So I'm trying to figure out these two ideal scope images...

[OneExample]

They are telling me that the first stone is brighter than the second. It seems almost the opposite to me. Am I looking at these wrong?




The second stone is roughly $1,000 less than the second.

Any help would be great. Thanks.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Re: So I'm trying to figure out these two ideal scope images

#1 is a more perfectly cut diamond. What is the clarity of the two stones? It must be different because the pricing doesn't make sense otherwise. The second one looks like it might have a bad feather right near the edge.

 

[OneExample]

Re: So I'm trying to figure out these two ideal scope images

Ah yes, I meant the first diamond is $1,000 less. The first is a GIA Excellent, the second is an AGS 001. I suppose that is probably the main problem for the second stone.

 

[Gypsy]

Re: So I'm trying to figure out these two ideal scope images

What's the spread on each?

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Re: So I'm trying to figure out these two ideal scope images

Ah yes, I meant the first diamond is $1,000 less. The first is a GIA Excellent, the second is an AGS 001. I suppose that is probably the main problem for the second stone.

The excellent on #2 is on symmetry? What is the diameter of each stone and what is the clarity? Price, too.

 

[OneExample]

Re: So I'm trying to figure out these two ideal scope images

The first is 7.64 - 7.67 x 4.72. The second is 8.24 - 8.26 x 4.96. The second stone has VG polish and sym, yes. They are recommending the first stone.

I know its probably wrong, but I am excited about the idea of the second because it seems like a better deal. The first stone is a good price, but there are similarly sized stones on other sites for that price. I haven't found much approaching the value of the second. But I suppose it may not be a good enough quality.

 

[OneExample]

Re: So I'm trying to figure out these two ideal scope images

Price on the first is about $10.3k and the second is about $11.3k.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Re: So I'm trying to figure out these two ideal scope images

The second stone is AGS graded and has 0 (ideal) for light return and excellent or very good for polish and symmetry?

Clarity?

 

[OneExample]

Re: So I'm trying to figure out these two ideal scope images

Sorry, I may be saying it wrong. Here is the certificate on the second stone...

 

[Gypsy]

Re: So I'm trying to figure out these two ideal scope images

The second is still pretty high quality. I'd say it's better than 95% of what's out there.

Here are my thoughts. Most of the Pricescopers I know in real life (and they are many) who have Round Brilliants do not have the 'perfect' Round Brilliant in terms of cuts and angles. And all of their stones are quite beautiful.

OF THE TWO it is the less perfectly cut stone and not as bright as the other. But you don't wear it on your hand next to another stone. You wear it alone. And it is significantly larger, and you aren't compromising that much in terms of performance.

It's very much the same decision as choosing a J colored stone over an H colored stone. The H is the safer stone, and it is whiter. But the J will still be very white most of the time, and will let you get a bigger stone. And when asked, we tell them that the H is the safer choice, because that's our job, to make sure they make an informed decision. But that doesn't mean that going with the J is wrong. Many people chose the J, because that's the right fit for them.

My feeling is-- would you or your lady prefer the larger stone? If she has always wanted a 2 carat, or lives in CA or NY or another large metro area, or if her friends/sisters/moms all have larger stones-- then it might be the right decision for you to get the larger one.

At this point we can give you the facts: One is "objectively' better than the other in terms of the quality of the cut and the brightness. But both are solid choices and which one you buy depends very much on what is right for you (if it's for you) and your lady (if it's for someone else).

 

[diamondseeker2006]

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Well, very good is two steps down from ideal, so this stone would not be acceptable to ME. But if it is for someone who only wants a 2 ct. stone, then I guess it might be worth considering. The first one is better cut and I'd rather have it. The price on the first one is fine. The second one's price reflects that it is not ideal cut.

Gypsy beat me to it, but basically we are thinking close to the same thing.

 

[OneExample]

Re: So I'm trying to figure out these two ideal scope images

Is cut grade "Excellent" one step down or two for AGS grading?

Thank you both. You guys have an amazing understanding of these things. I've learned more on these forums than I ever could going to a local jewelry store.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Re: So I'm trying to figure out these two ideal scope images

Is cut grade "Excellent" one step down or two for AGS grading?

Thank you both. You guys have an amazing understanding of these things. I've learned more on these forums than I ever could going to a local jewelry store.

It goes Ideal, Excellent, Very good, etc. So the cut grade is down one from ideal. I really like symmetry to be ideal so that is why I wouldn't really like the "very good" on that.

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