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Interesting!
 
How''s this going to work in my circa 1940s house with hand-plastered ceilings? :)

Seriously, I remember this coming up in another forum and asking Storm how this lighting change will affect diamond performance/appearance. If I remember right, Storm, you commented that step cuts and other cuts with larger facets will perform better under this type of lighting than will cuts with smaller facets. Am I remembering this right?
 
Not in my apartment! We''ll be using these.
 
Date: 7/17/2009 11:39:29 AM
Author: glitterata

Not in my apartment! We'll be using these.
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maybe but unlikely for long.
CA is already considering toughening the laws that the federal law is modeled on.
It is likely to happen and the feds will follow.
The infrastructure savings are just to hard to say no to.
They have every intention of moving the target as technology comes online.
They can maybe give them 5 years extra sales life in CA 8 nationally.
 
Date: 7/17/2009 11:26:13 AM
Author: sarap333
How''s this going to work in my circa 1940s house with hand-plastered ceilings? :)


Seriously, I remember this coming up in another forum and asking Storm how this lighting change will affect diamond performance/appearance. If I remember right, Storm, you commented that step cuts and other cuts with larger facets will perform better under this type of lighting than will cuts with smaller facets. Am I remembering this right?
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stock up in 2011 maybe 2014 with the new tech bulbs.

yes larger VF''s will be an advantage.
Today''s well cut RB''s have a chance to still perform decently(but not the best) but the princess and radiant are going to be hurting.
 
Date: 7/17/2009 11:33:46 AM
Author: Ellen

Date: 7/17/2009 10:33:36 AM
Author:strmrdr
Is one step closer.

http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/07/16/oled-breakthrough-yields-75-more-efficient-lights/

One day your entire ceiling will be covered with a thin plastic film.
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That thought really doesn''t thrill me too much. But the projected savings do....
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Oh BIG FAT DITTO to that.
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Why does all this eco-stuff have to be so ugly? My husband is so proud of our rain barrel and our composter, and to me the rain barrel looks like a super-size version of one of those white plastic refillable cups they sell at gas stations, and the composter looks like R2D2 in Star Wars. Can''t somebody design this stuff so it at least blends in with the setting it''s in? Sorry for the rant, but sheesh, if we can put a man on the moon...
 
Well, it can be designed to anything you want. A thin flat plastic OLED can simply be molded to a bulb shape if you really want it that way, as long as you have the $$ or there is a market for it, it will be possible, not impossible.

Similarly with the compost bin or rain barrel, as long as there is a market for it, blended design will out in the market. If not, no reason to design it.
 
That's good to know, Stone-cold. I can't wait until some smart designer figures out how to market an "eco-chic" line -- like an IKEA for environmentally friendly products. Until then, I'll be molding my lighting film into light bulb shapes :)
 
The light from those things is ugly. Why is it legal for people to drive SUVs & watch enormous TVs in every room of their McMansions while watering their useless lawn with precious water, but illegal for me to light my room with a pleasant lightbulb that uses one zillionth of the energy they waste?
 
Date: 7/17/2009 11:40:31 PM
Author: glitterata
The light from those things is ugly. Why is it legal for people to drive SUVs & watch enormous TVs in every room of their McMansions while watering their useless lawn with precious water, but illegal for me to light my room with a pleasant lightbulb that uses one zillionth of the energy they waste?
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because by starting with new construction and phasing it in over time for existing homes they could boil the frog slowly and most people won't make a fuss about it.
CFLs already have a large part of the market so the first phase doesn't upset a lot of people.
 
CFLs are hideous. I would rather sit in the dark.
 
Date: 7/18/2009 12:59:38 AM
Author: glitterata
CFLs are hideous. I would rather sit in the dark.
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Me too. I''ve tried them several times but either they make the room a yellowy green I call swamp light or I feel like I''m at the police station waiting to be interrogated. Not to mention the disposal issue.
 
Well, there are different color temperatures bulbs sold. Maybe choose one that suits you better? CFLs are not created to the same specs.
 
I''ve tried all the colors. They''re all hideous. It''s the nature of the light. It''s missing some bits of the spectrum, so it looks different from incandescence, no matter what color they make it.

Some people don''t notice the difference, but to those of us that do, it''s unmistakable. It makes my home look like a fake TV set.

I''m otherwise quite careful about not wasting energy. I don''t own a car. I use fans instead of air conditioners. I buy antique jewelry
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. But I hate the light from CFL bulbs, and I''m sure the new stuff will have the same problem of ugly light.
 
Hmm.. try the High Output CFL? in the region of 23-26W. There are full spectrum CFL too, have you tried those?
 
The real problem is that I won''t be able to see all the colors of my alexandrite!
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We converted the entire house the CFLs a year ago.
I love them.

I went to Home Depot and bought a sample of all three "shades" of white.

I tried them out all over the house and went with the warmest shade in the bathroom and bedrooms but the coolest (daylight) shade for the kitchen.

Then I returned the bulbs I didn''t want.

Our electric bill went way down.
 
I''m with Glitterata on this one. The "glow" that the new technology bulbs give off is just weird. And that "glow" is part of my rant about eco-friendly products not being visually appealing. So maybe if enough of us complain, the technology will evolve to the point where it will be able to capture the full spectrum of color.

I live in a small-footprint vintage house; we have a huge garden; my husband bikes or buses to work; I drive a 40+ mpg car when I do need to drive, and telecommute the rest of the time. We have CFLs in the basement and garage, not in our living spaces. I just can''t live with the eerie glow, especially in the winter when the days are so dark and short here.

Hey, Moh, I''m glad your electric bill went down, but you didn''t tell us, what do the diamonds in your house look like under the CFL''s? :) We need a full report!
 
Whoops ==
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finally got the emoties to work on my Mac.
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Storm, always thinking many steps ahead and on the cutting edge.

I so admire your brain. Really.
 
Date: 7/18/2009 12:14:54 PM
Author: sonomacounty
Storm, always thinking many steps ahead and on the cutting edge.


I so admire your brain. Really.
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Ditto! All kidding aside about the appearance of CFLs and eco-friendly products, I really do appreciate Storm keeping us informed of the technological advances in lighting, virtual facets and pavilion mains research, and, of course, P3 angles. Cool stuff! Thanks, Storm!
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*blush* thanks for the kind words

It is my pleasure I find this stuff way kewl :}
 
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