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So I took Kaleigh''s advice and looked around now I just need to know

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I really like the 3rd one. Looks like a bigger diamond and a good deal and inclusions are toward the sides. I like how it has medium florescence for the nice blue shine in sunlight.
 
I only had a quick look, but they all seem really nice. At first I thought take the E, but I think that maybe going for the larger F will probably be better. It''s totally up to you. If you are super colour sensitive go the E, but if not take the larger stone.
 
I like the F SI1. It''s larger. 1.4 on the HCA. It gets Ex Gd Gd Gd.

The E SI1 is beautiful too. 1.4 on the HCA. It gets Ex Ex Ex Gd.

So what I''d really do is ask Jon at GOG to compare them and give you his opinion. I''d trust his eyes 100%.
 
Date: 4/4/2008 4:00:08 AM
Author: swingirl
I like the F SI1. It''s larger. 1.4 on the HCA. It gets Ex Gd Gd Gd.

The E SI1 is beautiful too. 1.4 on the HCA. It gets Ex Ex Ex Gd.

So what I''d really do is ask Jon at GOG to compare them and give you his opinion. I''d trust his eyes 100%.
Actually, looking at these HCA results, I would go for the E.
 
I would go for the F, SI1 :) you also get over the 7mm mark :) very nice :)

I was very almost tempted to go for that one :P very similar numbers to the one I picked and exact same carat size :), yes I am biased :P.
 
Again HCA shouldn't be used to choose between diamonds, especially ones like these, if that is how anyone is basing their preferences, this has come up a lot recently.
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I just wanted to bring that up, if no one minds.
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With such fine diamonds as the above contenders, it is best to pick by separate proportions if you wish, colour and clarity and as SG says, vendor evaluation.
 
Date: 4/4/2008 4:38:48 AM
Author: Lorelei
Again HCA shouldn''t be used to choose between diamonds, especially ones like these, if that is how anyone is basing their preferences, this has come up a lot recently.
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I just wanted to bring that up, if no one minds.
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With such fine diamonds as the above contenders, it is best to pick by separate proportions if you wish, colour and clarity and as SG says, vendor evaluation.
Hi Lorelei, I was just posting about you in another thread, wanting some more experise so to speak!

Just a quick question, normally I wouldn''t use the HCA as a selection tool either, but with the Ex Gd Gd Gd result, wouldn''t one take the Ex Ex Ex Vg, simply due to the fire, bright, and scint being estimated as not as good?
 
Another vote for the 1.37ct F SI1 , but I also second just asking Jon to check em out and give his expert opinion on which is the best performer. There''s every chance he could echo this thread and tell you they''re all great, but perhaps he''ll be able to see something to rule out one of the options.
Please let us know how you want to set it!
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Date: 4/4/2008 4:56:05 AM
Author: honey22

Date: 4/4/2008 4:38:48 AM
Author: Lorelei
Again HCA shouldn''t be used to choose between diamonds, especially ones like these, if that is how anyone is basing their preferences, this has come up a lot recently.
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I just wanted to bring that up, if no one minds.
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With such fine diamonds as the above contenders, it is best to pick by separate proportions if you wish, colour and clarity and as SG says, vendor evaluation.
Hi Lorelei, I was just posting about you in another thread, wanting some more experise so to speak!

Just a quick question, normally I wouldn''t use the HCA as a selection tool either, but with the Ex Gd Gd Gd result, wouldn''t one take the Ex Ex Ex Vg, simply due to the fire, bright, and scint being estimated as not as good?
Hi Hun!

To the best of my knowledge, the HCA can ding a diamond which has a steeper pavilion angle ( 41 deg plus) which the F SI has. When looking at diamonds such as these, with all the other info available so you can see what a fine diamond it is, then this takes precedence compared to the HCA score, which can''t actually see the diamond. The HCA was originally intended to weed out through the many virtual diamonds on the listings, so the consumer could eliminate the lesser performers, then evaluate the below 2 scorers through other means.

If you do a search on 41 deg pavilion angle, you will find out more than you ever wanted to know probably!
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Date: 4/4/2008 6:20:58 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 4/4/2008 4:56:05 AM
Author: honey22


Date: 4/4/2008 4:38:48 AM
Author: Lorelei
Again HCA shouldn''t be used to choose between diamonds, especially ones like these, if that is how anyone is basing their preferences, this has come up a lot recently.
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I just wanted to bring that up, if no one minds.
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With such fine diamonds as the above contenders, it is best to pick by separate proportions if you wish, colour and clarity and as SG says, vendor evaluation.
Hi Lorelei, I was just posting about you in another thread, wanting some more experise so to speak!

Just a quick question, normally I wouldn''t use the HCA as a selection tool either, but with the Ex Gd Gd Gd result, wouldn''t one take the Ex Ex Ex Vg, simply due to the fire, bright, and scint being estimated as not as good?
Hi Hun!

To the best of my knowledge, the HCA can ding a diamond which has a steeper pavilion angle ( 41 deg plus) which the F SI has. When looking at diamonds such as these, with all the other info available so you can see what a fine diamond it is, then this takes precedence compared to the HCA score, which can''t actually see the diamond. The HCA was originally intended to weed out through the many virtual diamonds on the listings, so the consumer could eliminate the lesser performers, then evaluate the below 2 scorers through other means.

If you do a search on 41 deg pavilion angle, you will find out more than you ever wanted to know probably!
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Ditto. The HCA, to a certain extent is based on its creators personal preferences, which are not for the deeper PA''s. (It should be noted, deeper PA''s CAN produce less than stellar results, if not cut very tight/properly. But that is not the case with the one in question, or what GOG carries in general) And as Lorelei has pointed out, it''s only to give a nod if the diamond deserves more attention/info. It has no way of knowing about all the facets on the stone, and how well they are cut. Once you get to the level of info GOG supplies, the HCA''s job is long over.

That F SI1 is literally the creme of the crop, there''s no way it''s going to under perform. And that would also be my pick.
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Wow! Thanks Ellen and Lorelei, you guys really know your stuff.

Aside from that, can you guys pop over to the other thread happening tonight about looking for a G 1.5ct stone (forgot the title). I have been helping him as much as I can, but I would prefer he have some other opinions before dropping over 10K!! Ta muchly!

ETA - here is the link. Sorry for the threadjack!

ETA #2, I am stoopid - HERE is the link
https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/need-help-choosing-loose-diamond-for-engagement-ring.82405/
 

Nice work El!


Honey you are welcome, popping over to the thread now...

 
Fankies Loerlei!

And honey, no problem!
 
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