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I was on another forum and one of the posters had gotten engaged, and posted a photo similar to below and said 'Its a 2ct!'. The photo was further away and I could tell that it was invisible set and not a 2ct stone, however if you were not so interested (nosey?) you may not have noticed. Anyways, it just kind of bothered me. Talking about this with some other people brought up the discussion of having a morganite/cz as your stone and 'selling' it to everyone as a diamond. Seemed a bit shady (and sad that you'd feel the need), but I wondered the rest of you diamond lovers thought.

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For a while I did have a beautiful CZ that I wore as a wedding ring. I got lots of compliments on it. I never told anyone it was a diamond. That being said I never offered to strangers the fact that it was a CZ. When they said "beautiful ring" I said" thanks" I would never lie to friends and family. That being said I never felt the need to elaborate to strangers.
 
It probably makes the person feel happy to say It's 2 cts. I wouldn't measure it that way, but if they do, so be it.
 
Honestly I would just hope they didn't actually think it was a 2ct stone. If they ASKED me what I thought I would be truthful, if they didn't ask I would congratulate them on the engagement and leave it alone.
 
motownmama|1417546647|3793974 said:
It probably makes the person feel happy to say It's 2 cts. I wouldn't measure it that way, but if they do, so be it.

+1

I typically don't reply to posts like that anyways :silenced:
 
I'm not bothered. We're a bunch of hobbyists who takes diamonds very seriously. Others aren't. They have a pretty ring on their finger and as long as they love it, are as knowledgeable as they want to be, and feel they paid a fair price for it *shrug*. Many jewellery stores sell rings by total carats with the division in the small print. If they're happy with their 2 carat total combined weight invisible set ring, I'm happy for them.

Same with the CZ v diamond thing. I had a lovely 5 stone asscher cut CZ ring once upon a time. I didn't tell everyone who commented that it wasn't diamonds. It doesn't meaning I was "selling" it as a diamond ring. I wore it and other assumed what they wanted. I don't feel the need to expand on what I'm wearing and why to people.
 
A lot of stores make it more obvious what the total carat weight is rather than the weight of the center stone. Even for things that aren't clusters or invisible-set. Because a lot of times the buyers don't distinguish between those two things but still want to hit a certain carat weight.
 
telephone89|1417544025|3793947 said:
I was on another forum and one of the posters had gotten engaged, and posted a photo similar to below and said 'Its a 2ct!'. The photo was further away and I could tell that it was invisible set and not a 2ct stone, however if you were not so interested (nosey?) you may not have noticed. Anyways, it just kind of bothered me. Talking about this with some other people brought up the discussion of having a morganite/cz as your stone and 'selling' it to everyone as a diamond. Seemed a bit shady (and sad that you'd feel the need), but I wondered the rest of you diamond lovers thought.
maybe she meant 2ctw?
 
I find the whole "passing off" phenomenon a bit sad.

Now I'm not saying anyone who wears or buys a CZ or white sapphire, or mossy is trying to pass it off. They may just like it for what it is. There's nothing wrong with that.

But if someone feels the need to "pass off" whatever they have as what it's definitely not, then that's a bit depressing. That goes with diamonds, with knock off Pradas, fake anything that's being portrayed as what it's not.

Heck. If I bought a hella good deal for an amazing knock off LV purse in some alley, you betcha I'd be telling people about the deal I got for that amazing purse.

But again, the girl in the other post may be talking about total carat weight. Some sellers definitely do sell by counting all of the side stones together for a total carat weight.
 
I feel no need to comment on or judge what someone else wears other than to compliment them if it catches my eye. I also have never had any reason to give details about my own jewelry (unless I'm at a PS GTG. Then it's all about the details!!!).

I assume people wear what they like and whether it's a CZ or diamond it must make them happy.
 
Many people can't distinguish between 2ct and 2ctw. I couldn't initially till I came onto PS and observed people stating center stone size and total melee weight.
 
I would read that as 2ct total weight, so I don't understand what difference it makes? A setting of that style (smaller diamonds made to look like a single, larger stone) are obvious, so it's not like anyone is being duped…. As far as buying fake stones and passing them off as real, I don't see what difference that makes either? People buy fake diamonds for different reasons and they can claim (just like I can believe) whatever they want and it has no real impact on anything.
 
Most people would realize that's 2 ct total weight. If it makes her happy, good for her! As for passing off stones as diamonds, if someone knows you well enough to know you can't afford what you are trying to pass off, in all likelihood they will be polite but realize you have a fake. You are only fooling yourself.
 
Diamond owners don't have the rights to bling, some just want the sparkle and don't want to spend their hard
earned money on it. Likewise a china store closed in a city near me, because no one buys dinner services anymore
or their expensive ornaments. I think diamonds have lost their prestige now. Everyone is so politically correct that
it is offensive to show wealth or at least to speak of it in terms of joking about peoples ctw rings. People buying lower
colors also saying higher colors are not better and yet websites say they are higher quality. These same people argue
that it has nothing to do with their quality in the way a coat would be considered for longer term wear. They are no
less a person because they have cheap or no diamonds. That's why people above are saying 'it does not matter' both from
a snobby point of view and from a politically correct point of view. I also think sometimes the politically correct view is sometimes really passive agression showing - in all topics, not just diamonds.
 
Their lives, their choices, who am I to decide what is right or wrong for others?

When I was showing my colleagues my 10.1mm precision cut white Topaz from Jeff White, one asked if it was a diamond and I said no, and showed her how to differentiate the two.

So no, I am not passing a white Topaz or other colourless stones as diamonds, never have, and never will.

I regularly mix CZ and other simulants in earrings and/or bracelets with other jewellery pieces with diamonds and CSs.

DK :))
 
Pyramid|1417641364|3794680 said:
Diamond owners don't have the rights to bling, some just want the sparkle and don't want to spend their hard
earned money on it. Likewise a china store closed in a city near me, because no one buys dinner services anymore
or their expensive ornaments. I think diamonds have lost their prestige now. Everyone is so politically correct that
it is offensive to show wealth
or at least to speak of it in terms of joking about peoples ctw rings. People buying lower
colors also saying higher colors are not better and yet websites say they are higher quality. These same people argue
that it has nothing to do with their quality in the way a coat would be considered for longer term wear. They are no
less a person because they have cheap or no diamonds. That's why people above are saying 'it does not matter' both from
a snobby point of view and from a politically correct point of view. I also think sometimes the politically correct view is sometimes really passive agression showing - in all topics, not just diamonds.

I don't agree that diamonds have lost their prestige, nor with the idea it is offensive to show wealth.
 
momhappy|1417650898|3794770 said:
Pyramid|1417641364|3794680 said:
Diamond owners don't have the rights to bling, some just want the sparkle and don't want to spend their hard
earned money on it. Likewise a china store closed in a city near me, because no one buys dinner services anymore
or their expensive ornaments. I think diamonds have lost their prestige now. Everyone is so politically correct that
it is offensive to show wealth
or at least to speak of it in terms of joking about peoples ctw rings. People buying lower
colors also saying higher colors are not better and yet websites say they are higher quality. These same people argue
that it has nothing to do with their quality in the way a coat would be considered for longer term wear. They are no
less a person because they have cheap or no diamonds. That's why people above are saying 'it does not matter' both from
a snobby point of view and from a politically correct point of view. I also think sometimes the politically correct view is sometimes really passive agression showing - in all topics, not just diamonds.

I don't agree that diamonds have lost their prestige, nor with the idea it is offensive to show wealth.

Maybe it just depends on each person's individual preferences and experiences...
 
Pyramid|1417641364|3794680 said:
Diamond owners don't have the rights to bling, some just want the sparkle and don't want to spend their hard
earned money on it. Likewise a china store closed in a city near me, because no one buys dinner services anymore
or their expensive ornaments. I think diamonds have lost their prestige now. Everyone is so politically correct that
it is offensive to show wealth or at least to speak of it in terms of joking about peoples ctw rings. People buying lower
colors also saying higher colors are not better and yet websites say they are higher quality. These same people argue
that it has nothing to do with their quality in the way a coat would be considered for longer term wear.
I 'd agree, please send all your diamonds to DF... :appl:
 
Pyramid|1417641364|3794680 said:
Diamond owners don't have the rights to bling, some just want the sparkle and don't want to spend their hard
earned money on it. Likewise a china store closed in a city near me, because no one buys dinner services anymore
or their expensive ornaments. I think diamonds have lost their prestige now. Everyone is so politically correct that
it is offensive to show wealth or at least to speak of it in terms of joking about peoples ctw rings. People buying lower
colors also saying higher colors are not better and yet websites say they are higher quality. These same people argue
that it has nothing to do with their quality in the way a coat would be considered for longer term wear. They are no
less a person because they have cheap or no diamonds. That's why people above are saying 'it does not matter' both from
a snobby point of view and from a politically correct point of view. I also think sometimes the politically correct view is sometimes really passive agression showing - in all topics, not just diamonds.
Im my OP i was actually stating the opposite of this haha. It feels like everyone is trying to "keep up with the jones' ", even if it means buying something that looks like a larger diamond (either a cz or invisible set would fit this).

I don't think its offensive to SHOW wealth, I think nowadays its more offensive to talk or brag about it. But people gladly wear their 2k louboutins (or similar red soled rip offs) that give the impression of wealth.
 
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