The Emerald Cut Three Stone revival

[quaddio]

This was my ring. https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/loving-my-3-stone-ec.170157/ and pictured

It was my 'signature' accessory, the first piece I ever bought - a RHR. It's no longer in my possession and I can't get over it. Even the beautiful alternative (see profile) was only on my finger a few weeks. The gorgeous transitional was expensive so I'd need to think carefully about a new emerald cut three stone. With the original I was budget-conscious since I wasn't 100% sure I'd love it. That's no longer an issue so should I go bigger (pricescope influence) or choose higher quality diamonds (original EGLs had inclusions from 6 inches but very white). Also I was considering yellow gold with white prongs, it's less expensive than platinum.

Original specs:
Center .85 sides are 1.2
E-G, VS1-SI1 EGL
In super-heavy platinum (10g) size 5.5

 

[SB621]

Personally I would typically say go bigger but I actually really LOVE the proportions you have in the picture. Can you go to a store and try on some other 3 stones to see how you feel about size?

Honestly for a RHR if you want to be budget friendly I wouldn't get higher quality diamonds- but that is just me. My 3 stone RHR has a I1 center due a large inclusion that is mostly hid under a prong (the rest blends in with the color). I know EC are hard because clarity can be an issue but how do you feel about going down in color a little? I think a slightly warmer EC 3 stone would be devine!!!! Especially if you did unplated white gold or yellow gold prongs.

As far as WG/YG vs. PLAT I would wait to see about quotes before you make a final choice. Have you thought about what vendors you would use or would you go with someone local?

 

[quaddio]

Personally I would typically say go bigger but I actually really LOVE the proportions you have in the picture. Can you go to a store and try on some other 3 stones to see how you feel about size?

Am I reading this right - thought this was Pricescope! I'm so glad you like the proportions. The trouble with store items is the side stones are always much smaller with a larger center stone ring.

If I went bigger I would not alter the ratio between center and sides. Some ratios by carat - maybe I need to calculate by area to ensure I keep proportions:
.72 1.02 .72 (20% larger)
.84 1.2 .84 (40% larger)
.90 1.27 .90 (50% larger)
.96 1.36 .96 (60% larger)

Re: color, I don't think I can do it. My transitional is warm and it suits the antique piece but for this kind of ring I think white is best and would stick with near-colorless or above. Using a pricescope vendor would mean changing to smaller proportions to stay in budget. It will be a CAD piece, I'd get a few quotes then decide - DBL, ERD would be on the list, any other suggestions?

 

[heididdl]

i just loved your ring . But in remaking it I would stay similar or bump it up slightly. as a PS I would use one of the vendors set your budget let them reconstruct it as close as they can. If they can size it up within your budget then all the better. Go for white gold as platinum pricey but as you said see how the vendor budgets it. I would try GOG or DBL.......Can't wait to see what you decide

 

[woofmama]

I read your post in Hangout about mourning the loss of the original ring. I'm glad to see you're ready to rebuild it I'm a step-cut lover and think the proportions of your original really worked well. I voted to have a PS vendor remake it for you.

I would contact GOG-Jon is known for picking beautiful step cuts and will make a video for you with options.
FYI-My EC is a K and faces up beautifully white. Not icy white of course but it does not under any circumstances look yellow or tinted. The only time I see color is in my car, which has a beige interior so maybe it's reflecting that. I'm guessing the diamonds in your original ring were at least 2-3 shades lower than what GIA would grade due to being EGL graded.

I'm actually shopping for an asscher right now in the J-K-L range. After taking the chance on original EC in K and being very happy with it I have no problem with lower color step cuts.

 

[quaddio]

I just did some searching on James Allen to get an idea of prices. Even in the original size I don't think I can justify remaking the whole ring right now. The temp center stone seems like the best option for now, regardless of vendor choice. I could consider selling the vintage ring to fund the project but I think I'd rather wait.

Thanks for the advice regarding lower color and recommending sticking with the original proportions, I always had a few doubts because it was not the usual ratio.

Any suggestions for a budget - with / without center?

 

[marcy]

Your original ring was lovely and looks right to me size and ratio. I would look in to having it remade and use WG to save some money. If you work with an online vendor I am sure they can find you diamonds that face up white.

 

[motownmama]

Love the old ring. I'd replicate it. If anything, I'd do a colored center to reduce the cost

 

[quaddio]

Any thoughts about this ebay item?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-01-ct-Cen...t=Diamond_Solitaire_Rings&hash=item3a736b4361

 

[Mayk]

I'm not one of the experts... But I think it's very pretty.... I think you will get some feedback about the size of the table..but still might be worth a look for the right price. The sides are a nice compliment to the center as far as size goes...

 

[chrono]

I wish I could say yes to the eBay 3 stone EC ring but the center stone has large leakage areas where I can see through it.

 

[quaddio]

i stumbled upon this vintage ring which could be a contender for replacing my EC 3stone. Any comments about it? $11k seems way overpriced, especially for an uncertified piece. On the positive side it's in my size. I pasted a photo from the website but there are more at the link below.

[url=http://www.newyorkestatejewel...diamond-platinum-engagement-ring/14671/3/item[/url]

 

[arkieb1]

Have you also considered turning your transitional into a 3 stone so it in the middle and two smaller sides as another option.... Although if its the EC that you miss that probably won't make you happy!!!

 

[ecf8503]

I might consider going down in color a bit. I am color sensitive, and tend to prefer whiter stones, but I recently got a J colored EC from JA, and I'm actually very happy with the color! It faces up pretty white, really only noticeable next to my D or G, but it really does hold it's own.

If you like the proportions, you also need to take into consideration the actual dimensions of the side stones. They need to be matched in l/w, not necessarily carat weight, as stones of the same carat weights will often times have different l/w due to depth, crown height, etc. And finding one that echoes the center... well I'd let someone like GOG or DBL source everything for you to help ensure good matches.

As for the setting, you need to take into consideration what it was you loved about the original - the weight of the metal? The lines of the setting? etc. If you have more pics it may help your future vendor find or design a similar setting.

Have you considered 14k gold? It stays whiter than 18k, so it needs to be replated less often, and is cheaper!

 

[marymm]

Honestly I think that Israel Rose 3-stone you linked to (www.newyorkestatejewelry.com) is gorgeous - based on the pics, it seems well-proportioned and the emerald-cuts seem to match well.

I looked very quickly on James Allen and comparative *graded* diamonds range from apx $8,000 - $11,000 for 3 e-cs (I searched colors E-G, clarity VS2, in carat weight ranges +/- 0.5ct).

I do believe Israel Rose is regarded as reputable - and the setting is in platinum. I wonder if there is any wiggle room in pricing? I also wonder if you could have the ring sent to one of the highly regarded PS appraisers (I think David Wolf is in NYC near this vendor) for a professional objective opinion? And / Or, make the purchase contingent on a diamond grading report and have the ring sent to AGL (since AGL will grade mounted diamonds)?

 

[quaddio]

Honestly I think that Israel Rose 3-stone you linked to (www.newyorkestatejewelry.com) is gorgeous - based on the pics, it seems well-proportioned and the emerald-cuts seem to match well.

I looked very quickly on James Allen and comparative *graded* diamonds range from apx $8,000 - $11,000 for 3 e-cs (I searched colors E-G, clarity VS2, in carat weight ranges +/- 0.5ct).

I do believe Israel Rose is regarded as reputable - and the setting is in platinum. I wonder if there is any wiggle room in pricing? I also wonder if you could have the ring sent to one of the highly regarded PS appraisers (I think David Wolf is in NYC near this vendor) for a professional objective opinion? And / Or, make the purchase contingent on a diamond grading report and have the ring sent to AGL (since AGL will grade mounted diamonds)?

Hi Mary,
Thanks for your input and the recommendation. Based on your search at James Allen the Israel Rose is priced way too high. I just got my bonus and might enjoy starting a new project soon...

 

[quaddio]

I think this is happening... just found an incredible EC newly listed by a Pricescope vendor!

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Awesome!!! I really love emerald cuts!

 

[quaddio]

Thanks Diamondseeker!

I'm so excited to be bringing the EC back. I found a great center stone but I don't think I can move ahead with the rest of the ring yet due to the sidestones being a large part of the cost. Maybe I'll just keep the center stone as my little sparkler til funds for the rest of the ring free up. In any case, one step closer.

 

[AprilBaby]

I love a classic three stone emerald cut ring! That's what I wanted when I upgraded but I already had the round side stones so round it is.

 

[quaddio]

Aprilbaby - it's not too late, you have nine other fingers to adorn!

 

[lambskin]

Absolutely one of my fave designs and dream rings. My only comment is , since you thought your other ring was ideal save for the inclusions, you will probably be happier with a bigger and better quality ring utilizing the same design since you will be comparing it to the former ring. The big cost of the ring will be the diamonds and not plat vs. WG. What about a three stone round or oval? Good luck.