S!2 Clarity, be honest with me please!

[Lynn B]

Date: 4/3/2008 10:44:25 PM
Author: butterfly 17
diamondseeker, I will have to send out my stone first, but I am finally starting to feel better. Once I speak to Brian, I will know for sure.

Lynn B, I never posted the carat weight, but it is 2.73, 9mm. round. It is bigger than I wanted and I actually would have prefered a 2.38 H VS2, but it was sold, a 2.50 G SI1 that was sold, and 2.43 H SI1 that was not available any more.

I wanted twinning wisps after seeing your stone, as I feel they are the best to have , I didn''t even want feathers (afraid of cracks on the girdle), and no black crystals.

When I saw this plot I was so excited. Exactly what I was looking for and not too many of them. And there are no crystals or feathers, so I was super excited about it.

I even want your setting, but for now, I am getting a simple solitaire.

BTW, who is martha? I am not martha, I am butterfly 17, lol.

Well, cut being equal on all of those, I would DEFINITELY pick the one you are looking at. Bigger, baby, BIGGER!!!

 

[canuk-gal]

Date: 4/3/2008 6:31:51 PM
Author: butterfly 17

Date: 4/3/2008 6:16:21 PM
Author: Ellen
It''s obviously not a super dooper louper, but it would be a pretty diamond. And if they told you it was eyeclean, you can believe them.

I can ultimately say I would be happy with the stone as long as it is truly eyeclean.

HI:

BF17,l you have stated that clarity is your "thing". It might be eye clean--but what about "mind clean"? Would it honestly bug you to know? Or outta sight outta mind?

cheers--Sharon

 

[butterfly 17]

Date: 4/4/2008 12:59:02 AM
Author: lovehersomuch
how much does a diamond like that go for?? and what vendor are you working with?

Hello, this stone is a little over $25K. If you do a search above, you can see the cost of similar size stones. I am working with Whiteflash. I found the stone and asked them to bring it in for me.

 

[butterfly 17]

Date: 4/4/2008 5:46:27 PM
Author: canuk-gal

Date: 4/3/2008 6:31:51 PM
Author: butterfly 17

Date: 4/3/2008 6:16:21 PM
Author: Ellen
It''s obviously not a super dooper louper, but it would be a pretty diamond. And if they told you it was eyeclean, you can believe them.

I can ultimately say I would be happy with the stone as long as it is truly eyeclean.

HI:

BF17,l you have stated that clarity is your ''thing''. It might be eye clean--but what about ''mind clean''? Would it honestly bug you to know? Or outta sight outta mind?

cheers--Sharon

Sharon, that is exactly what I am hoping for.

 

[butterfly 17]

Date: 4/4/2008 2:43:15 PM
Author: Kay

My stone is just under a carat, so it came with a GIA Dossier, which doesn''t show a plot. I can see a faint wisp in your IS image. I think maybe I see something between 9 and 10''clock on the magnified picture, but I can''t be sure if I am seeing the wisp or just facet lines. Of course, what you see with the naked eye will be different than in a hugely magnified photo. I would trust Brian''s eyes. Also, the stone looks like it has great potential, so I think it would be worth the postage to check it out if Brian gives it the thumbs up.

Kay, that''s it, I can clearly see it in the IS image. In the magnified image it is actually at 7''clock and runs to the table.

 

[help123]

I have a princess cut SI2 with twinning wisps. I read every post on this website regarding twinning wisps before we got mine for my engagement ring...

When I was looking and heard "SI2" I was like no way, I am never going to be comfortable with it. And when I saw the GIA report, what a horror, twinning wisps on a GIA are terrifying. Then I saw the stone in person. Sure, from the side I could see it, but from the top view, it was breathtaking, sparkled so much it was almost mesmerizing . To my surprise, the twinning wisps could not be seen with the unaided eye from the top view . The only way I see them is if I literally put the diamond about 2 inches from my face. I struggled for a long time with SI2 before we actually decided to go with it thinking that I would never be comfortable with it. I thought that just knowing it was there would bother me. But I couldn''t have been more wrong. And I still can''t believe I almost passed on it just because it was an SI2. They are a great value. Also, it is a great birthmark, I will always know that it is my stone. Also, I think I did read something somewhere saying that twinning wisps are the more favorable inclusion as opposed to the others.

Hope this helps.

 

[Jenn5504]

ooooh, I think the size, color & clarity of that stone are DREAMY butterfly 17! What awesome bang for the buck, I bet the clarity will absolutely be "out of sight, out of mind.

I''ve purchased 2 SI2 stones from WF, and as you know and as many have already said, if they say it''s eyeclean you can trust them. My last stone was not and they didn''t try to hide that fact AT ALL, they were very upfront and honest about it. My current stone is another "twining wisp SI2" and I LOVE it. It''s just almost impossible for me to comprehend that my current stone is an SI2. I can''t for the life of me find the inclusions in the face up position no matter how hard I try!

WF was very supportive and encouraging about the twining wisps when I was dealing with them on this stone. If the eye-clean factor is TRULY the only issue you''re waivering on, then GET IT. WF has said it''s eye-clean and several of us "twining wisp SI2" owners can speak from experience, they are great!

 

[butterfly 17]

Hello everyone and I just want to thank everyone who chimed in. both against SI and for Si, because I really valued everyone''s opinion and took everyone''s opinion to heart.

Okay, I spoke to Brian yesterday about this stone. He told me that although it was not an ACA, it is a beautiful stone and one he would not hesitate to give to his wife. HE said the Ideal Scope image was good, again, not an ACA, but still pretty good. He said everything else about the stone was great except that if it was an ACA, the pavillion angle would not be greater than 40.9, this one is 41 (actually 40.8 to 41.1 on the sarin).

Now, for the SI2 clarity. He said that this stone had twinning wisps. He said that they are the best inclusions to have when purchasing an SI2 diamond and there is no durabilty issue with twinning wisps. Under close scrutiny, they appear as tiny spider web threads. He told me he found the stone to be eye clean, but then when he called someone else to look at it, she said that she could see something at 8 inches or so from her eyes. Again, he said it was like a thin white spidery line, not like a feather at all which is more in your face and abrupt, I suppose.

I asked him about availability for ACA diamonds in the G/H SI1 clarity around 2.5 cts. and he told me that he had just come from Antwerp and it did not look too good. Right now there is a shortgage and diamond prices are very high and he was not sure when he would be getting any of them in for now. I told him I really wanted to get this by September the lastest and he said that they could keep a look out for it. I think it is a little harder to find stones in this size nowadays. The demand is still there, but the suppy is diminishing.

He also said that I could always get this stone and then when an ACA came up with the specs I wanted, I could always just trade it in for that.


So, what do you guys think?????

 

[dani13]

Hmmmm....Why dont you have it sent to you so you can take a look at it yourself? Sometimes the clarity issue can be so subjective!

 

[butterfly 17]

Date: 4/8/2008 8:48:04 AM
Author: Dani
Hmmmm....Why dont you have it sent to you so you can take a look at it yourself? Sometimes the clarity issue can be so subjective!

Yes, I think I will just have to do that. He told me that I could sent them my diamond in the meantime and pay the difference and then decide what I want when I see the stone. I might just have to do that. Thanks!

 

[Ellen]

Date: 4/8/2008 8:50:06 AM
Author: butterfly 17

Date: 4/8/2008 8:48:04 AM
Author: Dani
Hmmmm....Why dont you have it sent to you so you can take a look at it yourself? Sometimes the clarity issue can be so subjective!

Yes, I think I will just have to do that. He told me that I could sent them my diamond in the meantime and pay the difference and then decide what I want when I see the stone. I might just have to do that. Thanks!

I agree, you need to take a look for yourself.

 

[dani13]

Date: 4/8/2008 8:50:06 AM
Author: butterfly 17

Date: 4/8/2008 8:48:04 AM

Author: Dani

Hmmmm....Why dont you have it sent to you so you can take a look at it yourself? Sometimes the clarity issue can be so subjective!

Yes, I think I will just have to do that. He told me that I could sent them my diamond in the meantime and pay the difference and then decide what I want when I see the stone. I might just have to do that. Thanks!

That's probably what I would do....Keep in mind that you are talking about diamond professionals who are looking into this diamond actually looking for inclusions (e.g. the woman Brian said that examined the diamond). The average person (and even you and I) are not going to see these inclusions (especially wisps!). I would take a look at the stone myself (have your hubby look, friends, etc) and see what they think too. You can always keep it for awhile like Brian said, and then trade up later when another stone that fits your criteria better comes along...