Restaurants rounding your change to the nearest dollar

[justginger]

Rounding to the nearest dollar is a bit much, IMO. Everywhere in Australia rounds, as they've gotten rid of their one cent coins. So if something is $2.98, it's $3.00, and if it's $3.02, it's $3.00. Over time it truly does even out, unless you're a mad schemer (like the people who purposefully get $50.02 of fuel EVERY TIME they fill up).

My parents didn't like this concept when visiting. My father felt as if 'they' (being companies, I suppose) would adjust ALL of their prices to ensure the most rounding up of cost. Howevef, that would be impossible, due to the mathmatics of multiple purchases. $2.98 and $2.98 is $5.96. Instead of losing 2 pennies, twice, you gained one penny by rounding down to $5.95. Despite this example, they were unconvinced. I think Americans, in general, demand a high degree of fairness, especially with their hard earned money. I've gotten used to this system here, because it applies to everything I do and balances out. If it were a restaurant, and rounding to the DOLLAR, I would feel differently. I imagine you are not the only one with a bad taste in their mouth when leaving sans change, Kenny.

I don't miss pennies, though.

 

[ksinger]

Maybe so. But what makes a restaurant different from the grocery store? Seriously....why is it somehow different?

I'd be curious in the situation kenny is referencing, if this restuarant truly rounds up/down the charges on their records, or they just round when dealing with cash payments from customers. Most restaurants are using an electronic point-of-service system, so I'm guessing they are rounding it just when dealing with the payments.

The difference is that if they are just rounding when dealing with cash payments, they are doing it by using the assumed tip as a cushion to do this rounding. So although you might be pissed to not get your $0.43 back, unless you are eating someplace very cheap you should be leaving more than that for the tip, and you can factor the change you didn't get back into the total tip you leave. Because tipping is part of the standard of service in American restaurants, it's different than if the grocery or hardware store shortchanged you. I see how it's still annoying, but in my mind I don't equate it with stealing for this reason.

But it is still stealing. And I suspect it would be in the eyes of the ethicist and the legal system. Petty theft it's true, but theft nonetheless.

As for tipping, tipping is done for good or excellent service, not because the server is breathing and at work. And NOT when he unilaterally decides to short me. I'm a chronic over-tipper for what I consider good service, but if you ASSUME you may take one thin dime of mine, well, I hope it was worth it, because your tip will be nonexistent and I won't be back.

I'm honestly amazed this discussion is even happening. I mean throw away your money any way you like, but to think this is anything but stealing is just astonishing to me. Maybe it's just because I was taught to be SO exacting with money, especially other people's money. I could never take money not owed to me, regardless of the unethical practice of my employer. My hand would burst into flame and I'd go straight to Hell...

Really? Stealing? Legally? I find that a bit hard to believe. I'm no legal guru but I think you'd be hard pressed to find a prosecutor willing to charge a waiter or restaurant with theft for this practice.

Also, I may have missed this, but kenny-did you ask for your change back? Or did you just question why it wasn't given to you?

Yes. Stealing. Really. Legally. Maybe you WOULD have trouble finding a prosecutor who will prosecute for 47 cents, but a prosecutor's unwillingness doesn't define "legal", or God knows, ethical.

I'm not a legal guru either, but I think this definition (courtesy the evil Wikipedia) of theft, is pretty clear in spite of the legalese.

"The actus reus of theft is usually defined as an unauthorized taking, keeping or using of another's property which must be accompanied by a mens rea of dishonesty and/or the intent to permanently deprive the owner or the person with rightful possession of that property or its use."

A tempest in a teapot certainly, but just because a restaurant ASSUMES they are entitled to deny me my change don't make it so. Just like banks make a killing nickle and diming us to death with this little fee here and that little fee there, this restaurant could rack up some considerable change in the course of a year by doing that...and it's even better when they manage to convince the patron that this is "for their own good".

kenny didn't ask for his change, so the restaurant didn't refuse to give it to him. He inquired about the policy and stated his displeasure with it. So I don't believe it can be proven that the restaurant intended to permanently deprive the owner (kenny) of the money. We'll never know, but if kenny had actually said he wanted his change back, perhaps the restaurant would have complied.

The restaurant's practice really isn't unheard of, as people who have been servers previously have attested to, so I really don't believe it is considered a crime. If it was, I highly doubt multiple servers and restaurants would do the same thing.

No, Kenny politely reminded his server that "he forgot his change". I guess being polite is too subtle a way of pointing out that he expected his change. Maybe "Hey, where's the damn change you owe me??" is necessary before a average server would assume that the customer wants his change? He repeated his displeasure to more than one person even. Another clue that a reasonable person could use to come to the conclusion that this person wants his change. The fact that two people made excuses about why they wouldn't give him his change, rather than just giving it to him at that point, speaks volumes, IMO.

I've been a restaurant server too - I have a degree in hotel restaurant management in fact, and at that instant, that server should have cheerfully coughed up that change, rather than do what amounts to arguing with a customer, who wasn't trying to get some free meal after all, just wanted the change he was legally owed. Just because some people are casual with money doesn't mean everyone is, and to apply some sort of weird social pressure to be that way, is just bizarre to me, especially in the current economy. And IMO, casual attitudes towards other people's money is a big part of why we find ourselves in our current mess.

People have been making change for a long long time. It's not that hard - (although to judge by the consistently flustered cashiers who look like a deer in the headlights when confronted with a few coins, and just shove a wad of money into your hand at the grocery store I MAY be a bit out of touch), and not that time-consuming.

And I'd hate to be the one doing the books at that place.

 

[Imdanny]

Of course it is stealing. The definition has been given. Why not accept it instead of putting yourself and us through semantic contortions?

The money Is due him. Withholding it is stealing by definition. Their policy is to steal from some customers.

It's outrageous.

Oh, we just decided not to give you money we owe you.

But don't worry your pretty little head. It's our policy.

 

[ksinger]

Of course it is stealing. The definition has been given. Why not accept it instead of putting yourself and us through semantic contortions?

The money Is due him. Withholding it is stealing by definition. Their poly is to steal from some customers.

It's outrageous.

Oh, we just decided not to give you money we owe you.

But don't worry your pretty little head. It's our policy.

Hit the nail on the head.

The only thing that makes it acceptable is that fact that so many people put up with it. I bet there are more people uncomfortable with that policy than want to admit it, for fear of appearing petty, or like Kenny, who might have made more of a fuss on principle except he didn't want to upset his SO. A much better policy is to be exacting when handling money and to not act as if robbing Peter is OK just because you tell him you're paying Paul. When you do that you avoid so much unspoken resentment and ill-will. It's really a no-brainer.

The old adage about a satisfied customer tells (can't remember the number exactly) 3 people, while the dissatisfied tells 10 (or some suitably large number) holds true in food service almost more than any other area. You're likely to blab to the entire office the next day.

But then restaurants are traditionally some of the most poorly run businesses around, to judge by their failure rates. And that was true long before Gordon Ramsey started showing us how the sausage was made.

 

[Imdanny]

Hell's Kitchen.

SO and I used to eat at restaurants a lot because it seemed easier than shopping, cooking, and cleaning.

We don't anymore. It is too expensive. MIL, SO, and I went out to eat and it was well over $60. No appetizers, dessert, or alcohol. Just food. A lot of food, pretty good food, nice to not have to do anything, but still, that's a lot of money, $60- $70. And yes I know that's practically free compared to some restaurants. SO and I used to go to restaurants in New Orleans. It's a restaurant town. It's something he liked to do. So we did.

But on top of what it cost and the amount you've agreed to, to withhold the right change in the restaurant's favor? Not no. Hell no.

 

[iheartscience]

Of course it is stealing. The definition has been given. Why not accept it instead of putting yourself and us through semantic contortions?

The money Is due him. Withholding it is stealing by definition. Their policy is to steal from some customers.

It's outrageous.

Oh, we just decided not to give you money we owe you.

But don't worry your pretty little head. It's our policy.

I'm putting us all through semantic contortions because I don't think this is stealing, especially because kenny didn't ask for his change back. People vary and all that.

 

[jewelerman]

Maybe so. But what makes a restaurant different from the grocery store? Seriously....why is it somehow different?

I'd be curious in the situation kenny is referencing, if this restuarant truly rounds up/down the charges on their records, or they just round when dealing with cash payments from customers. Most restaurants are using an electronic point-of-service system, so I'm guessing they are rounding it just when dealing with the payments.

The difference is that if they are just rounding when dealing with cash payments, they are doing it by using the assumed tip as a cushion to do this rounding. So although you might be pissed to not get your $0.43 back, unless you are eating someplace very cheap you should be leaving more than that for the tip, and you can factor the change you didn't get back into the total tip you leave. Because tipping is part of the standard of service in American restaurants, it's different than if the grocery or hardware store shortchanged you. I see how it's still annoying, but in my mind I don't equate it with stealing for this reason.

But it is still stealing. And I suspect it would be in the eyes of the ethicist and the legal system. Petty theft it's true, but theft nonetheless.

As for tipping, tipping is done for good or excellent service, not because the server is breathing and at work. And NOT when he unilaterally decides to short me. I'm a chronic over-tipper for what I consider good service, but if you ASSUME you may take one thin dime of mine, well, I hope it was worth it, because your tip will be nonexistent and I won't be back.

I'm honestly amazed this discussion is even happening. I mean throw away your money any way you like, but to think this is anything but stealing is just astonishing to me. Maybe it's just because I was taught to be SO exacting with money, especially other people's money. I could never take money not owed to me, regardless of the unethical practice of my employer. My hand would burst into flame and I'd go straight to Hell...

Really? Stealing? Legally? I find that a bit hard to believe. I'm no legal guru but I think you'd be hard pressed to find a prosecutor willing to charge a waiter or restaurant with theft for this practice.

Also, I may have missed this, but kenny-did you ask for your change back? Or did you just question why it wasn't given to you?

Yes. Stealing. Really. Legally. Maybe you WOULD have trouble finding a prosecutor who will prosecute for 47 cents, but a prosecutor's unwillingness doesn't define "legal", or God knows, ethical.

I'm not a legal guru either, but I think this definition (courtesy the evil Wikipedia) of theft, is pretty clear in spite of the legalese.

"The actus reus of theft is usually defined as an unauthorized taking, keeping or using of another's property which must be accompanied by a mens rea of dishonesty and/or the intent to permanently deprive the owner or the person with rightful possession of that property or its use."

A tempest in a teapot certainly, but just because a restaurant ASSUMES they are entitled to deny me my change don't make it so. Just like banks make a killing nickle and diming us to death with this little fee here and that little fee there, this restaurant could rack up some considerable change in the course of a year by doing that...and it's even better when they manage to convince the patron that this is "for their own good".

kenny didn't ask for his change, so the restaurant didn't refuse to give it to him. He inquired about the policy and stated his displeasure with it. So I don't believe it can be proven that the restaurant intended to permanently deprive the owner (kenny) of the money. We'll never know, but if kenny had actually said he wanted his change back, perhaps the restaurant would have complied.

The restaurant's practice really isn't unheard of, as people who have been servers previously have attested to, so I really don't believe it is considered a crime. If it was, I highly doubt multiple servers and restaurants would do the same thing.

No, Kenny politely reminded his server that "he forgot his change". I guess being polite is too subtle a way of pointing out that he expected his change. Maybe "Hey, where's the damn change you owe me??" is necessary before a average server would assume that the customer wants his change? He repeated his displeasure to more than one person even. Another clue that a reasonable person could use to come to the conclusion that this person wants his change. The fact that two people made excuses about why they wouldn't give him his change, rather than just giving it to him at that point, speaks volumes, IMO.

I've been a restaurant server too - I have a degree in hotel restaurant management in fact, and at that instant, that server should have cheerfully coughed up that change, rather than do what amounts to arguing with a customer, who wasn't trying to get some free meal after all, just wanted the change he was legally owed. Just because some people are casual with money doesn't mean everyone is, and to apply some sort of weird social pressure to be that way, is just bizarre to me, especially in the current economy. And IMO, casual attitudes towards other people's money is a big part of why we find ourselves in our current mess.

People have been making change for a long long time. It's not that hard - (although to judge by the consistently flustered cashiers who look like a deer in the headlights when confronted with a few coins, and just shove a wad of money into your hand at the grocery store I MAY be a bit out of touch), and not that time-consuming.

And I'd hate to be the one doing the books at that place. [/quote
exactly! if this were happening in my parents restaurants and hotels they would not only out of business but also be investigated!When i asked a few of my friends their opinions they said they would feel awkward complaining over 43 cents,but that it was crazy that the restaurant would put a patron in a position of having to fight for their change after a meal!The manager and server standing firm over 43 cents does seem like stupidity when it risks loosing a paying repeat customer. i would expect this to be posted on the menu, receipt and somewhere on the way into the eating establishment.In our state you have to post any restrictions dealing with money transactions.I for one would not care about appearances and would make a scene to get my change back and to have the policy chanced for other patrons in the future.

 

[Laila619]

Just because some people are casual with money doesn't mean everyone is, and to apply some sort of weird social pressure to be that way, is just bizarre to me, especially in the current economy. And IMO, casual attitudes towards other people's money is a big part of why we find ourselves in our current mess.

 

[Springs1]

I've never seen this before and would be really mad if a resturant did this to me. In fact, I would write a complaint letter as they're basically stealing money from their customers. Also, where is the money going? If the receipt only shows, say $20.55 and they keep $21, are they paying taxes on the difference or hiding that money somewhere? They could hide it rather than report it! Is this a big resturant or family owned?

Did you EVER consider that the waiter MAKES TIPS HIMSELF and that he has the ABILITY to NOT SHORT YOU, even if he has to give you $9 in order to do it, HE COULD even if he wasn't allowed to carry coins on him?

I would have STIFFED him for STEALING. Also, he should have told you WHEN GREETED, you are not going to get coin change if he was going to be selfish like that. This is THEFT, plain and simple!!

Do you think no customers give coins as tips? I bet they do, so I bet he had coins even from other customers as well as coins in general. He was being SELFISH. Did you tip him?

HOW can you feel he can blame the "RESTAURANT", when *HE* makes TIPS, so HE HAS MONEY ON HIM EVEN IF HE HAS TO GIVE YOU THE NEXT DOLLAR AMOUNT $9 in your case. Stealing from the "CUSTOMER" is OK, but NOT FROM THE WAITER? WTH?

 

[iheartscience]

I've never seen this before and would be really mad if a resturant did this to me. In fact, I would write a complaint letter as they're basically stealing money from their customers. Also, where is the money going? If the receipt only shows, say $20.55 and they keep $21, are they paying taxes on the difference or hiding that money somewhere? They could hide it rather than report it! Is this a big resturant or family owned?

Did you EVER consider that the waiter MAKES TIPS HIMSELF and that he has the ABILITY to NOT SHORT YOU, even if he has to give you $9 in order to do it, HE COULD even if he wasn't allowed to carry coins on him?

I would have STIFFED him for STEALING. Also, he should have told you WHEN GREETED, you are not going to get coin change if he was going to be selfish like that. This is THEFT, plain and simple!!

Do you think no customers give coins as tips? I bet they do, so I bet he had coins even from other customers as well as coins in general. He was being SELFISH. Did you tip him?

HOW can you feel he can blame the "RESTAURANT", when *HE* makes TIPS, so HE HAS MONEY ON HIM EVEN IF HE HAS TO GIVE YOU THE NEXT DOLLAR AMOUNT $9 in your case. Stealing from the "CUSTOMER" is OK, but NOT FROM THE WAITER? WTH?

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT! LOUD NOISES!

 

[Springs1]

kenny didn't ask for his change, so the restaurant didn't refuse to give it to him. He inquired about the policy and stated his displeasure with it. So I don't believe it can be proven that the restaurant intended to permanently deprive the owner (kenny) of the money. We'll never know, but if kenny had actually said he wanted his change back, perhaps the restaurant would have complied.

The restaurant's practice really isn't unheard of, as people who have been servers previously have attested to, so I really don't believe it is considered a crime. If it was, I highly doubt multiple servers and restaurants would do the same thing.

He doesn't NEED to ask for his change back. Just like when you go ANYWHERE ELSE where people don't make tips, you don't have to ASK for your change back. It's YOUR CHANGE, NOT THE SERVER'S MONEY AT THAT POINT AND TIME. It may not even be the server's money. That depends on what the *CUSTOMER* decides to tip, NOT the server.

It IS a CRIME, because it's NOT **YOUR** MONEY AS A SERVER. IT'S THE ***CUSTOMER'S** MONEY.

If you are my server and you owe me $14.49 and you give me $14, you HAVE to come up with it somehow and you can with YOUR OWN PERSONAL MONEY, not the RESTAURANT'S MONEY. Especially, do you want a tip? I don't give tips for people that INTENTIONALLY steal your money.

Once, my husband and I paid with (2) $20 gift certificates and our bill was $34.69. The waiter only gave us back a $5 bill back, no coins. I got the coins back and STIFFED HIS ASS for STEALING!! You don't get to take our money and TIP YOURSELF.

Even if the restaurant has that policy, don't you think the register is going to have an OVERAGE from the sales when they tally up the register sales? That means that money will go to the SERVER, NOT the company and if the company keeps it, they are in the wrong as well.

 

[stephbolt]

I've never seen this before and would be really mad if a resturant did this to me. In fact, I would write a complaint letter as they're basically stealing money from their customers. Also, where is the money going? If the receipt only shows, say $20.55 and they keep $21, are they paying taxes on the difference or hiding that money somewhere? They could hide it rather than report it! Is this a big resturant or family owned?

Did you EVER consider that the waiter MAKES TIPS HIMSELF and that he has the ABILITY to NOT SHORT YOU, even if he has to give you $9 in order to do it, HE COULD even if he wasn't allowed to carry coins on him?

I would have STIFFED him for STEALING. Also, he should have told you WHEN GREETED, you are not going to get coin change if he was going to be selfish like that. This is THEFT, plain and simple!!

Do you think no customers give coins as tips? I bet they do, so I bet he had coins even from other customers as well as coins in general. He was being SELFISH. Did you tip him?

HOW can you feel he can blame the "RESTAURANT", when *HE* makes TIPS, so HE HAS MONEY ON HIM EVEN IF HE HAS TO GIVE YOU THE NEXT DOLLAR AMOUNT $9 in your case. Stealing from the "CUSTOMER" is OK, but NOT FROM THE WAITER? WTH?

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT! LOUD NOISES!

I love that movie.

 

[mogster]

This has happened to me before at a fancy restaurant and I thought it was a one-off anomaly. I usually try to tip 18% for good service, but was put off by that practice and tipped 15% instead. If they had rounded my change up, I would have felt that they were being generous, and I would have felt generous in turn and tipped them 20% instead.

 

[SapphireLover]

Where I live there is a scheme (that you can opt out of) where they round up the bill to the nearest £. All the money goes to provide food and shelter to the homeless in our city. I think its a neat idea and if you don't like it, you can say you don't want to do it. Its only a handful of change, but it keeps our shelters going.

 

[Springs1]

This has happened to me before at a fancy restaurant and I thought it was a one-off anomaly. I usually try to tip 18% for good service, but was put off by that practice and tipped 15% instead. If they had rounded my change up, I would have felt that they were being generous, and I would have felt generous in turn and tipped them 20% instead.

Why did you tip at ALL since they stole, huh? I think if they stole from you, you should steal their tip back. Why did you tip 15%?

 

[LJL]

company policy = your server is stealing.

logic. its beautiful.

 

[iheartscience]

company policy = your server is stealing.

logic. its beautiful.

AND THAT THIEVING SERVER'S A$$ SHOULD GET STIFFED!!!!

 

[aljdewey]

If a restaurant chooses to round for its own convenience, it should do so on its own dime.

The little cafe in my office building rounds, but it is ALWAYS in the customer's favor. If it's $1.92 and you pay $2, he gives back a dime.

 

[zoebartlett]

If a restaurant chooses to round for its own convenience, it should do so on its own dime.

The little cafe in my office building rounds, but it is ALWAYS in the customer's favor. If it's $1.92 and you pay $2, he gives back a dime.

Agreed. There's a place near us that does the same thing.

Off topic, but I'm glad to see you back, Alj!

 

[Springs1]

company policy = your server is stealing.

logic. its beautiful.

YES, because they have **THEIR OWN PERSONAL MONEY NOT TO HAVE TO SHORT A CUSTOMER**!! WHY is it OK to short the "CUSTOMER", but the SERVER OR THE RESTAURANT, OH IT'S OK NOT TO SHORT THEM, RIGHT? Of course if someone underpays their bill, you'd be running after me if you served me, so STFU, because you don't know WTF you are talking about. SERVERS HAVE THEIR *OWN PERSONAL MONEY* that they can give as the change. They don't need to give the RESTAURANT'S MONEY. Do you not have common sense?

 

[kenny]

Springs1, many people consider it rude to use capital letters too much.
They see it as screaming at them.

 

[iheartscience]

company policy = your server is stealing.

logic. its beautiful.

YES, because they have **THEIR OWN PERSONAL MONEY NOT TO HAVE TO SHORT A CUSTOMER**!! WHY is it OK to short the "CUSTOMER", but the SERVER OR THE RESTAURANT, OH IT'S OK NOT TO SHORT THEM, RIGHT? Of course if someone underpays their bill, you'd be running after me if you served me, so STFU, because you don't know WTF you are talking about. SERVERS HAVE THEIR *OWN PERSONAL MONEY* that they can give as the change. They don't need to give the RESTAURANT'S MONEY. Do you not have common sense?

Welcome to Pricescope! You are a TRUE DELIGHT!

*I LOOK FORWARD TO READING YOUR POSTS*!!

 

[TristanC]

I don't think it is ok to round down change, it is only ok to round up change should they feel that way. Simply because you can be generous to anyone you wish, but you can't take from someone without their consent. Like I can't take$10 from a random lady at the convenience store just because I gave $20 to a children's cancer society. Its a stupid analogy but in theory it isn't that far off.

It is also stupid because as was stated earlier, cash is better than credit for them. Typically businesses lose a % on credit card payments as they are charged transaction fees. This would equate to a few % which is significant over the course of a month's business.

My other pet peeve is when restaurants locally give you your change in Coins when you pay in cash. Like a meal costs $$47.20, instead of a $2 note (we have those) and $0.80 in coins, they give you a whole bunch of coins for the remaining $2.80. The hope is of course that you leave it all there for the tip box (TIpping isn't customary here as an additional flat 10% is levied at 99% of all eateries for the service provided, even if said service drops sauce down your cleavage). That practice annoys me as well. Never leave anything behind any time they do that.

BUT at the end of the day, if the food is great, service is great and from what you mentioned, prices are reasonable... it would take more than this stupid policy to make me stay away. But yes, it is a stupid policy.

 

[Cehrabehra]

If they want to round it to MY benefit - fine by me. If they want to round it to the nearest quarter to MY benefit - fine by me. Yes, they make the same in the long run but they're assuming that you go there all the time. If you go there once, it may NOT be equal in the end and that's bullshite.

 

[Cehrabehra]

You know... I question the legality of it.

 

[Tacori E-ring]

I'd just round down the tip b/c I am pretty sure the difference goes to the server NOT the restaurant.

 

[MichelleCarmen]

I've never seen this before and would be really mad if a resturant did this to me. In fact, I would write a complaint letter as they're basically stealing money from their customers. Also, where is the money going? If the receipt only shows, say $20.55 and they keep $21, are they paying taxes on the difference or hiding that money somewhere? They could hide it rather than report it! Is this a big resturant or family owned?

Did you EVER consider that the waiter MAKES TIPS HIMSELF and that he has the ABILITY to NOT SHORT YOU, even if he has to give you $9 in order to do it, HE COULD even if he wasn't allowed to carry coins on him?

I would have STIFFED him for STEALING. Also, he should have told you WHEN GREETED, you are not going to get coin change if he was going to be selfish like that. This is THEFT, plain and simple!!

Do you think no customers give coins as tips? I bet they do, so I bet he had coins even from other customers as well as coins in general. He was being SELFISH. Did you tip him?

HOW can you feel he can blame the "RESTAURANT", when *HE* makes TIPS, so HE HAS MONEY ON HIM EVEN IF HE HAS TO GIVE YOU THE NEXT DOLLAR AMOUNT $9 in your case. Stealing from the "CUSTOMER" is OK, but NOT FROM THE WAITER? WTH?

Huh? Are you directing this at me? It is Sunday and I'm still in my PJs. Too lazy to try and figure out WHAT you are YELLING and talking about. lol

 

[MichelleCarmen]

If a restaurant chooses to round for its own convenience, it should do so on its own dime.

The little cafe in my office building rounds, but it is ALWAYS in the customer's favor. If it's $1.92 and you pay $2, he gives back a dime.

This is a bookkeepers worst nightmare. Spending two hours trying to balance out all the .01 transaction differences.

 

[MichelleCarmen]

company policy = your server is stealing.

logic. its beautiful.

YES, because they have **THEIR OWN PERSONAL MONEY NOT TO HAVE TO SHORT A CUSTOMER**!! WHY is it OK to short the "CUSTOMER", but the SERVER OR THE RESTAURANT, OH IT'S OK NOT TO SHORT THEM, RIGHT? Of course if someone underpays their bill, you'd be running after me if you served me, so STFU, because you don't know WTF you are talking about. SERVERS HAVE THEIR *OWN PERSONAL MONEY* that they can give as the change. They don't need to give the RESTAURANT'S MONEY. Do you not have common sense?

Welcome to Pricescope! You are a TRUE DELIGHT!

*I LOOK FORWARD TO READING YOUR POSTS*!!

hahaha somehow I doubt this person is new! Joined just to rant about this thread?

 

[Cehrabehra]

I'd just round down the tip b/c I am pretty sure the difference goes to the server NOT the restaurant.

THIS - and I would let them know. If the wait staff is under constant pressure from lower tips, the restaurant may rethink their policy.