 wks paid vacation each year and have enough money to travel throughout the world on their leisure time. Every documentary I've seen interviewing residents of a few of these countries say they do not mind the taxes because of the services provided and that they have sufficient money for all other expenses.

We are tax adverse in the US because the money isn't spent wisely. There's insufficient accountability for the funds. We brag about being the greatest nation on earth yet fail to provide marginal services to our most needy.
 
Matata|1483461499|4111889 said:
redwood66|1483459715|4111884 said:
Here is what the government taking care of everything will cost you.

Tax Rates in Europe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_rates_in_Europe

Several of the countries on that list -- Denmark, Switzerland, Norway, Finland, Iceland et al -- are consistently listed as the "happiest countries in the world."

The formula for all-encompassing government care is to also have a thriving economy. I would gladly pay 50% in taxes for affordable housing, free education and health care, 1 yr paid maternity leave for both father and mother and all the other good stuff that comes with it. The residents of some of these countries get 6 wks paid vacation each year and have enough money to travel throughout the world on their leisure time. Every documentary I've seen interviewing residents of a few of these countries say they do not mind the taxes because of the services provided and that they have sufficient money for all other expenses.

We are tax adverse in the US because the money isn't spent wisely. There's insufficient accountability for the funds. We brag about being the greatest nation on earth yet fail to provide marginal services to our most needy.

The bolded is the crux of my entire opinion of government. That and my view of the role of government in peoples' lives. We do not exist to serve the government.
 
ummm, having lived in several countries, I have to say that it's not very well I informed to single out THAT system as non functional. Everything is free, wait times are absolutely minimal and if someone wants / needs a super specialised treatment, you have the right to pick any specialist you want. It's still free. If THAT person has a long wait, that's your choice. If you want to have a specialist in the US, still your
choice, but not covered by insurance (obviously). Many foreigners go there for top notch treatment as well. Even if they have to pay everything out of pocket, it's often much cheaper than the US (different legal system, hence lower insurance cost, lower /regulated salaries for medical staff)
If you try to find a bad example regarding a healthcare system you need to look elsewhere...
 
kipari I am not sure who you are speaking to or to what country you are referring as far as THAT system? :wavey:
 
Matata|1483413050|4111757 said:
Not that this is in preparation for, I dunno, conflicts of interest or, dare I say, ethics violations on a grand scale or anything.

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/02/us/politics/with-no-warning-house-republicans-vote-to-hobble-independent-ethics-office.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

It appears Trump did not agree with this either and they are reversing this - based on a tweet no less. Are you going to bash him for that too?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
 
redwood66|1483474049|4111961 said:
Matata|1483413050|4111757 said:
Not that this is in preparation for, I dunno, conflicts of interest or, dare I say, ethics violations on a grand scale or anything.

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/02/us/politics/with-no-warning-house-republicans-vote-to-hobble-independent-ethics-office.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

It appears Trump did not agree with this either and they are reversing this - based on a tweet no less. Are you going to bash him for that too?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Not going to bash him. News sources are citing public pressure as the reason the reps folded but we know that's not true. Fear of Trump made them fold. Winning through fear and intimidation is quicker than diplomacy. And note that it's not a dead issue, just tabled.
 
Matata|1483474397|4111962 said:
redwood66|1483474049|4111961 said:
Matata|1483413050|4111757 said:
Not that this is in preparation for, I dunno, conflicts of interest or, dare I say, ethics violations on a grand scale or anything.

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/02/us/politics/with-no-warning-house-republicans-vote-to-hobble-independent-ethics-office.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

It appears Trump did not agree with this either and they are reversing this - based on a tweet no less. Are you going to bash him for that too?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Not going to bash him. News sources are citing public pressure as the reason the reps folded but we know that's not true. Fear of Trump made them fold. Winning through fear and intimidation is quicker than diplomacy. And note that it's not a dead issue, just tabled.

Not sure where the "winning through fear and intimidation" comes about. Calling something wrong, like you did in the link post, in the shortest possible manner, tweeting, seems to be an effective way for Trump to let the whole world know his view. If Obama does not agree with something he lets people know. Trump just does it in a tweet. Do you think that Obama doesn't try to intimidate from his office? Come on. Seriously?
 
The healthcare tidbits always make me LOL a bit on here.

The americans I've spoken to about our healthcare system seem to think that it works as such: 2 people are waiting in line. The first person has a paper cut, the second person is having a heart attack. The second person has to wait until the first gets their bandaid and goes on their way, and subsequently dies waiting. This is not how it works! If you need urgent care, you receive it, and receive it quickly. The person who needs it the most urgently gets pushed to the front. This is what the republicans don't like - budgers!

Elective surgeries have an average wait time of 18 weeks - This is from the moment you go to your doctor to get a referral, to making the apt with a specialist, to getting the surgery. I just looked it up, and some provinces are shorter (13 weeks), some are longer (22 wks). I mention this, because it is elective, but that's what people think our entire system is like.

Our drug costs are much lower. US companies actually buy from Canadian pharmacies because ours are so much cheaper. I've only ever met 1 person who worked for a company that didn't provide extended benefits (dentist, optometrist, etc). VS hearing about how people goto mexico to see a dentist.

RE taxes - In Denmark, kids actually get PAID to go to university. It's not a lot, like $1000/mon, but that's on top of free education. Instead of stressing about how f&cked youre going to be after graduating college with $50k in debt, they get to focus on school, do something they enjoy, and start making money right out of college. That's a monumental stepping stone! But yes, that comes at a cost. I'd gladly pay more in taxes to be able to take that stress off of people. Taxes also provide paid mat leave - I feel spoiled, in Canada we get 52 weeks, but its not fully paid. Denmark has 52 weeks fully paid mat leave. 100% of your wages while you're home taking care of baby! There are a TON of benefits to higher taxes, but people would rather put their blinders on lol.
 
redwood66|1483475525|4111969 said:
Matata|1483474397|4111962 said:
redwood66|1483474049|4111961 said:
Matata|1483413050|4111757 said:
Not that this is in preparation for, I dunno, conflicts of interest or, dare I say, ethics violations on a grand scale or anything.

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/02/us/politics/with-no-warning-house-republicans-vote-to-hobble-independent-ethics-office.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

It appears Trump did not agree with this either and they are reversing this - based on a tweet no less. Are you going to bash him for that too?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Not going to bash him. News sources are citing public pressure as the reason the reps folded but we know that's not true. Fear of Trump made them fold. Winning through fear and intimidation is quicker than diplomacy. And note that it's not a dead issue, just tabled.

Not sure where the "winning through fear and intimidation" comes about. Calling something wrong, like you did in the link post, in the shortest possible manner, tweeting, seems to be an effective way for Trump to let the whole world know his view. If Obama does not agree with something he lets people know. Trump just does it in a tweet. Do you think that Obama doesn't try to intimidate from his office? Come on. Seriously?

Trump's words and actions are ample evidence of the glee with which he trolls and demeans his enemies (anyone who doesn't agree with him). There has been nothing from Obama that compares.

There are national and global security reasons why the whole world should not be privy to the view of any world leader and especially one who flip flops on issues as frequently as he does. Can you not see the inherent dangers?
 
Trump didn't disagree with the gutting, either. He disagreed with the timing, with it being a priority.

The fact that anyone would be FOR this at any time is alarming. Can you imagine the outrage if it had been the Dems?

That's one of the areas the Rs beat us in every time: outrage. Organized outrage. We need to get much better about this.

I'm glad they backed off. There was apparently a flood of calls from incensed citizens and quite a few republicans against it, too. GOOD.
 
Now that's what I'm talkin' about.

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Matata|1483476558|4111982 said:
redwood66|1483475525|4111969 said:
Matata|1483474397|4111962 said:
redwood66|1483474049|4111961 said:
Matata|1483413050|4111757 said:
Not that this is in preparation for, I dunno, conflicts of interest or, dare I say, ethics violations on a grand scale or anything.

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/02/us/politics/with-no-warning-house-republicans-vote-to-hobble-independent-ethics-office.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

It appears Trump did not agree with this either and they are reversing this - based on a tweet no less. Are you going to bash him for that too?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Not going to bash him. News sources are citing public pressure as the reason the reps folded but we know that's not true. Fear of Trump made them fold. Winning through fear and intimidation is quicker than diplomacy. And note that it's not a dead issue, just tabled.

Not sure where the "winning through fear and intimidation" comes about. Calling something wrong, like you did in the link post, in the shortest possible manner, tweeting, seems to be an effective way for Trump to let the whole world know his view. If Obama does not agree with something he lets people know. Trump just does it in a tweet. Do you think that Obama doesn't try to intimidate from his office? Come on. Seriously?

Trump's words and actions are ample evidence of the glee with which he trolls and demeans his enemies (anyone who doesn't agree with him). There has been nothing from Obama that compares.

There are national and global security reasons why the whole world should not be privy to the view of any world leader and especially one who flip flops on issues as frequently as he does. Can you not see the inherent dangers?

We were discussing the independent ethics committee, not global security. You can sure jump from one topic to another quickly. I am worried about your health because so much stress affects a person negatively. ;))
 
E B|1483477116|4111989 said:
Now that's what I'm talkin' about.

screen_shot_2017-01-03_at_3_1.png

That is how its done and hopefully the Reps are listening to their constituents. IMO nothing like this should ever be done in secret.
 
redwood66|1483477303|4111991 said:
E B|1483477116|4111989 said:
Now that's what I'm talkin' about.

screen_shot_2017-01-03_at_3_1.png

That is how its done and hopefully the Reps are listening to their constituents. IMO nothing like this should ever be done in secret.

Agreed.
 
redwood66|1483477148|4111990 said:
Matata|1483476558|4111982 said:
redwood66|1483475525|4111969 said:
Matata|1483474397|4111962 said:
redwood66|1483474049|4111961 said:
Matata|1483413050|4111757 said:
Not that this is in preparation for, I dunno, conflicts of interest or, dare I say, ethics violations on a grand scale or anything.

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/02/us/politics/with-no-warning-house-republicans-vote-to-hobble-independent-ethics-office.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

It appears Trump did not agree with this either and they are reversing this - based on a tweet no less. Are you going to bash him for that too?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Not going to bash him. News sources are citing public pressure as the reason the reps folded but we know that's not true. Fear of Trump made them fold. Winning through fear and intimidation is quicker than diplomacy. And note that it's not a dead issue, just tabled.

Not sure where the "winning through fear and intimidation" comes about. Calling something wrong, like you did in the link post, in the shortest possible manner, tweeting, seems to be an effective way for Trump to let the whole world know his view. If Obama does not agree with something he lets people know. Trump just does it in a tweet. Do you think that Obama doesn't try to intimidate from his office? Come on. Seriously?

Trump's words and actions are ample evidence of the glee with which he trolls and demeans his enemies (anyone who doesn't agree with him). There has been nothing from Obama that compares.

There are national and global security reasons why the whole world should not be privy to the view of any world leader and especially one who flip flops on issues as frequently as he does. Can you not see the inherent dangers?

We were discussing the independent ethics committee, not global security.
You can sure jump from one topic to another quickly. I am worried about your health because so much stress affects a person negatively. ;))
I was responding to your apparent admiration for tweets as a form of governing. If I want to reduce my stress, I'll stop reading your posts, but for now, I'm ok. Thanks for your concern. :halo:
 
Matata|1483479377|4112003 said:
redwood66|1483477148|4111990 said:
Matata|1483476558|4111982 said:
redwood66|1483475525|4111969 said:
Matata|1483474397|4111962 said:
redwood66|1483474049|4111961 said:
Matata|1483413050|4111757 said:
Not that this is in preparation for, I dunno, conflicts of interest or, dare I say, ethics violations on a grand scale or anything.

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/02/us/politics/with-no-warning-house-republicans-vote-to-hobble-independent-ethics-office.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

It appears Trump did not agree with this either and they are reversing this - based on a tweet no less. Are you going to bash him for that too?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Not going to bash him. News sources are citing public pressure as the reason the reps folded but we know that's not true. Fear of Trump made them fold. Winning through fear and intimidation is quicker than diplomacy. And note that it's not a dead issue, just tabled.

Not sure where the "winning through fear and intimidation" comes about. Calling something wrong, like you did in the link post, in the shortest possible manner, tweeting, seems to be an effective way for Trump to let the whole world know his view. If Obama does not agree with something he lets people know. Trump just does it in a tweet. Do you think that Obama doesn't try to intimidate from his office? Come on. Seriously?

Trump's words and actions are ample evidence of the glee with which he trolls and demeans his enemies (anyone who doesn't agree with him). There has been nothing from Obama that compares.

There are national and global security reasons why the whole world should not be privy to the view of any world leader and especially one who flip flops on issues as frequently as he does. Can you not see the inherent dangers?

We were discussing the independent ethics committee, not global security.
You can sure jump from one topic to another quickly. I am worried about your health because so much stress affects a person negatively. ;))
I was responding to your apparent admiration for tweets as a form of governing. If I want to reduce my stress, I'll stop reading your posts, but for now, I'm ok. Thanks for your concern. :halo:

Aw that hurts my feelings. I thought we were doing great!? ;))
 
redwood66|1483479622|4112006 said:
Matata|1483479377|4112003 said:
redwood66|1483477148|4111990 said:
Matata|1483476558|4111982 said:
redwood66|1483475525|4111969 said:
Matata|1483474397|4111962 said:
redwood66|1483474049|4111961 said:
Matata|1483413050|4111757 said:
Not that this is in preparation for, I dunno, conflicts of interest or, dare I say, ethics violations on a grand scale or anything.

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/02/us/politics/with-no-warning-house-republicans-vote-to-hobble-independent-ethics-office.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

It appears Trump did not agree with this either and they are reversing this - based on a tweet no less. Are you going to bash him for that too?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Not going to bash him. News sources are citing public pressure as the reason the reps folded but we know that's not true. Fear of Trump made them fold. Winning through fear and intimidation is quicker than diplomacy. And note that it's not a dead issue, just tabled.

Not sure where the "winning through fear and intimidation" comes about. Calling something wrong, like you did in the link post, in the shortest possible manner, tweeting, seems to be an effective way for Trump to let the whole world know his view. If Obama does not agree with something he lets people know. Trump just does it in a tweet. Do you think that Obama doesn't try to intimidate from his office? Come on. Seriously?

Trump's words and actions are ample evidence of the glee with which he trolls and demeans his enemies (anyone who doesn't agree with him). There has been nothing from Obama that compares.

There are national and global security reasons why the whole world should not be privy to the view of any world leader and especially one who flip flops on issues as frequently as he does. Can you not see the inherent dangers?

We were discussing the independent ethics committee, not global security.
You can sure jump from one topic to another quickly. I am worried about your health because so much stress affects a person negatively. ;))
I was responding to your apparent admiration for tweets as a form of governing. If I want to reduce my stress, I'll stop reading your posts, but for now, I'm ok. Thanks for your concern. :halo:

Aw that hurts my feelings. I thought we were doing great!? ;))

We are doing great. This is great for us. My birthday is on the 29th. Did you buy me something yet?
 
No I didn't but you will understand because I am a retired old lady on a fixed income. I can make you something.
 
redwood66|1483480026|4112013 said:
No I didn't but you will understand because I am a retired old lady on a fixed income. I can make you something.

Chocolate chip cookies with real milk chocolate not those icky dark chocolate things that look like turds and REAL butter, salted, REAL salted butter, and sugar not an artificial sweetener and lots of vanilla, REAL vanilla, not that imitation stuff that tastes like it came from a wild animal's bladder and pecans, no walnuts, no almonds, yes almonds, oh, and drizzle a little caramel over the tops of the cookies.
 
Matata|1483480559|4112017 said:
redwood66|1483480026|4112013 said:
No I didn't but you will understand because I am a retired old lady on a fixed income. I can make you something.

Chocolate chip cookies with real milk chocolate not those icky dark chocolate things that look like turds and REAL butter, salted, REAL salted butter, and sugar not an artificial sweetener and lots of vanilla, REAL vanilla, not that imitation stuff that tastes like it came from a wild animal's bladder and pecans, no walnuts, no almonds, yes almonds, oh, and drizzle a little caramel over the tops of the cookies.

I don't use any fake stuff of any kind. But you are the demanding sort. :lol:
 
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