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Switching from ACA to Brian Gavin Blue

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weepingwillow

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oh the horror.
I had proposed with an I ACA but it was very yellow.
She wasnt a fan.
:wall:
If I switch to Blue Brian Gavin,will they face up that muc whiter? Same color.
 
No way is changing to I color with fluorescence going to change the fact that the stone is I color. You need to go a color grade higher regardless of whether the stone has fluorescence or not. In a LOT of lighting (especially indoors), you will see nothing of the fluorescence. So in the environment where she sees the tint of the I color combined with the environmental color, another I color with BF is still going to look the same. Sorry, but you need to go to G or H color if she is color sensitive!
 
weepingwillow|1415236788|3778310 said:
oh the horror.
I had proposed with an I ACA but it was very yellow.
She wasnt a fan.
:wall:
If I switch to Blue Brian Gavin,will they face up that muc whiter? Same color.
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Some people are more color sensitive than others. Not a bad thing!

Agree that you should go to G or higher to be sure you aren't dealing with this again in the future. If she's very color-sensitive (which seems like a strong possibility), trade in that I-colored ACA for an F-colored ACA!
 
Well shell still wear the ring around, so thats not an issue.

I did not know flourescence made that little difference, I was under the impression they faced up whiter? Is it just marketing ?
 
I had an I stone (not from BGD and far from ideal and negligible fluor) that faced up white but definitely showed yellow from the side.

I chipped my stone (much more careful with my ring now) and went with an BGD Blue H and there is a noticeable difference. I don't see any color on the side view. I don't have a full view of my stone due to my setting, but what I can see looks amazing.

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-new-bgd-blue-rb-aka-time-stealer.207333/

I am not a diamond expert and found out about BGD from perusing PS for 10 Year Anniversary Upgrade ideas. Will hopefully have a new setting next year. Glad I found PS and glad I have my BGD Blue :-)

Hope this helps you.
 
So is the H area where that yellow hue quickly changes/
 
Earlier today, I was actually looking through my diamond onto white paper with black text, and admiring how clear it looked. AMAZING. Just thought of that and wanted to share.

Love my diamond.

I don't think you can go wrong with a Blue.
 
Even within a grade, some stones will be at the low end and others at the high end. But if she doesn't like I color, you need to upgrade the color regardless of the fluorescence. I had a G with strong blue fl. but it was still a G. It might have looked a little whiter face up in sunlight or something, but it was still a G. J color is where I definitely see tint. The change is very gradual from the top of near colorless, G, to the bottom, J.

Here is some color information with photos that might help you. You'll have to advance a few pages to see more colors.

http://www.goodoldgold.com/4Cs/Color/Colorless/
 
An I with strong blue will have a whiter face up appearance HOWEVER, from the side, she's still going to get the warmth. I wonder how much of it is actually seeing the warmth vs mind-cleanliness. She might know it's an I and that might make her color sensitivity worse for her than it is. There's a lot to that.

What I'd do is either spend the money to exchange for an F or G ACA if you want to not involve another vendor OR get a G BGD blue if you want the added buffer of fluorescence and don't mind dealing with another vendor.
 
Is this a princess or a round? RBs wash tint better. Deep stones and pointed corners concentrate color more. Might need to up to G in a princess. Also, big diamonds concentrate tint more than small ones.
 
weepingwillow|1415239234|3778324 said:
So is the H area where that yellow hue quickly changes/
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If you wanna be safe go up 2 color to a G.
 
If you really want to be safe, go up to an F color which is at the bottom of the "colorless" range.
G - J is in the "near colorless" range.
 
cflutist|1415241086|3778336 said:
If you really want to be safe, go up to an F color which is at the bottom of the "colorless" range.
G - J is in the "near colorless" range.
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sounds good to me!.. :bigsmile:
 
So Looking at the BG site, there isn't much. An H for the similar size commands a tad price increase.

If I drop down size to 1.5 carat, there is quite a few in my price range for the G BG Blue.

Whiteflash seems a tad out of reach once the color goes up from I.
 
cflutist|1415241086|3778336 said:
If you really want to be safe, go up to an F color which is at the bottom of the "colorless" range.
G - J is in the "near colorless" range.
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+1
 
weepingwillow|1415236788|3778310 said:
oh the horror.
I had proposed with an I ACA but it was very yellow.
She wasnt a fan.
:wall:
If I switch to Blue Brian Gavin,will they face up that muc whiter? Same color.
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Only when the light you are in has a substantial amount of ultraviolet light.
Sunlight does.
Regular indoor lighting doesn't.
 
ame|1415240283|3778330 said:
An I with strong blue will have a whiter face up appearance HOWEVER, from the side, she's still going to get the warmth. I wonder how much of it is actually seeing the warmth vs mind-cleanliness. She might know it's an I and that might make her color sensitivity worse for her than it is. There's a lot to that.

What I'd do is either spend the money to exchange for an F or G ACA if you want to not involve another vendor OR get a G BGD blue if you want the added buffer of fluorescence and don't mind dealing with another vendor.
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Hi Ame,

I agree with this possibly being a mindclean thing, but I disagree vehemently with you stating that fluorescence automatically improves the face-up appearance. That is incorrect.

Live long,
 
So let's say I look in the 1.5 range.

Any recommendations? From any vendor?
 
I take it the 1.5 is a size downgrade. What size is the original stone? Does she want to downsize for color?
 
weepingwillow|1415290937|3778579 said:
1.7 carat.
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I would include her in this process. If the color is bothering her that much, you're going to have to clarify with her that she will lose size to go up in color.
 
If I go from 1.713 -> to the 1.6 range, I can get H in color.
If I go from 1.713 -> to the 1.517 range, I can get G color.

Yes the color is a bother. I did involve her and let her know
 
If she is that colour sensitive, I would go down to a G.
 
Any other recommendations before I pull the trigger ?
 
The cert says additional clouds not shown.
 
FancyIntense|1415294014|3778630 said:
The cert says additional clouds not shown.
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This is just a note for sake of completeness.

The notation you need to be concerned about is 'Clarity based on additional clouds not shown.'

As long as 'Clarity based' is not included there, you should be good.
 
Any other recs?
The 1.517 G from BG is in first place.
 
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