Should Elin divorce Tiger?

[kenny]

Besides there being two kids to consider, TMZ is reporting that Elin is weighing her options.

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We're told Elin is not going to file for divorce immediately, but there are two issues she just can't get past -- that Tiger allegedly had a 3-year relationship with one of the women, and another alleged affair occurred while Elin was pregnant.

We know Elin has confided in friends that she could have fairly easily forgiven Tiger had it been only one woman. But the sheer number, along with a long-term relationship and the pregnancy fling, has Elin doubting whether she can ever trust Tiger Woods again. Trust is her issue.

Clearly not a shock, but that's what is in her head. But still ... Elin hasn't pulled the trigger -- yet.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0aN0Ob1Q4

 

[MissGotRocks]

Date: 12/21/2009 6:42:57 PM
Author:kenny
Besides there being two kids to consider, TMZ is reporting that Elin is weighing her options.

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We''re told Elin is not going to file for divorce immediately, but there are two issues she just can''t get past -- that Tiger allegedly had a 3-year relationship with one of the women, and another alleged affair occurred while Elin was pregnant.

We know Elin has confided in friends that she could have fairly easily forgiven Tiger had it been only one woman. But the sheer number, along with a long-term relationship and the pregnancy fling, has Elin doubting whether she can ever trust Tiger Woods again. Trust is her issue.

Clearly not a shock, but that''s what is in her head. But still ... Elin hasn''t pulled the trigger -- yet.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0aN0Ob1Q4

I think that is the crux of the problem. A spouse having an affair is one thing; having flings with so many other women is hard to wrap your head around. I don''t really know how you could successfully put that all back together again - even if in your heart you really wanted to.

 

[kenny]

But she may still love him.

 

[HollyS]

Should Elin divorce Tiger?



Why wouldn't she?

He was unfaithful. Not once, not twice, not thrice. Dozens or more times. . . without regret, remorse, or worry over STDs or AIDS . . . until caught by the spouse.

He was disrespectful. See above.

He doesn't love her. See above.

He doesn't love his children. See above.

It's all about him. See above.

It's all about getting it on. In random, and not so random, tacky, nasty, gross encounters that endangered himself and his family. With anyone willing to do him.

He has no self-respect. See above.

He texted one of 'his women' while his wife was birthing his son!

He never was the man she thought she married. See above.


I'd certainly call it quits - - while very publicly dumping his butt, removing his children from his influence, taking him to the cleaners, and dragging his name through as much mud as he himself dug up.


But, alas, I'm not calling the shots for her. Would that I could.

 

[meresal]

There is no way that I could even consider forgiving someone that didn't come to me themselves and confess their wrong doings. Being caught and forgiving is much different than realizing the error of your actions and confronting the issue straight on.

He doesn't have a sex addiction. He is a player.



However, none of this has anything to do with whether or not she will divorce him. Lots of people stay with spouses that they haven't forgiven.

If she is indeed second guessing, I have a feeling she is thinking about the life she would have to give up if she left... rather than 'keeping" her family together. Cheating on a woman for 3 years with any woman he can get, is not a guy that is interested in family... he is interested in a good image. I think he is willing to pay ALOT of money to regain that good image.

ETA: I'm not her and so I didn't vote. I have no idea what she should do.

 

[isaku5]

I don''t think she should file papers until she gets what she can negotiate (through the best lawyer money can buy) regarding the pre-nup. Then if there''s a nickel left on the table, file the divorce papers as quickly as she can. The only other fair and reasonable scenario would be to file the papers now so that the scumbag doesn''t have time to have his assets protected properly.

As far as the children are concerned, he''s definitely unfit to be a parent. Having sex with another woman while his wife is giving birth is only one example of years of philandering.

Like many others, I put Tiger on a pedestal as a man of his word and a great athlete; obviously, that was a mistake as he''s shown the world he''s far from exemplary and rather beneath the lowest on the food chain.

 

[pennquaker09]

Honestly, it''s none of my business, but irregardless of that, I don''t care. I don''t think there is anything particularly special about him or her.

 

[hlmr]

Yes, she should.

 

[zhuzhu]

It is really none of my business if they should divorce or not. More importantly, nobody REALLY knows what the quality of their marriage is like to begin with, before this mess. I tend to leave other''s private affairs private unless the two of them ask me directly what I think....

 

[MissGotRocks]

Date: 12/21/2009 7:10:29 PM
Author: kenny
But she may still love him.

She probably does. There are some loves though that just aren''t good for us. Hopefully, she will do what is best for both her mental and emotional well being. Those can sometimes be hard decisions but they are necessary to facilitate moving forward with a productive life.

I can imagine how I would feel but wouldn''t even try to guess how she feels. What came before this and what comes after will have a lot of bearing on what she finally decides to do.

 

[movie zombie]

yes. their life will never be private now. she may still love him but his numerous affairs...and some long standing....well, i''m not sure she will ever trust him even if he did change [which i doubt]. time for her to move on with the children.....they will certainly have the $ to do it.

mz

 

[Kaleigh]

YES. If Tiger had one transgression, I could look past that.. I think she's waiting because even more women will come forward, making her case against him all the stronger.

We have 12 women so far... I am betting there are more.

He slept with them without protection, and then slept with her. That's reckless, and who knows what he could have passed on to her. The mother of his children.

He needs to go to rehab.

I hope she gets on with her life, and that the children aren't exposed to the nasty media we have here. I don't know what it's like in her country, but am hoping they can live a normal life there if normal is possible.

The whole thing just stinks.

I heard that Tger hated that his father cheated, and yet he went down the same road himself. Funny how that works.

 

[Imdanny]

Yes. Absolutely.

 

[ChargerGrrl]

yep

no trust, no marriage

 

[sunseeker101]

58 to 1, who lied!

His activities during the time of her pregnancy would make me wonder if there's any hint of conscience there at all -- though maybe he just has a very strange idea of what commitment means -- in either case if it was all a suprize to her I wouldn't think trust is on the cards any lifetime soon; i.e. yes I think she should.

 

[Tacori E-ring]

Only she knows what is right for her. I have learned long ago that what I might do may not be the right thing for someone else. I can only hope she is true to herself, her feelings and that she has someone trusted she can talk to.

 

[hihowareyou]

Date: 12/21/2009 10:36:26 PM
Author: Tacori E-ring
Only she knows what is right for her. I have learned long ago that what I might do may not be the right thing for someone else. I can only hope she is true to herself, her feelings and that she has someone trusted she can talk to.

+1

In the same position based on what I know, I would walk. BUT I am not in their relationship, I don''t understand the extent of the situation and I haven''t lived their lives so only they can work out what is best for their futures. It must be hard for her not only having to go through this and publicly but also having the world guessing her next move. I hope she comes out of it ok.

 

[VRBeauty]

Date: 12/21/2009 10:36:26 PM
Author: Tacori E-ring
Only she knows what is right for her. I have learned long ago that what I might do may not be the right thing for someone else. I can only hope she is true to herself, her feelings and that she has someone trusted she can talk to.

You''re right of course, but his actions seem so egregious that unless they had an understanding that extramerital affairs would be OK, I think she would have to leave him if only to preserve her self-respect. She could always re-marry him later if he ever gets his act together... at which point she would be in a much stronger position.

 

[Diamond*Dana]

If I were in her shoes, I would divorce him, no question.

 

[Kaleigh]

Date: 12/21/2009 10:36:26 PM
Author: Tacori E-ring
Only she knows what is right for her. I have learned long ago that what I might do may not be the right thing for someone else. I can only hope she is true to herself, her feelings and that she has someone trusted she can talk to.

Yes!!!

 

[Tacori E-ring]

Date: 12/21/2009 10:47:55 PM
Author: VRBeauty

Date: 12/21/2009 10:36:26 PM

Author: Tacori E-ring

Only she knows what is right for her. I have learned long ago that what I might do may not be the right thing for someone else. I can only hope she is true to herself, her feelings and that she has someone trusted she can talk to.

You''re right of course, but his actions seem so egregious that unless they had an understanding that extramerital affairs would be OK, I think she would have to leave him if only to preserve her self-respect. She could always re-marry him later if he ever gets his act together... at which point she would be in a much stronger position.

I respectfully disagree. Unless you are in her shoes you do *NOT* know what you would do. We can pretend but they are just meaningless threats and empty promises. Maybe you would leave. Maybe you wouldn''t. We do not know what goes on behind closed doors. I am NOT defending his actions. What he did was disgusting and horrible in so many ways but she has NO reason to be embarrassed or lose her self-respect. His actions are not a reflection on her. They are his sins, his choices and his mistakes. It might feel nice confessing someone else''s sins but no good will ever come from it. Leaving him is not the only way she can grow as a stronger person. Point is there is no right or wrong answer. It is her choice and like Penn stated none of my business.

 

[miraclesrule]

Interestingly, Larry King repeated an interview with Tiger from 1998 wherein he flatly states he does not want to get married. He then sort of back pedals and states that he will when he is ready and that it will probably be to someone who ends up being a friend of a friend because it is too difficult to get to know someone when he is touring so much.

His answer to the question of whether or not he wanted to get married really stuck in my head. Hindsight. I believe he got married because it was what he was expected to do and it was all too convenient for his media hyped up "image". The more he played into the "image", the more money he made through endorsements.

It would explain why he could so callously contact his lovers while his wife was giving birth. So very sad for Elin to be in this position, because it appears that she really loved him and the marriage wasn''t just publicity for her.

 

[iheartscience]

Um...YES. He is unbelievably disgusting and obviously doesn''t care about her or her well-being in the least.

 

[VRBeauty]

Date: 12/21/2009 11:08:53 PM
Author: Tacori E-ring

Date: 12/21/2009 10:47:55 PM

Author: VRBeauty

Date: 12/21/2009 10:36:26 PM


Author: Tacori E-ring


Only she knows what is right for her. I have learned long ago that what I might do may not be the right thing for someone else. I can only hope she is true to herself, her feelings and that she has someone trusted she can talk to.

You''re right of course, but his actions seem so egregious that unless they had an understanding that extramerital affairs would be OK, I think she would have to leave him if only to preserve her self-respect. She could always re-marry him later if he ever gets his act together... at which point she would be in a much stronger position.

I respectfully disagree. Unless you are in her shoes you do *NOT* know what you would do. We can pretend but they are just meaningless threats and empty promises. Maybe you would leave. Maybe you wouldn''t. We do not know what goes on behind closed doors. I am NOT defending his actions. What he did was disgusting and horrible in so many ways but she has NO reason to be embarrassed or lose her self-respect. His actions are not a reflection on her. They are his sins, his choices and his mistakes. It might feel nice confessing someone else''s sins but no good will ever come from it. Leaving him is not the only way she can grow as a stronger person. Point is there is no right or wrong answer. It is her choice and like Penn stated none of my business.

No, I''m not in her shoes and I don''t really know what I would do if I were. And you''re absolutely right that this shouldn''t reflect on Elin and it shouldn''t reflect how she feels about herself. I think my post probably show that I am all about redemption and second chances. There have been more than a few PS threads along the lines of "is infidelity a deal-breaker for you?" My answer is... it depends. No absolutes. But... given what (admittedly little) I know about this situation, if I were in Elin''s shoes, I''d be walking.

As for whether it''s our business or not... meh. I also comment on jewelry, and wedding dresses, and tangled family situations that are none of my business. I''m pretty sure Elin isn''t checking this thread before deciding what she''ll do next, and I doubt that venturing out with this opinion will damage my soul...

 

[iheartscience]

The latest update is that police have entered the Woods/Nordegren home, presumably to escort Elin out because she''s leaving and taking the kids back to Sweden. link

 

[swingirl]

He had unprotected sex with many women. That means he put his wife's life and that of his kids (the one his wife was pregnant with) in danger of contracting HIV. That is unforgivable in my opinion. I don't think it has anything to do with love.

Of course, she should time it so that she gets a huge amount of money.

 

[trillionaire]

She will have a better life without him, so I vote leave. She is beautiful, with two beautiful children, and I am sure some other man would be happy to marry her and treat her well, if that is what she wants for herself and her family. If I was in her shoes, I''d take my chances on new love. Tiger obviously has issues, and ones that are too deep for me to reasonably take on.

Also, for me, cheating is 100% a dealbreaker, but I recognize that it is not for everyone. However, the Tiger/Elin situation is pretty over the top by any standards...

 

[Po10472]

I voted yes.

She needs to think about herself and her 2 children because Tiger hasn''t thought about anyone but himself.

Unfortunately, he''s evolved into this uber successful, arrogant man with a god complex, who does what he wants regardless of the consequences. He has his own best interests at heart cos he''s too arrogant to see that he could a) get caught and b) hurt people.

What bothers me about all of this is that his management and the people around him have probably known this has been going on and taken steps to facilitate a lot of his affairs.

I feel really sorry for Elin, she has been completely and utterly humiliated in public and probably feels violated. Trust is the basis of every relationship, how could she ever trust this man again, the man who''s supposed to love and cherish her and the children they have? The damage, in my opinion, cannot be undone and if she stays then she is a very foolish woman.

She should try and get enough money to live on and start a new life with her children and move home to be with her family and friends in Sweden. Oh and shove a 9 iron up his jacksie before she goes!!!

 

[bee*]

I voted yes as well, so long as that is what she wants to do. He cheated so many times on her, could have passed any number of stds on to her-there is no way I would stay married to someone like that.

 

[janinegirly]

Looks like a landslide. It''s a question of pride to me--I don''t see how anyone could look the other way after all these "transgressions" particularly while a newlywed/pregnant, and stilll have any self-respect left! Not to mention the text where he said he didn''t have such a connection at home! I mean any one of these doings would be enough for me to leave, but all together??

Still, celeb / political wives never cease to amaze me (and not in a good way) with how willing they are to kick pride to the curb for whatever bigger cause they''re after. McGreevey''s wife was the worst...just standing there while he basically insulted their marriage on live television!