still trying to decide

[bucklwi1]

I have found 3 new SI-1 stones to consider and was looking for opinions ( I am waiting for Idealscope pictures):

diamond 1

1.05 carat
H-color
AGS ideal
Excellent polish
Excellent symmetry
depth: 60.8
table: 58.1
crown angle: 33.9
pavillion angle: 40.9
HCA score = 1.3
price $5577

diamond 2

0.96 carat
H-color
GIA excellent
Excellent polish
Excellent symmetry
depth: 62.6
table: 54
crown angle: 35
pavillion angle: 41
HCA score= 2.4
price $4131

diamond 3

1.05 carat
H-color
GIA excellent
Excellent polish
Excellent symmetry
depth: 59.9
table: 57
crown angle: 33.5
pavillion angle: 41
HCA score= 0.9
price $4684

 

[Lorelei]

From the info given, I would be most interested in the first and last diamonds. Have you verified if the diamonds are eyeclean? If you could get the diameter and girdle measurements too, that would be helpful.

 

[bucklwi1]

#1

measurements: 6.54-6.58x 3.99
girdle: 1.7 - 4.4%

#2

measurements: 6.29-6.33x3.95
girdle: thin-slightly thick

#3

measurements: 6.63-6.65x3.98
girdle: thin-medium

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 6/17/2008 1:52:48 PM
Author: bucklwi1
#1

measurements: 6.54-6.58x 3.99
girdle: 1.7 - 4.4%

#2

measurements: 6.29-6.33x3.95
girdle: thin-slightly thick

#3

measurements: 6.63-6.65x3.98
girdle: thin-medium

Thanks! Those look fine, if you could post the IS images when you get them, we can go from there.

 

[Stephan]

Number three for me!

 

[bucklwi1]

Date: 6/17/2008 2:11:28 PM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 6/17/2008 1:52:48 PM
Author: bucklwi1
#1

measurements: 6.54-6.58x 3.99
girdle: 1.7 - 4.4%

#2

measurements: 6.29-6.33x3.95
girdle: thin-slightly thick

#3

measurements: 6.63-6.65x3.98
girdle: thin-medium

Thanks! Those look fine, if you could post the IS images when you get them, we can go from there.

OK the guy I am working with still hasn''t got the idealscope pictures yet, but he sent over 2 more candidates:

Stone #4

1.05 carat
H-color
GIA EX cut
EX polish
EX symmetry
depth: 61.4
table: 56
crown angle: 34.5
pavillion angle: 40.6
HCA score = 0.7
measurements: 6.53-6.56 x 4.02
girdle: thin - medium
price $5000

Stone #5

1.04 carat
H-color
GIA EX cut
EX polish
EX symmetry
depth: 61.1
table: 56
crown angle: 34.5
pavillion angle: 40.8
HCA score = 1.2
measurements: 6.53-6.56 x 4.00
girdle: thin - medium
price $5075



thoughts??

 

[Stephan]

Without pictures, I''d still pic nr. 3.

 

[Lorelei]

LOL!!! Sounds like Stephan knows which one he would grab!

The numbers look great for these last two diamonds! Are they both SI clarity?

 

[bucklwi1]

Date: 6/17/2008 3:31:31 PM
Author: QueenMum
Without pictures, I''d still pic nr. 3.

Stone #3 I just found out has Medium Blue for flourescence.

does this affect how the stone will look? does this affect the quality?

 

[bucklwi1]

does medium blue flourescence in an 1.05 carat, H-color, GIA excellent cut diamond affect how the diamond looks?

does it make the daimond a lesser quality?


Can anyone suggest any other round 0.94+ carat, H-color+, and SI-1+ clarity, excellent cut diamonds for less than $5000? I am trying to find some with high HCA scores.

thanks

 

[Dancing Fire]

#5

 

[honey22]

Date: 6/17/2008 10:47:06 PM
Author: bucklwi1
does medium blue flourescence in an 1.05 carat, H-color, GIA excellent cut diamond affect how the diamond looks?

does it make the daimond a lesser quality?


Can anyone suggest any other round 0.94+ carat, H-color+, and SI-1+ clarity, excellent cut diamonds for less than $5000? I am trying to find some with high HCA scores.

thanks

Medium blue fluoro will not have a negative effect, it can often assist in lower colour stones appear whiter, so a H colour with med fluoro is a great choice, and many people actually look for stones with the characteristic. It certainly doesn''t make it a lesser quality stone despite what you have heard, however it can have a negative stigma associated with it, and therefore you may find that stones with fluoro can be slightly cheaper - it''s great news for you!

You don''t want to find a stone with high HCA scores, anything under 2 is good. You use this tool to weed our poor performing stones, and then when you find contenders with scores under 2, you can then use other tools such as IS images and AEST images to confirm if the stone is a good performer.

I will have a quick hunt and see what I can come up with.

 

[honey22]

$400 over budget but a real stunner! No need to worry about HCA scores here! Great cut, fantastic colour clarity combo, if it were me, I would stretch the $400 no second thoughts. I really like this stone!

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/4509/

This one just in budget, another awesome stone. H colour, SI1 clarity, will need to check with GOG if eyeclean though but a great choice if you can''t stretch the $400 for the above one.

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/4501/

 

[Lorelei]

Those look nice Hon!

 

[bucklwi1]

Date: 6/18/2008 5:26:44 AM
Author: honey22

Date: 6/17/2008 10:47:06 PM
Author: bucklwi1
does medium blue flourescence in an 1.05 carat, H-color, GIA excellent cut diamond affect how the diamond looks?

does it make the daimond a lesser quality?


Can anyone suggest any other round 0.94+ carat, H-color+, and SI-1+ clarity, excellent cut diamonds for less than $5000? I am trying to find some with high HCA scores.

thanks

Medium blue fluoro will not have a negative effect, it can often assist in lower colour stones appear whiter, so a H colour with med fluoro is a great choice, and many people actually look for stones with the characteristic. It certainly doesn''t make it a lesser quality stone despite what you have heard, however it can have a negative stigma associated with it, and therefore you may find that stones with fluoro can be slightly cheaper - it''s great news for you!

You don''t want to find a stone with high HCA scores, anything under 2 is good. You use this tool to weed our poor performing stones, and then when you find contenders with scores under 2, you can then use other tools such as IS images and AEST images to confirm if the stone is a good performer.

I will have a quick hunt and see what I can come up with.

by high score I meant, below 2.0

those 2 diamonds you came up with are very nice. Now I just need to wait on the idealscope images of the other 4 diamonds to make a choice.

I did some reading on Medium Blue floursescence last night and am totally fine with it. So I will wait and see.

 

[bucklwi1]

how do I post the idealscope image?

 

[JulieN]

attach file

 

[honey22]

Date: 6/18/2008 7:37:44 AM
Author: Lorelei
Those look nice Hon!

Ta

 

[honey22]

You need to save the pic as a jpeg, making sure it has been resized to under 100kb and then when you go to post, click the attach file button and select your jpeg image to upload. You also need to have some text in the post, a single letter is fine. It will not work either if there is another file somewhere in PS land with the same name, so I tend to give my files long funny names with letters and numbers, just to reduce the chance of my file being the same name as someone elses. For example idealscope.jpeg won''t work!!

 

[bucklwi1]

OK, the jeweler told me diamond #3 was the best of the bunch so he only sent the idealscope picture for this diamond.

Here are the stats for the diamond and the idealscope picture, let me know what you think!!!!!!!

diamond 3

1.05 carat
H-color
Medium Blue flourescence
GIA excellent
Excellent polish
Excellent symmetry
depth: 59.9
table: 57
crown angle: 33.5
pavillion angle: 41
HCA score= 0.9

 

[JulieN]

NICE

 

[bucklwi1]

Date: 6/19/2008 11:35:12 PM
Author: JulieN
NICE

so the overall stats of this diamond and the idealscope indicate that this a real nice diamond right?

I am so new to this and so many people here seem so knowledgeable that I would definitely appreciate the feedback. Medium blue flourescence in a H-color diamond should make it appear whiter, right?

 

[JulieN]

Date: 6/19/2008 11:38:05 PM
Author: bucklwi1

Date: 6/19/2008 11:35:12 PM
Author: JulieN
NICE

so the overall stats of this diamond and the idealscope indicate that this a real nice diamond right?

I am so new to this and so many people here seem so knowledgeable that I would definitely appreciate the feedback. Medium blue flourescence in a H-color diamond should make it appear whiter, right?

maybe. it might not make any difference.

 

[bucklwi1]

Date: 6/20/2008 12:23:50 AM
Author: JulieN

Date: 6/19/2008 11:38:05 PM
Author: bucklwi1

Date: 6/19/2008 11:35:12 PM
Author: JulieN
NICE

so the overall stats of this diamond and the idealscope indicate that this a real nice diamond right?

I am so new to this and so many people here seem so knowledgeable that I would definitely appreciate the feedback. Medium blue flourescence in a H-color diamond should make it appear whiter, right?

maybe. it might not make any difference.

OK. based on the IS and stats, does this look like a really nice stone?

 

[JulieN]

you mean you want me to clarify if NICE=really nice?

 

[bucklwi1]

Date: 6/20/2008 12:40:03 AM
Author: JulieN
you mean you want me to clarify if NICE=really nice?

Yeah, sorry. I just want to be sure I am buying the best possible, since I can''t compare them myself.

I''m sure you''re right that it is NICE. Based on the little knowledge I''ve put together from this sight, it seems to have all of the right proportions, etc.

Maybe some of the other experienced members can offer opinions as well.

thank you!!!!!!!!

 

[Stephan]

I think it looks very nice!
This bold arrows should give you big fire!
I love it!
The optical symmetry looks perfect to me.