The eyes have it....?

[forlackof]

Long time lurker, first time poster I truly appreciate this forum and everyone''s postings. I''m in the market for an engagement ring and have already learned a great deal through your help... many thanks.

I''m looking at these two stones'' Ideal Scope and am posting my thoughts for your comment...

D1
D2

D1 looks like a better Ideal Scope as it seemingly has a sharper contrast and symmetry compared with D2. However notice in the bottom right between 4 and 5 o''clock there is a significant white return. Both diamonds are ideal cut,both AGS reports list additional clouds not shown, HCA .7 and .9 respectively. D1 is a VS2, D2 is a VS1, though the Ideal Scope in D2 looks somewhat sloppy for lack of a better term.

Seemingly all else being equal (besides price) - is D1 a better diamond given my perceived better IS symmetry even with this strange white return and lower cut grade, or D2 without the white return and what looks a bit more loose symmetry?

 

[beach]

This is a tough call. This is really splitting hairs here and both are great stones!!! Will that one white spot bother you? The second stone has an awesome ideal scope image too but you are paying a little premium for the Vs1.... I would have whiteflash help you decide. They can see both stones at the same time and will not stear you the wrong way. i emailed them about a cut above stone stone I have on hold and asked if i should pay 10000 more for another stone that they have with a higher color. She said no way and that my stone is better and that I will not see the color difference. Whiteflash is honest..... Both these stone were just released so act fast with whatever you do.... Sometimes people see these posts and snag diamonds

 

[neatfreak]

I''d ask Whiteflash to look at them side by side and tell you which one looks better in person. They both look nice to me!

 

[forlackof]

Thanks - have just asked for WF''s opinion. Waiting to hear a response...

 

[forlackof]

Admittedly I don''t know the protocol, but incredibly fast response...

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Thank you for contacting us here at www.whiteflash.com.

Both of the diamonds you have identified will be eye clean according to our definition:

http://www.whiteflash.com/diamonds_info/t/faq.aspx?articleid=403&zoneid=6

If you will feel more comfortable going with a VS1 then we support that decision although we feel that either stone would be an excellent choice.

Please let me know how you found Whiteflash and when you will be making your purchase? I would call now but am concerned about disturbing you this late at night.

I look forward to hearing back from you and to helping you with this very special purchase.

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Don''t know, though I don''t suspect this is automated. Must say that in the arena of customer service WF is very responsive as attest to others reported.

 

[arjunajane]

It doesn't sound like an automated reply at all.
If you feel the info is not sufficient, just say so . Determine some of what your priorities are (sparkle, coloured fire, etc), and perhaps ask more detailed questions about the performance?

As mentioned, they will both bo good.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 11/18/2008 11:22:16 PM
Author:forlackof
Long time lurker, first time poster I truly appreciate this forum and everyone's postings. I'm in the market for an engagement ring and have already learned a great deal through your help... many thanks.

I'm looking at these two stones' Ideal Scope and am posting my thoughts for your comment...

D1
D2

D1 looks like a better Ideal Scope as it seemingly has a sharper contrast and symmetry compared with D2. However notice in the bottom right between 4 and 5 o'clock there is a significant white return. Both diamonds are ideal cut,both AGS reports list additional clouds not shown, HCA .7 and .9 respectively. D1 is a VS2, D2 is a VS1, though the Ideal Scope in D2 looks somewhat sloppy for lack of a better term.

Seemingly all else being equal (besides price) - is D1 a better diamond given my perceived better IS symmetry even with this strange white return and lower cut grade, or D2 without the white return and what looks a bit more loose symmetry?

The symmetry is top notch in each diamond - no worries. Go with the one you like best. Also the IS image in #2 is absolutely fine.

 

[honey22]

WF would definately not have an automated response that indicates that a stone is eyeclean!! They would have verified that by eye before sending that email. WF is incredibly trustworthy and their service is out of this world.

Looks like great stones, don't forget to post pics when you get it! I honestly wouldn't pay the extra money for the jump in clarity especially since they are both eyeclean, you should be fine with a AGS VS2, I can't even find the inclusion in my VS2 with a loupe!! Why pay that much for something you can't see?

With the extra money, you could get her some gorgeous ACA studs to match her new ering.

 

[amyjokerette]

Date: 11/19/2008 1:18:23 AM
Author: forlackof
Admittedly I don''t know the protocol, but incredibly fast response...


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Thank you for contacting us here at www.whiteflash.com.



Both of the diamonds you have identified will be eye clean according to our definition:



http://www.whiteflash.com/diamonds_info/t/faq.aspx?articleid=403&zoneid=6



If you will feel more comfortable going with a VS1 then we support that decision although we feel that either stone would be an excellent choice.



Please let me know how you found Whiteflash and when you will be making your purchase? I would call now but am concerned about disturbing you this late at night.



I look forward to hearing back from you and to helping you with this very special purchase.


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Don''t know, though I don''t suspect this is automated. Must say that in the arena of customer service WF is very responsive as attest to others reported.

Whiteflash offers a discount to PS''ers!!!

See this thread. https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/whiteflash-referral-or-discount.43436/

 

[forlackof]

Thanks to all for the reply. I''m just amazed at how fast the response was, shame on me for belittling WF''s outstanding customer service!

Based on your comments I''m taking away that there''s really no difference between the two Ideal Scopes and both stones are equal. Still curious what the white leakage is in D1.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 11/19/2008 9:40:58 AM
Author: forlackof
Thanks to all for the reply. I'm just amazed at how fast the response was, shame on me for belittling WF's outstanding customer service!

Based on your comments I'm taking away that there's really no difference between the two Ideal Scopes and both stones are equal. Still curious what the white leakage is in D1.

That could be ' intentional leakage' which can help provide contrast in the diamond, nothing to worry about and in some cases the diamond can benefit from this.