Round diamond help..

[Gothgrrl]

I need help on these 2 round diamonds.

Diamond 1
.535 VS2/D
5.30X5.32X3.17
Depth - 59.7
Table - 57.1
Crown angle - 33.9
Crown % - 14.4
Pav.Angle - 40.8
Pav.% - 42.9
Girdle - Thin to med. faceted
Culet - pointed

 

[Gothgrrl]

Diamond 2
.557 VS2/D
5.31X5.33X3.24
Depth - 61
Table - 56.4
Crown angle - 35
Crown % - 15.3
Pav. angle - 40.7
Pav. % - 42.8
Girdle - Thin to med. faceted
culet - pointed

Which of these diamonds are better. Sorry, but I don''t know much on rounds. Thanks for all your help.

 

[JulieN]

both are fine. I love fire, so I''d go with 2.

 

[belle]

i''d like an idealscope image for further hair splitting

or if you make me choose now, i''ll take #2.

 

[Gothgrrl]

Somehow, I can''t figure out how to post idealscope. If this helps, Diamond 1 has Ex/Ex polish/ symmetry. Diamond 2 has Ideal/Ideal polish symmetry. Thanks for all the help.

 

[BlackIce]

Personally, I would go with number 2. You can check them out on the HCA under "TOOLS" and see how they score.

 

[mrssalvo]

Date: 7/10/2006 8:16:53 AM
Author: belle
i''d like an idealscope image for further hair splitting

or if you make me choose now, i''ll take #2.

same goes for me

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I, personally, would want to see the inclusions before deciding between the two.

 

[BlackIce]

That''s a good point, diamondseeker. Even a certified stone can have an error of 1 to 2 grades on the clarity; and if they are not certed, all bets are off on the accuracy of the grading. Plus, with the location of the inclusions is important, as well as the type of inclusion.

 

[Kaleigh]

Another vote here for #2.

 

[mrssalvo]

Date: 7/11/2006 2:20:46 PM
Author: BlackIce
Even a certified stone can have an error of 1 to 2 grades on the clarity;

I would be very surprised to find AGS or GIA off 1-2 clarity grades

that would be very bad business for either of them..it's known that EGL grades a little softer but they say EGL USA is getting better..

 

[Ellen]

Just for giggles, I ran them both through the HCA.

#1. 0.9 All Ex''s


#2 1.1 3 Ex, VG


Seems either one would be nice, but you''ll get a better spread on #1.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I didn''t really think that the clarity grades would be off, but VS2 can have different kinds of inclusions. For example, if one has inclusions right under the table, and the other has them over to the side, then that might be preferable. One might have feathers and the other might have a carbon spot. I just think you need to know more than the numebrs on a cert when looking at a VS2 or lower clarity stone. The numbers are only one factor to consider.

 

[mrssalvo]

Date: 7/11/2006 2:32:12 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006
I didn''t really think that the clarity grades would be off, but VS2 can have different kinds of inclusions. For example, if one has inclusions right under the table, and the other has them over to the side, then that might be preferable. One might have feathers and the other might have a carbon spot. I just think you need to know more than the numebrs on a cert when looking at a VS2 or lower clarity stone. The numbers are only one factor to consider.

you are right DS. I was assuming, possibly incorrectly, that the stones were both eyeclean..

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I'm would hope a VS2 is eyeclean, but surely we'd all want to see both certs and the inclusion plots before deciding, right?

ETA: I mean when the numbers on both stones are good, you look farther than that to determine which one to buy.

 

[Ellen]

I always thought VS2 was eye clean, but I''ve read on here more than once that sometimes they''re not.

 

[mrssalvo]

Date: 7/11/2006 2:36:26 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006
I''m would hope a VS2 is eyeclean, but surely we''d all want to see both certs and the inclusion plots before deciding, right?


ETA: I mean when the numbers on both stones are good, you look farther than that to determine which one to buy.

yes you are right. I actually still have not seen the inclusion plot on my stone, nor the stone itself and am relying completely on the vendor''s eyes. but in most circumstances this would be true.

gothgrrl, have you seen the stones in person??

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Date: 7/11/2006 2:41:25 PM
Author: mrssalvo

Date: 7/11/2006 2:36:26 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006
I'm would hope a VS2 is eyeclean, but surely we'd all want to see both certs and the inclusion plots before deciding, right?


ETA: I mean when the numbers on both stones are good, you look farther than that to determine which one to buy.

yes you are right. I actually still have not seen the inclusion plot on my stone, nor the stone itself and am relying completely on the vendor's eyes. but in most circumstances this would be true.

gothgrrl, have you seen the stones in person??

Well, Mr. Pearlman is so highly regarded that I wouldn't worry. Plus I assume you could still send it back in the unlikely event you weren't totally in love with it for any reason, right? (You know that I am just clarity sensitive because I currently have an SI2 and am unhappy with that. So just know that when I post about clarity!

)

 

[mrssalvo]

hehe, NO worries DS, I know where you''re coming from. can''t wait till tomorrow for you..

 

[Gothgrrl]

Thanks for all the help. These are from WF. The first diamond is a ES and the second is an ACA. Both look eye-clean. They both look nice. I know the color is high, but I would like to have one diamond with a high color.

 

[Ellen]

Date: 7/11/2006 3:05:00 PM
Author: Gothgrrl
Thanks for all the help. These are from WF. The first diamond is a ES and the second is an ACA. Both look eye-clean. They both look nice. I know the color is high, but I would like to have one diamond with a high color.

Can''t blame you. I have a D Emerald cut, it''s very pretty.

Let us know what you decide!

 

[Gothgrrl]

Oooo...Ellen...would love to see pics of that emerald. My RHR is an emerald.

Anyhow, I am leaning more towards Diamond 1. It''s from their ES. Plus the ACA is much, much more. Hmmm....decisions, decisions.

 

[Ellen]

Date: 7/11/2006 5:48:08 PM
Author: Gothgrrl
Oooo...Ellen...would love to see pics of that emerald. My RHR is an emerald.


Anyhow, I am leaning more towards Diamond 1. It''s from their ES. Plus the ACA is much, much more. Hmmm....decisions, decisions.

Yes, the ES would be a great value. But just to be sure, have them look at both and give you their opinion, couldn''t hurt.

Once I get my new monitor, and figure out exactly what my pics really look like, I''ll post my new ring in SMTR, and maybe throw the Emerald in for ya.

 

[Small]

Date: 7/11/2006 2:38:13 PM
Author: Ellen
I always thought VS2 was eye clean, but I''ve read on here more than once that sometimes they''re not.

My choice based solely on numbers would be #2.

I would say almost always you are safe. There are just a few people here that are very clarity conscious/sensitive so even a VS2 makes them nervous

I can barely spot the visible inclusion I have on my stunning SI2 so I''m quite certain that I wouldn''t be able to spot ANY inclusions on a VS stone. But that''s me and I''m not clarity sensitive in the least. It''s all about what your mind can handle. Good luck!

 

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Goth,

Have you asked WF to pull both stones and give you a comparison? I''ve found this can be useful. Not quite as thorough as sending them both to an appraiser and then selecting one after that, but more economical.

D color!

Good luck,
^

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/11/2006 2:24:02 PM
Author: mrssalvo

Date: 7/11/2006 2:20:46 PM
Author: BlackIce
Even a certified stone can have an error of 1 to 2 grades on the clarity;

I would be very surprised to find AGS or GIA off 1-2 clarity grades

that would be very bad business for either of them..it''s known that EGL grades a little softer but they say EGL USA is getting better..

DITTO Mrssalvo!