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Greetings,
I was recently shopping with my g/f at Jared''s. She found a setting she loves, and we have been to a dozen places. I can''t find this setting anywhere else locally.
The price on the setting at Jared''s is very competitive.

I am looking for an AGS 000 D-G, VS diamond between about 1 and 1.25. Blue Nile signature diamonds seem to be about 1 to 1.5k cheaper than a ''Peerless'' diamond from Jared. Or another way to think about it is for the same money I am getting about 3-4 color grades or 3 clarity grades better online.

Can anyone post their experiences with buying the stone online and setting it locally?

My options are to either buy the whole thing from Jared''s and either spend more or sacrifice quality or buy the stone online and
set it locally. This could either mean having Jared set it or just buy the setting from Jared and have someone else set the ring.
Does anyone have a recommendation for the most painless way to buy the stone online and have it set locally and still
get decent service on the ring?

Thanks!
 
First, do a search of "Jared''s" on here and you can read about how many bad experiences people have had with them, from meh stones to ruining prongs during setting, to chipping quite a few stones during setting and then not taking responsibility for it.

Second, whatever you''re looking at can be gotten elsewhere. Jared''s carries lines that are sold all over the place.

Third, if you think buying a stone online somehow equals a lower quality stone, you should stop shopping and start reading up here. One has nothing to do with the other (and this is coming from someone who''s not bought online, but I''ve seen plenty of gorgeous stones here that were). You think Jared''s is the best place to buy a stone? I''d re think that!
 
Surfgirl, re-read Griffendude...he sees things the way you do.

Griff, you might consider reading up here on how Jeweler''s Mutual can insure you. It takes steps. Buy both pieces. Bring both to an appraiser to see their condition and to appraise before setting. Back to Jareds for setting. Back to appraisal for final appraisal. You can get there.
 
Can you post a pic of the setting? The one time I found a setting I liked at Jared I had no problem finding it online. You might be able to get the whole package onilne instead from the same seller, and that would solve your problem.
 
My original ering and wband were from Jared''s and I had NOTHING but problems with the workmanship of the rings, not to mention the stones in the rings were terrible quality. I also own a signature ideal cut diamond from BlueNile and won''t make that mistake again. They are NOT necessarially good cuts. Please, do not buy a stone from Jared. I understand finding a setting at Jared''s, myself and many of my friends did. I''d rather see you go elsewhere for all of it, but at least get the stone from a reputable PS vendor. MUCH better deal and MUCH better quality, I assure you. Aside from the poor quality, I had nothing but problems with Jared setting my stone. 5 years, numerous adjustments, and 1 new head later it was never ever right. And every time I entered that store they treated me like gold UNTIL they found out my stone was not purchased form them. I''m sorry to be so negative.......but hopefully that''s why you''re on here, to get good advice. I had to share since I have had dealings with both roads you''re researching and unfortunatley I don''t have much good to say about either. If I had to pick between Jared and BN for a stone I''d go with BN. But check out WF, GoodOldGold, etc. before buying anywhere else.
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And if you do get a setting from BN and a stone elsewhere, I would NOT let Jared set it.
 
RG, I was responding to this part of his post which caught my eye:

"My options are to either buy the whole thing from Jared''s and either spend more or sacrifice quality or buy the stone online and set it locally."

It is a bit confusing reading it again so I''m not sure what''s being said.
 
To the OP: please consider trying to find a similar if not the same setting that you found at Jared on-line and trying another on-line vendor, i.e., Good Old Gold or WhiteFlash for the center stone. You not only will save money, but you''ll likely get better quality of stone. Pricescopers are very adept at finding settings on-line or finding suitable alternatives. So if you have pics or if you find out who makes the setting from Jared''s I am sure that someone here can help you. Or if you can''t get that information, maybe you can describe the characteristics of the setting.

Based on what I have read here on PS regarding other people''s experiences at Jared''s, I''d be leery of them attempting to set my stone.
 
Surfgirl,
Sorry if I was confusing. What I mean is that online I can clearly get 3-4 color grades and 3 clarity grades BETTER than a comparable
stone through Jared at a similar price. I certainly want to buy online, just want to find the best way to choose a jeweler to set
the stone...should it be Jared or somelse entirely...
Thanks!
 
You should definitely buy the diamond online! I''d suggest using Whiteflash.com or GoodOldGold.com over BlueNile, though. They have a lot more information on their diamonds and aren''t just drop-shippers like BlueNile is.

As far as the setting, if you can post a photo of it here or describe it in detail, I would bet that we can find one exactly like it, or close to exactly like it. Or, you can get one custom made-I''d recommend Whiteflash.com for that. They custom made my setting and it''s awesome!

As for getting the diamond set, definitely get whoever sells you the diamond to set the diamond for you. That way they''ll most likely cover it just in case something happens to the diamond when it''s set. If you do get a setting either from Jared''s or somewhere else, you should be able to send the setting to Whiteflash or GoodOldGold and get them to set the diamond you bought from them in it. Usually there is a setting fee for this-not sure how much it would be.

What''s your budget for the diamond? I''m sure we could dig around and find you some good ones!
 
Thanks for the clarification. I think I hadn''t had my morning coffee when I read your first post!

A lot of people here have bought stones online, then sent them elsewhere for setting. There''s a process for insuring the stone throughout the setting/shipping process though I dont know how to explain it. If you do a search I think there have been some recent discussions about how folks do it.
 
Thanks for the input, although the idea of shipping a setting out to an online retailer makes me a little bit queasy...how do I know they would give the same setting? Not replace all the stones? Maybe I am too paranoid...

I have a budget of about 10-11k. My setting is inexpensive at Jared, a Scott Kay which I want in Palladium for 1500. That means I am looking at
about 8500-9500 or so for the stone. I am pretty sure I can get close to 1.25c AGS OOO, F or better, VS or better, for this price. My brief research has not shown Blue Nile to be more expensive than other online retailers but I don''t know as much as you all on here, so any advice is appreciated!
 
Scott Kay Setting''s Don''t know what the setting looks like but here might be a good place to start your search :)

GL
 
Date: 11/7/2007 12:14:51 AM
Author: Griffendude
Thanks for the input, although the idea of shipping a setting out to an online retailer makes me a little bit queasy...how do I know they would give the same setting? Not replace all the stones? Maybe I am too paranoid...

I have a budget of about 10-11k. My setting is inexpensive at Jared, a Scott Kay which I want in Palladium for 1500. That means I am looking at
about 8500-9500 or so for the stone. I am pretty sure I can get close to 1.25c AGS OOO, F or better, VS or better, for this price. My brief research has not shown Blue Nile to be more expensive than other online retailers but I don''t know as much as you all on here, so any advice is appreciated!
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Depending upon which on-line vendor you choose, your fears should be quelled. I doubt any reputable vendor is going to risk their reputation in switiching settings or stones, especially for a standard Scott Kay setting. I might be mistaken, but I don''t think Blue Nile will set their stones in another vendor''s setting, but I could be wrong. Why don''t you contact Bill @ Pearlman''s Jewelers?? He carries Scott Kay settings and is really nice to work with he could also advise you about getting your stone set.

As far as stones with the specs you mentioned you should do a search either on the WhiteFlash or Good Old Gold website just for comparison''s sake. Both of these vendors have a lot of in-house stones that are really excellent in quality and should match your parameters and budget.
 
For example, here is a stone w/in your parameters at WF: http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-260695.htm. Add the price for the setting ($1500) and you are looking at about $10900.

Here is another stone from Good Old Gold: http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/3585/; with the setting cost the total would be around $10600.

I suggest these two vendors and these two stones because you get all the information you need (e.g., idealscope images, ASET images, crown and pavillion angles, etc.) to make an informed decision. If Blue Nile can give you all of that information, and the same quality of diamond for a competitive price then by all means go that route.
 
Thank you onedrop, I like the amount of cut info with Whiteflash...

I am really curious most about people''s experiences, if any, of getting a diamond set locally that
was purchased online...has this worked for anyone? I think my g/f really wants to feel like she will be given
good service when she goes in to service her ring.
Thanks!
 
There are lots of jewelers who are pretty much specializing in this these days but it will depend on your local marketplace. It takes a bit of practice to get good at this and there are a few stores out there that take an attitude about setting a stone that you didn’t sell them. That is, of course, their choice and they don’t have to take your money if they don’t want it but in most places this is getting easier. Many will require that you have an appraisal documenting the condition before they start and make sure you get it appraised when they’re done to document the condition and quality of craftsmanship. Obviously you’re better off having this done by someone other than the store who did the work. I see several of this sort of job every day and I’m just one appraiser in a relatively small market (Denver) so I think you shouldn’t have too much time finding a skilled craftsman close to home.

Be sure to discuss with the jeweler the liability issues of breakage during setting. This is not generally covered by the diamond seller and different jewelers have different policies about it. If you're jeweler won't take breakage risk on an item that they didn't sell, consider either finding a different jeweler or getting insurance on the piece before the work begins.

Neil Beaty
GG(GIA) ICGA(AGS) NAJA
Professional Jewelry Appraisals in Denver
 
''Dude, just to clarify, an ering doesn''t really need to be "serviced" per se. Just cleaned - which can be done at home and which most here choose to do themselves, and have the prongs checked occasionally - which can be done by your usual local jeweler. Any jeweler who refuses to check prongs because you didn''t buy the ring from them is an #ss, in my opinion. I''ve never had anyone cop an attitude over that but then again, I ask people whom I''ve purchased jewelry from in the past, to check my prongs and they''re more than happy to do so!
 
why not telling us what area you're in so we can give you specific places.

you could try buying the stone in a B&M that has a good online presence. GOG in long island for example. then get the jared setting set in the B&M where you bought the diamond. this way the B&M will have a vested interest in the ering and service your gf's ering better.
 
Date: 11/7/2007 11:09:54 AM
Author: Griffendude
Thank you onedrop, I like the amount of cut info with Whiteflash...

I am really curious most about people''s experiences, if any, of getting a diamond set locally that
was purchased online...has this worked for anyone? I think my g/f really wants to feel like she will be given
good service when she goes in to service her ring.
Thanks!
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Well I think it depends on the setting you choose and your level of ''pickyness''. I bought a stone online (through whiteflash) had it re-set into my original setting at a local B&M.

It was a disaster. They didn''t have the precision and eye for detail that I have become accustomed to here on PS. I eventually took it to my out of town jewler who had to REBUILD the halo on my setting that the local B&M store managed to ruin! In total, I was 5 weeks without my e-ring. If I had been wise at the onset, I would have and SHOULD HAVE shipped my setting to WF who would have removed the old stone, re-set the new one (probably flawlessly from what I''ve seen here with other PS''ers) and had it all shipped back to me (insured) within a week.

Live and learn, yes. The question is...are you ready to take the positive testimonials of countless PS''ers who have had success with the online vendors??

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PS. I''m not sure buying a setting alone from a B&M would ever guarantee good service. This I''m not sure about...but I have not recieved any service, special or otherwise, from the B&M store my husband bought the setting from. This is just my 2 cents
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Date: 11/7/2007 1:54:54 PM
Author: Griffendude
Thanks for everyone''s input. My local market is Minneapolis if anyone has any specific jeweler recommendations.

The Scott Kay setting I am looking for is this one but in Palladium. Jared is selling it for $1500.


http://www.solomonbrothers.com/Search/JewelrySearchDetails.asp?sSKU=82152


This setting is hard to find online I believe because it is very new.
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call
Pearlmans for a quote. they will price match any advertised price you can find and may even beat it. they can get in any scott kay setting even if it''s not on their site, make sure to ask for the quote in palladium. i have done business with them and they are wonderful.
 
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Date: 11/7/2007 11:09:54 AM
Author: Griffendude
Thank you onedrop, I like the amount of cut info with Whiteflash...

I am really curious most about people''s experiences, if any, of getting a diamond set locally that
was purchased online...has this worked for anyone? I think my g/f really wants to feel like she will be given
good service when she goes in to service her ring.
Thanks!
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Well I think it depends on the setting you choose and your level of ''pickyness''. I bought a stone online (through whiteflash) had it re-set into my original setting at a local B&M.

It was a disaster. They didn''t have the precision and eye for detail that I have become accustomed to here on PS. I eventually took it to my out of town jewler who had to REBUILD the halo on my setting that the local B&M store managed to ruin! In total, I was 5 weeks without my e-ring. If I had been wise at the onset, I would have and SHOULD HAVE shipped my setting to WF who would have removed the old stone, re-set the new one (probably flawlessly from what I''ve seen here with other PS''ers) and had it all shipped back to me (insured) within a week.

Live and learn, yes. The question is...are you ready to take the positive testimonials of countless PS''ers who have had success with the online vendors??

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PS. I''m not sure buying a setting alone from a B&M would ever guarantee good service. This I''m not sure about...but I have not recieved any service, special or otherwise, from the B&M store my husband bought the setting from. This is just my 2 cents
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I agree with this last statement, and would add ''buying an entire ring (setting + diamond) from a B&M would not guarantee special service!'' My DH bought my ring from a ''local chain'' after getting a price match to an on-line diamond. I''ve gone into the place twice since I''ve had ring and they don''t care at all that I got my ring from there! No special service. And, when I got married a few weeks ago, I found out the tiny jewelry store in my little town would polish my platinum ring. I sent my DH to get it done, and they did it for FREE! And I had bought nothing from them ever.
So, I don''t think buying it in a B&M really means anything as far as service goes!
 
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