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Star101

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Thanks to all those who reponded in my previous thread regarding settings. The general consensus seemed to be Mark Morrell over Leon. I have a new dilema now. Do I got for the Petite Sunburst or Petite Torchiere? To complicate things more I also like the Vatche Swan.

At first I only considered the Sunburst but I''ve seen some pictures and threads about the Torchiere and Swan and now I''m stuck stuck stuck. I''ve been thinking all weekend and I need your input please!

My ring size is between 3 and 3.5 (depends on the weather) and the diamond is slightly under a carat.

The different styles can be viewed here: http://www.mwmjewelry.com/
http://shop.goodoldgold.com/index.cfm/a/catalog.prodshow/vid/36748/catid/229


I know this topic has been beaten to death but I need help in deciding
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I look forward to your opinions.
 
Well, I''m biased, because my previous diamond was set in a Vatche setting (not the Swan, though). I think the Swan is a more unusual setting, and is very graceful. So the Swan gets my vote!
 
This might be easier, and the link didn''t work, for me anyway.

MM PT


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MM PS

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Vatche Swan

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I vote the Sunburst.
 
MM PS! SOOO elegant!
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My favourite of the three is the Petite Torchiere. It has that little extra something special with the diamonds in the crown that make it so unique and gorgeous.

For some reason I don't like the side view of the Swan because those diamonds protrude out and they look like tiny eyeballs to me.

The Petite Sunburst is gorgeous, but compared to the PT just not as special IMO.

ETA: Thanks Ellen for providing the pics
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If you are talking about the MM petite torchiere with diamonds in the head that would be the one for me.

If you are talking NO diamonds in the head then I would go with the MM P sunburst.
 
Oh Ellen, thanks for that underside photo of the MWM.
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Star, I don''t think you can go wrong here. I really love the Swan but haven''t seen it in person, and it''s my favorite e-ring setting that I have found on PS outside of Morrell''s work. I have seen Mark Morrell''s work in person and it''s flawless. Just liquid perfection and perfectly balanced. In person and life size, the heartprongs are much more dainty.

You''re picking from a couple of excellent options. If you go with Mark Morrell, I agree with tyty on 1) PT w/ diamonds 2) Psunburst w/o diamonds. 3) would be the Swan for me, in that order.

Good luck and have fun.
 
The PT
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I''m an absolute sucker for surprise diamonds so I would definitely go with the petite torchiere. It''s a lovely classic solitare with a touch of something extra that you don''t see every day.
 
I have drooled over the Mark Morrell settings also. They are both so beautiful but I think my fave is the Petite Torchiere. So elegant!
 
With a diamond under a carat, you may want to consider a four prong setting, as 6 prongs may overpower the center diamond visually. Also note that the more prongs you have, the less light you have entering the stone at various angles. As long as the 4 prongs are solid and preferably in platinum, the setting will be extremely secure. If the setting is in white gold, even 6 prongs may not help you, especially if they are thin, because white gold is less dense than platinum and thus wears down faster, requiring prongs to be retipped if they are too worn down to maintain long term security. I know these issues have more to do with long term durability than design but they are important factors in assessing the overall value of a setting.
 
Thank you for your responses everyone and a special thanks to Ellen for posting the pictures.
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To answer some of your questions, yes if I went with the PT then it would be with the surprise diamonds although I''m not sure how noticeable they will be in real life.


Date: 8/24/2009 5:14:09 PM
Author: Engagement Ring Expert
With a diamond under a carat, you may want to consider a four prong setting, as 6 prongs may overpower the center diamond visually. Also note that the more prongs you have, the less light you have entering the stone at various angles. As long as the 4 prongs are solid and preferably in platinum, the setting will be extremely secure. If the setting is in white gold, even 6 prongs may not help you, especially if they are thin, because white gold is less dense than platinum and thus wears down faster, requiring prongs to be retipped if they are too worn down to maintain long term security. I know these issues have more to do with long term durability than design but they are important factors in assessing the overall value of a setting.
I considered 4 prong settings but I like the look of 6 prongs better because they make the diamond look rounder IMO. The setting will be in platinum regardless of which one I finally go with. Please correct me if I''m wrong but I thought with ideal cut diamonds (i.e. H&A) it doesn''t matter if there is less light entereing from the sides because the light goes in and out through the center... is this wrong??
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Once again thanks for your replies and please keep your opinions and suggestions coming!!
 
Date: 8/24/2009 7:14:05 PM
Author: Star101
Thank you for your responses everyone and a special thanks to Ellen for posting the pictures.
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To answer some of your questions, yes if I went with the PT then it would be with the surprise diamonds although I''m not sure how noticeable they will be in real life.



Date: 8/24/2009 5:14:09 PM
Author: Engagement Ring Expert
With a diamond under a carat, you may want to consider a four prong setting, as 6 prongs may overpower the center diamond visually. Also note that the more prongs you have, the less light you have entering the stone at various angles. As long as the 4 prongs are solid and preferably in platinum, the setting will be extremely secure. If the setting is in white gold, even 6 prongs may not help you, especially if they are thin, because white gold is less dense than platinum and thus wears down faster, requiring prongs to be retipped if they are too worn down to maintain long term security. I know these issues have more to do with long term durability than design but they are important factors in assessing the overall value of a setting.
I considered 4 prong settings but I like the look of 6 prongs better because they make the diamond look rounder IMO. The setting will be in platinum regardless of which one I finally go with. Please correct me if I''m wrong but I thought with ideal cut diamonds (i.e. H&A) it doesn''t matter if there is less light entereing from the sides because the light goes in and out through the center... is this wrong??
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Once again thanks for your replies and please keep your opinions and suggestions coming!!

I really like the PT too! Actually, I like the prongs for the PS but I''m one for surprise diamonds as well. My brother is the same as you in regards to 4 prong vs 6 prong and I see where you''re coming from about it making it rounder
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. I''ve seen some 4 pronged ones that did a good job of making the rounds look like rounds instead of a princess though.
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Date: 8/24/2009 7:14:05 PM
Author: Star101
Thank you for your responses everyone and a special thanks to Ellen for posting the pictures.
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To answer some of your questions, yes if I went with the PT then it would be with the surprise diamonds although I''m not sure how noticeable they will be in real life.



Date: 8/24/2009 5:14:09 PM
Author: Engagement Ring Expert
With a diamond under a carat, you may want to consider a four prong setting, as 6 prongs may overpower the center diamond visually. Also note that the more prongs you have, the less light you have entering the stone at various angles. As long as the 4 prongs are solid and preferably in platinum, the setting will be extremely secure. If the setting is in white gold, even 6 prongs may not help you, especially if they are thin, because white gold is less dense than platinum and thus wears down faster, requiring prongs to be retipped if they are too worn down to maintain long term security. I know these issues have more to do with long term durability than design but they are important factors in assessing the overall value of a setting.
I considered 4 prong settings but I like the look of 6 prongs better because they make the diamond look rounder IMO. The setting will be in platinum regardless of which one I finally go with. Please correct me if I''m wrong but I thought with ideal cut diamonds (i.e. H&A) it doesn''t matter if there is less light entereing from the sides because the light goes in and out through the center... is this wrong??
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Once again thanks for your replies and please keep your opinions and suggestions coming!!
You are very welcome (as are the others who thanked me), no problem!

Light does indeed go into a well cut diamond from the top and returns the same way, so you are on the right track. While I have heard the argument for the number of prongs and whether it makes a round look square or not, I''ve never heard anyone mention that the prongs would hamper with light return. I''m not saying it can''t happen, but with a very well cut stone, I think you''ll be just fine.
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Also, I wore a 4 prong WG setting for 24 years, 24/7, and never lost the stone, or even came close. If the setting is well made, and that''s key, one can have a safe 4 prong setting in WG.

And it''s funny the number of prongs came up today, as I just saved a pic I came across earlier that shows one of each, and I saved it for such a discussion. See what you think.

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I''m going through the exact same problem as you! I LOVE all 3 settings and hope to have 1 of them in the near future.
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I like the PT then the Swan and then the PS in that order. If you decide not to go with surprise diamonds then I think the PS looks better than the PT without the lil diamonds. Good luck!
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p.s. thanks Ellen for the 4 prong vs 6 prong comparison picture. Very useful!
 
I saw the PT!
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Date: 8/25/2009 4:07:19 PM
Author: Brown.Eyed.Girl
I saw the PT!
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Oooh what did it look like in real life?
 
Torchiere!!!! It''s my most favorite setting of all time... It is just so stunning and simple and elegant....

Can''t wait to see what you decide!
 
I''m really fond of the Petite Torchiere as well.

Mark''s workmanship is superb. I''ve never seen such a "liquid" finish. I appraise his work on the same level as high end Cartier''s or Tiffanys. Not cheap, but worth every penny.

Leon is the same. Magnificent creativity and workmanship. Leon''s work tends to be more light, while Mark''s tends to be more bold.

Next ring I buy for a woman will be from one of these two gentleman.
 
Thank you for the picture Ellen. I''ve saved it and thank you all for chiming in... I''m still torn but slightly favouring the petite torchiere.


Date: 8/25/2009 9:05:43 PM
Author: Richard Sherwood
I''m really fond of the Petite Torchiere as well.

Mark''s workmanship is superb. I''ve never seen such a ''liquid'' finish. I appraise his work on the same level as high end Cartier''s or Tiffanys. Not cheap, but worth every penny.

Leon is the same. Magnificent creativity and workmanship. Leon''s work tends to be more light, while Mark''s tends to be more bold.

Next ring I buy for a woman will be from one of these two gentleman.
Richard when you say Leon''s work is light and Mark''s is bold does that mean Leon''s solitaire''s are more delicate compared to Mark''s six prong settings?
 
torchiere!
 
I love the Petite Sunburst! Those heart-y prongs are so stunning!
 
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for the Petite Torchiere!
 
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