saw my ring this weekend!!

[seannaleigh]

So my boyfriend and i went to the local jewlery store to just look around and wound up being there for well over and hour and i showed the jeweler some pictures of rings i liked one being the danial k split shank ring. he was so nice and said he would make anything i wanted. he also said he would make a wax sculputre of your ring to see what it looks like before u actually would have to buy iit. well anyway after looking at the pictures we brought with us he said had just made a replica tiffanys ring and he thought i would like it, well i surely did love it. it was the tiffanys legacy ring except the center cut was a round diamond, i absolutley loved it and it sparkled so nicely!! the stats were a 1.5 center stone color: H clarity: si1 and the setting was about 1,400. he said in total it would be a 6,800 dollar ring. let me just tell you it was the most amazing ring ive ever seen and i cant stop thiking about. now its just time to wait it out. so does that sound like a good buy? any input would be great. thanks

 

[Mara]

Hmm a 1.5c H SI RB for $5,000? I wanna know where you shop....well maybe not.

What is the cut on this thing?? If it''s a round, you need more info. MUCH more info before you can consider a purchase.

 

[dani13]

Sounds a bit suspicious....I would want to know a lot more about this stone(and the setting) before I bought it....

 

[seannaleigh]

i will have to find out more, he did say he was going to give us his neighbor discount since he wound up knowing my boyfriend, but what do u think a ring with those statistics would cost, a lot more?

 

[Demelza]

Ditto -- that sounds awfully low for a diamond of that size and (supposed) quality AND a custom made ring. I''d be a bit skeptical.

 

[Kaleigh]

You haven't given us enough information except the carat weight and clarity. But my answer is yeah a stone that size would go for a lot more and would think that it perhaps doesn't have a great cut. Cut is key. You need to read the tutorials so you can go in stores as an informed consumer.

 

[ame]

Do a search on this site for a price for an ideal or H&A cut that size, color and clarity to get a feel for a price.

That sounds pretty but Id definitely research that stone.

 

[glaucomflecken]

i have a 1.52 rb H SI1 GIA certed, AGA class 1 stone and we paid almost 2x that a few months ago.

 

[thirston]

Listen to these people

they know what they''re saying.
I just bought a round brilliant 1.2ct of a not too unsimilar quality, and it was a good deal more as well.
Caveat Emptor

With that being said. If you love the setting and the stone... buy it. Just be aware of all the facts. If the stone is pretty to your eye, fits your (his) budget, and you are informed of why it is priced as it is, then all is well.

-Thirston

 

[TimeTraveller]

Folks, don't ruin it for her. Seannaleigh says she's in love with her diamond and that's really all that matters.

Given the price, we can absolutely assume it's no where near an ideal AGS0 cut and in most likelihood the diamond isn't graded by GIA or AGS. The color may *not* actually be rated H by GIA or AGS, but that doesn't really matter. If the original poster loves the rock and it "speaks" to her, then that's all that matters. Even if the 1.5 caret diamond was actually J color and the cut was only rated good, it's still a very good price at $5400.

So as long as seannaleigh enjoys her diamond, that's all that matters.

Enjoy your diamond seannaleigh!

 

[Mara]

Time Traveler, the intention is not to ruin anything for seanna...

Her original post was 'does this sound like a good buy, any input would help'. People are just giving their input. By all means if someone loves something, then buy it! But to come to a diamond forum where education is the big thing and ask does this sound okay and what do you think, people will tag the red flags and at least tell someone to get more information.

Bottom line is that someone could think they are getting the deal of the century paying $5k for a 1.5 H SI stone when in reality that stone should cost about twice that if not a bit more. I would seriously wonder WHAT about the 1.5 H SI is off to make it 1/2 price. Cut, clarity, color, could be all three. So at least go into buying something knowing exactly what you are getting. Alot of people would be a bit miffed if they bought something and found out a year later it's something else, even if it was 'too good' of a deal.

So the bottom line to anyone is BUY INFORMED. If that ring speaks to you and you adore it regardless of whether it's really an H or a 1.5c or well-cut, by all means, get it. But if someone comes on here and asks for assistance or opinions, then saying 'oh it sounds great, if you like it then buy it', with no other information or opinions on what people REALLY may be thinking, then we aren't really assisting a newbie at all with possibly a more informed purchase, but rather just enabling ANY purchase at all.

Edited to add: Seanna, you can also have the jeweler build that same ring with a diamond of your own choosing, you do not have to be stuck with whatever stone is in the ring, if you so desire! Just an FYI, know all your options before plunking down multiple thousands of $$!

 

[TimeTraveller]

Mara, I understand what you''re saying but that doesn''t negate what I said.

If I were in her place and asked the same question, you don''t think it would completely ruin the excitement I had for this diamond if many posters said that I should be suspicious and that the diamond should cost twice as much as I paid for it--implying that I must have been ripped off?

When I read posts and when I care enough to reply, I generally try to understand the attitude of the poster before I compose a response. If a poster came on here very matter of fact and posted the objective stats with no emotions (or biased) at all towards the diamond and asked for a price appraisal, I would reply with the kind critical and dispassoinated response.

But when an extremely excited gal comes on here posting about her newly purchased stone and declaring in her post "let me just tell you it was the most amazing ring ive ever seen and i cant stop thiking about. now its just time to wait it out." I certainly will compose a response which thoughtfully takes into consideration of her excitement.

I won''t speak for seannaleigh, but I will say that I certainly would be disappointed with the responses and my enthusiasm would certainly diminish after reading some of the posts in this thread. That''s all I meant about ruining it for her. And despite the sole intention to educate, it will affect her enthusiasm for her newly purchased diamond.

Date: 8/22/2005 1:27:34 AM
Author: Mara
Time Traveler, the intention is not to ruin anything for seanna...


Her original post was ''does this sound like a good buy, any input would help''. People are just giving their input. By all means if someone loves something, then buy it! But to come to a diamond forum where education is the big thing and ask does this sound okay and what do you think, people will tag the red flags and at least tell someone to get more information.

 

[dani13]

TT, I dont think ANY of us are deliberately going out of our way to offend or hurt Seanna...she came onto a diamond forum and ask our opinions as educated consumers- people she does not even know- about a diamond she saw. Yes, she is excited, and we understand, but we are still trying to help her make an educated decision. I also agree that she should get what she is in love with and what speaks to her, however, she should not get ripped off in the process. With an investment such a diamond, a consumer should be educated enough that they know exactly what they are getting. If she gets all of that info and is still fine with it, then she should go for it. But maybe she would want to know all of her options before she does anything. And that is why we are here. To help her find out what her options are and to help her make a good decision from a buyer''s standpoint.

 

[MissAva]

TT I get what you are saying. But I get where the others are coming from too. As a girl we want "perfect" even if our ideals about that differs. It is also hard to know how something sparkles in real life when you are seeing it under jewelry lighting.
I you love it buy it. But ask for some more info and the experts here like Belle will help you out in terms of what you are getting for your dollar.
PS Are you allowed to take pictures?

 

[icekid]

I pretty much agree with Mara and Dani. She came here asking for advice. If she was not interested in it, she would not have come here to ask for it. Would you prefer that people lie to her??

seannaleigh- Perhaps if you can get the ring appraised before you buy, that would be really helpful. It''s just that the price is SO low that it''s really suspicious as a H/ SI1. $1400 for a setting that ornate is also very low.

 

[heart prongs]

Time Traveler...when I came on PS two years ago, Mara was the one who helped me see the importance of a well-cut diamond in determining sparkle and brilliance. You should have seen the diamonds I was asking this group to rate! It''s good to be educated...Mara may not sugarcoat things, but she always presents a well-thought out, knowledgeable, and thorough response...you''ll see over time that she knows what she''s talking about and she''s just trying to be helpful!

klr

prongs

 

[TimeTraveller]

Date: 8/22/2005 9:38:27 AM
Author: heart prongs
Time Traveler...when I came on PS two years ago, Mara was the one who helped me see the importance of a well-cut diamond in determining sparkle and brilliance. You should have seen the diamonds I was asking this group to rate! It''s good to be educated...Mara may not sugarcoat things, but she always presents a well-thought out, knowledgeable, and thorough response...you''ll see over time that she knows what she''s talking about and she''s just trying to be helpful!


klr

prongs

Guys, I wasn''t even directing my first reply in this thread at Mara. Her initial reply to the original poster was quite mild:

Hmm a 1.5c H SI RB for $5,000? I wanna know where you shop....well maybe not. What is the cut on this thing?? If it''s a round, you need more info. MUCH more info before you can consider a purchase.

My msg was more directed towards some of the other posts in this thread. I''m sure Mara knows her stuff--I don''t question that for a minute.

Education is great. I come here looking for it too. That''s why I read so many of the posts here. I just don''t want to see people''s excitement all doused.

But we''ve all voiced our thoughts. I''ll drop it. So long as seannaleigh doesn''t mind, then who am I to intercede on her behalf.

Carry on folks.

 

[seannaleigh]

Ok, i just wanted to start out by saying im sorry for all the conflict i started. i never meant to get people upset with one another. i thank everyone for putting in there thoughts and ideas but as the orignal writer of this thread i think its time to close this one up! thanks again to everyone.... i hope no feelings were hurt.