Tell me what''s wrong with this diamond because it looks pretty

[lovelylulu]

i''ve attached a report...

 

[oldminer]

If you want a conservative, less flashy type diamond, this might be perfect for you. There is nothing wrong with the info you have concerning the cut. It needs a personal, eye''s on examination.

 

[Shay37]

Is that cut like a large baguette? OMG, Ana will die when she sees this one.

shay

 

[lovelylulu]

Oldminer: thanks for that response!! do you mean it won't be flashy relative to other diamond shapes or relative to other emerald cuts, because it was awfully sparkly when i looked at it...

shay: i think i fell in love

 

[strmrdr]

It will have less fire than the traditional EC cut.
If you have looked at it in a wide variety of light conditions and love it then go for it :}

 

[lovelylulu]

Storm: the stone was extremely sparkly, at least to my eyes...the thing that concerned me initially was that the corners might be prone to chipping because they form such a point???

 

[strmrdr]

yea like a princess cut they will be vulnerable.
properly set and cared for it could not be a problem.
Is this going in a ring or pendant?
I think you may have said in one of your other posts but im drawing a blank on it.

 

[lovelylulu]

This my friend would be the stone for my engagement ring

 

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Lulu...you asked in another thread: "would you buy an EC without cut corners?". I''ll answer here...yes I would. In fact I have.

I have a ring with "square step cut" stones, whose plots look just like yours, only square rather than rectangular (duh). I absolutely love their bright, clean look!

As Storm said, because the corners are vulnerable (like princesses) they need to be protected...probably with "vee" (^) prongs...(don''t know if "vee" is the proper term..)

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[strmrdr]

Date: 11/6/2005 11:53:35 AM
Author: lovelylulu
This my friend would be the stone for my engagement ring

kewl congrates.
yea definatly v prongs properly set to protect the corners.
durability would be no worse than with a princess cut.
Which means lass than most rounds but a lot of them last a long time with no problems.

 

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Author: Shay37
Is that cut like a large baguette?

Good question...I''ve always wondered exactly what is a "baguette" cut...

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[lovelylulu]

I emailed GOG and some other vendors that were recommended to me and i''m curious to see what they come up with, but right now i really love this stone!!!!!

i knew that i loved it, when the sales lady was holding it up while explaining some things and from across the table ii could only stare at the stone and think it was glorious!!!

I would love some more EC experts to weigh in on the stone, it''s such a huge decision

if i''m this excited before getting a ring, i cannot think about what i''d be like when i actually am wearing it

ps: my man passed his bar exam and we''ve been having such a fun weekend celebrating, chatting about marriage, the excitement is amazing!!!

(unfortunately i am still in limbo)

 

[lumpkin]

Sounds gorgeous! Do you have a setting in mind?

 

[SeaOats]

Sounds like it may be the one for you!!

Definitely share with us your ideas for settings

 

[AChiOAlumna]

It sounds like this stone is really "speaking" to you and if it is, then that is what''s most important!! I can''t wait to see the actual stone!!! Sounds gorgeous!!

 

[Rank Amateur]

Emeralds have a different look due to the large facets and are not as desirable in the current market. It seems to me that the facets are cut more to give a specific exterior appearance than to maximize light return or fire (or scintillation).

That said, I think the shape is timeless and classy. Yours is right at the limit of the length-to-width ratio where an EC starts to look like was the only thing that could be forced out of an odd-shaped piece of rough.

Your eyes are the final arbiter and they have spoken!

 

[valeria101]

Date: 11/6/2005 11:29:58 AM
Author: Shay37
Is that cut like a large baguette? OMG, Ana will die when she sees this one.

Still alive, but shaken

Yes, I like the cut. I would agree happily with David Atlas that this is not a fashion 'flashy' cut, because the shape has such a straight, geometric look. That's precisely why I love them so much. The flash of light coming from the large facets is what endeared the cut to me in the first place.

The best way for me to look at these stones is moving them a bit so different facets get to catch light.
.... which doesn't mean I wouldn't love to see some pictures!


About the fire part... I would appreciate a hint on this. As far as I know, what it takes is a relatively low angle on incidence of a reflected beam back onto the facet where it exist the diamond. And a viewer somewhere on the trajectory - which means that this said beam should not exit at a low angle. If this is right, why couldn't ECs do it? Does the number or size of facets enter this story?

 

[diamondsbylauren]

Hi Everybody!
I''m just recovering from the NYC Marathon.
No, I did not run it, but watching the darn thing was so tiring......

Lulu- I''ll add my honest opinion.
If you love it buy it- BUT- I would strongly suggest you look at traditional emerald cuts and compare.
The large baguette can be very pretty- but the "flash" that Dave Atlas is talking about is caused by the corners.
On an emerald cut the corners for triangles which act like teeny mirrors which "flash" the light around the corners.

I''m not so sure the V tip prongs are any safer than ball type prongs.
Of course when setting a sqwuare cornered stone, the first risk you face it the initial setting job.
If a setter causes minor damage to a princess cut, you might never even know it.
The sparkle at the corners might hide it.
Then, if you actually did have damage that needed repair, it''s relatively easy on a princess cut- you can simply add a little kite shaped facet which gets lost.
If you damaged a large baguette, it would be more likely to show, and less easy to repair.

SO- I do not want to suggest it''s not a great stone- but only the reasons you might consider going more traditional with an Emerald Cut.

 

[Kaleigh]

I think David has given you some very good advice. If I were you I''d take a look at some more traditional cut EC''s and then make your decision, just to be sure.

 

[valeria101]

PS to previous post: I never thought of the repair part in any other terms but ''insurance'' when writing that.

Date: 11/6/2005 5:32:40 PM
Author: diamondsbylauren

If a setter causes minor damage to a princess cut, you might never even know it.
The sparkle at the corners might hide it.
Then, if you actually did have damage that needed repair, it''s relatively easy on a princess cut- you can simply add a little kite shaped facet which gets lost.
If you damaged a large baguette, it would be more likely to show, and less easy to repair.

 

[windowshopper]

i think its interesting but it will not look like a diamond to alot of people..............its a large baguette and i think the heavier corner prongs wil emphasize the length which may be an odd look once set. A princess cut being square has no corner more pronounced than others..........of course if you love it by all means get it but i am not sure why you would consider it. This is not an Emerald cut. It will look more like glass than diamond crystal without the corner facets

 

[windowshopper]

plus it is overly deep with a bordering on large table and the polish is only good which i think often amkes for a somewhat dull stone. Also IMO you will find it near to impossible to ever trade or sell the stone should you want to trade up.............as this is something that is not in high demand

 

[lovelylulu]

window shopper: i appreciate your comments, however i have to say in person i certainly knew it was a diamond and not a "dull piece of glass" i kind of like this particular stone because its uniqueness.

question: do you think that claw prongs are not possible with this stone because of its sharp corners???


thanks for all the feedback

 

[windowshopper]

Date: 11/6/2005 8:17:34 PM
Author: lovelylulu
window shopper: i appreciate your comments, however i have to say in person i certainly knew it was a diamond and not a 'dull piece of glass' i kind of like this particular stone because its uniqueness.

question: do you think that claw prongs are not possible with this stone because of its sharp corners???


thanks for all the feedback

you misconstrue my meaning...........due to its lack of faceting compared with Ec's it coudl easily be viewed with some degree of uncertainty? anyway no offense intended........and no --claw prongs would leave the points exposed and they would most certainly chip in short order. PLUS just for the sake of truthfulness your quotations imply I said something I didnt........................I said "It will look more like glass than diamond crystal"

 

[Kaleigh]

I agree with Windowshopper, claw prongs wouldn''t work with this stone as the tips would be exposed and therefore would be prone to chipping. I think V tips would be more appropriate, even though I love claw prongs. Just not for this stone. Just wouldn''t be safe.

 

[lovelylulu]

no worries window, i took no offense from your comments, none at all. i was just letting you know that, in person, the stone really does have a lot of life. and like everyone has said time and time again, you really have to see these fancies in person. i wasn''t meaning to mis quote you just rely that the possible negatives you pointed out in my mind looked quite positive.

unfortunately, i suspected that claw prongs might not be possible. hmmm. i''ll have to give it some more thought...

 

[valeria101]

Date: 11/6/2005 8:17:34 PM
Author: lovelylulu


question: do you think that claw prongs are not possible with this stone because of its sharp corners???

Guess not.... but perhaps something that looks like them could be done, I''ve seen some on a princess cut: imagine the ''claws'' are tight together with no space between. I think they were a single piece anyway - forming a relatively wide prong around the tip.

The few rings with large baguettes I liked were not traditional basket settings (a vertical channel at Stuart Moore, tension, bezel and a couple frame like exotic things from Nouvelle Bague this summer). Whatever it is, it will probably have to be something fairly protective. If basket, perhaps not a high one etc.

Princess cuts get set in every possible sort of way - perhaps most are not safe anyway. Aside the comments from David, I can''t tell why would this be any less sturdy than a princess cut.

What setting do you have in mind?



Also, really, don''t take my enthusiasm for the shape too seriously. I don''t find many people to agree with my taste at all, and I sort of like it this way most of the time.

 

[valeria101]

... just remembered where one example double claw set princess was...

This setting has the bezel the ring of metal between the prongs) high up under the girdle. As far as I know, this makes it safer for those acute diamond tips.

 

[lovelylulu]

ana: it just so happens that you and i have similar tastes when it comes to this particular stone...i looked at it yesterday and went back again today and i still love it

originally, i was thinking of having a thin pave band, but after seeing it in person, i have to agree with some others that pave and emerald cuts, while beautiful might not be a perfect match.

i did really love my stone in a setting with two smaller tapered bagettes -- something i didn''t think i wanted -- but in person, it just works! so i would like to stay traditional and i figure that we''ll be able to work something out with the prongs, like you pointed out princess cuts are set all the time

 

[Kaleigh]

Ana that is a great example, love it.