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aphisiglovessae

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Well, I got screwed.... Here''s a copy of a letter I sent to all the head honchos and the women involved about what happened.... Can we say "wrongful termination"??

Some last names and contact information has been removed:

Jennifer ****
***** ***** **** *** **
Pensacola, FL 32514

April 27, 2006

Mrs. Beth *****
CC: Mrs. Sandra and Mrs. Joyce in Admin; Rep. Dave Murzin; Mrs. Magda *******; Mr. Tom Ring; The Allen Group; Deputy Commissioner Ken Tucker

Florida Department of Law Enforcement
**** * ****** ******
Pensacola, Florida 32501

Dear Sirs and Madams:

This letter is in reference to an incident that occurred on April 26, 2006, resulting in my termination as an OPS Evidence Technician. I would first like to apologize to those who feel that I had offended, disrespected or mistreated in any way. This was not my intention and I feel as though I was misinterpreted.

I would like the opportunity to express my thoughts and intentions, as well as my recollection of the events that transpired on April 26, 2006. I apologize that the details may not be exact, but they are to the best of my recollection and the points of the details should be evident.

On Wednesday, April 26, 2006, I reported for duty at 8 am. I had a conversation with Sheila ******* and Carol ****** (my immediate co-workers) about the recent duty I was assigned as an escort for some maintenance personnel (the previous day, the maintenance personnel had arrived unexpectedly and I was pulled from what I perceived to be an important meeting with Mr. Tom Ring, but I went willingly without attitude or incident). I had told them that I knew it was my duty to accept this task (a low person on the totem-pole deal) and that my only disappointment was with the fact that I had a lot of work to do and I would not have the opportunity to accomplish my main tasks for a period of days, possibly up to a week. I decided that while I would wait for the maintenance personnel, I would try to accomplish some tasks and enter evidence into the EMS system that we had received the prior day. Sheila and Carol had gone upstairs to prepare for the inspection that was scheduled for that day. I was almost finished with a submission when I received a phone call from the acting receptionist, Mrs. Joyce (I apologize that I haven''t yet learned her last name) informing me that the maintenance personnel had arrived. I said "Ok, but I just want to let you know that Im the only one in the room", meaning I had to put away all the evidence, paperwork, and other material that should be secure, and lock the vault and main window (In the two weeks I was working for FDLE Evidence, I was under the impression that the security of the evidence and its associated information was to be at the top of my priority list and was of the utmost importance). She said that only one maintenance person had arrived and was waiting for his partner, and proceeded to ask if she could call me again when the other person arrived. I replied with "Sure, that''d be fine", and the conversation ended. I thought that she was giving me a few minutes to take care of what I needed to, in order to leave the evidence room. I immediately finished my submission, put the evidence in their respective bins and put them in the vault. I also gathered my paperwork and put them in my desk where they would be safe, and I proceeded towards the vault to lock it. As I was going to lock the vault, Mrs. Sandra (I apologize again that I haven''t learned her last name) walked into the room, handed me the all-access card, and said I needed to close up and escort these men for the day. I replied with an "ok", and "I know", as I was continuing to secure the area. As I approached the vault I stopped and said "Oh, I dont have a day gate key", because I thought that because you needed a key to open the day gate, you also needed a key to lock it. Sandra then said she would retrieve a key for me. As she walked on the elevator, I thought I would at least close the gate and try, in which I learned that the gate locked automatically. Carol then called me to ask what I needed the key for and I told her that I didnt realize the day gate locked automatically (I had never closed it before) and I figured it out, and everything was taken care of. She then told me to make sure the vault was locked and I said ok. I closed the gate and walked out and passed Mr. Ring, who was getting on the elevator. I said "Oh, is the window locked?" I checked it and said "Yep, its locked," smiled at Mr. Ring, and proceeded to the Maintenance room to greet the gentlemen who were testing the air conditioning vents. They had not finished setting up their equipment when I arrived. I walked in and said "Hi guys! Well, looks like you got me again today." The rest of the day was full of pleasant conversations, laughing and joking, not just with the gentlemen, but also with other FDLE members. At one point during the day, we had past Chief Beth ****** in the hallway. I noticed that she looked like she was having a bad day or was in a bad mood (I thought it was because of the inspection) and tried to say hi to her. I said "Hi Beth, how are you doing today?" I don''t remember much of a response, but I thought she was just busy. I also encountered Mrs. Joyce and Mrs. Sandra sometime during the day, with no indication that anything was wrong. When the air conditioning gentlemen left, Magda ******* proceeded to take me to her office to talk with me. I said "Uh-oh, am I in trouble?" and she said that I was. That''s when I started to get confused. In her office, she proceeded to tell me what I had been accused of. I was dumbfounded and shocked. I proceeded to tell her what I recalled and I was subsequently terminated.

In my opinion, I gave no indication of a foul mood or attitude to any FDLE member, especially Mrs. Joyce and Mrs. Sandra. I was informed that they had told Chief Beth ****** that I informed them that I couldn''t escort the gentlemen around and that I did it with attitude. However, those words were never said. I wanted to inform Mrs. Joyce that I was alone because I thought she knew I had responsibilities to attend to before I was allowed to leave the department. Also, I was told that Chief Beth ****** interpreted my greeting to her in the hallway as additional attitude, which was entirely not my intention. I was just trying to be pleasant and say hello, like I do with everyone I meet in the building.

I feel that the entire situation, whether my recollection or the other accusations are true or not, was handled unfairly and poorly. I explicitly told my interviewers in both interviews that my strongest expectation from my superiors was that I be informed when I do something wrong or when I offend someone for any reason. I have never had any incidents with co-workers or superiors in my previous positions with various employers, and I''m sure they would be shocked to hear that I was accused of poor attitude. I believe that communication between co-workers, especially between employees and supervisors, is the basis for any successful work environment. I was never confronted or informed of any problem prior to termination, and I feel that the termination was wrongful and hasty. I could very much understand being taken aside and scolded for a supposed attitude problem, if it were true, and if I was given an opportunity to explain myself. However, no one asked for me to explain myself and took hearsay as fact. I believe this to be an unacceptable and insufficient explanation for my termination. I would''ve been happy to explain what I said, and why I said it, with a full apology to those affected and a guarantee it would never happen again. I was not given that chance, and I feel that everyone deserves such a chance. I know that I was just an OPS and hadnt been there but 2.5 weeks, but I don''t believe that it should give me less credibility than other members. I feel that the entire situation was a misinterpretation of me. Like I said before, I had no ill intentions or feelings towards the situation. Even if I did, the persons that would experience it would more likely be the persons inconveniencing me (the air conditioning gentlemen) rather than my fellow members, which did not happen either. I also attempted to contact Chief ****** and Mr. Ring concerning the situation and my termination, with no results other than the request to put it all in writing.

I am shocked and dumbfounded at the situation and its results. I just can''t believe that an agency of this caliber, with its high reputation in the community, would treat its employees as I feel I have been treated. The thing that disappoints me the most is the fact that I knew I would be a very valuable asset to FDLE. I am very eager and hardworking, which I tried to show in the short time I have been with FDLE. I have always tried my hardest to treat fellow members with the utmost respect. I gave two hundred percent in everything I did, and I constantly asked to be shown new things. I also sacrificed my Spring Semester classes at the University of West Florida (which will possibly make me financial liable to the government) in which I was taking forensic courses. I was striving to obtain the possible promotion that was mentioned to me by Chief Beth ****** (just two days prior to my termination). I was very excited about this job because it was something I had wanted to do since I was a teenager. It was my dream job. I loved my work, I loved the people I encountered everyday, and I thought that this was the best job in the world from the day I started until the minute I was terminated. Now I feel as though I have been lied to and that I have been discriminated against in some way.

I hope that now you understand my feelings and interpretations with this situation more than previously. I apologize once again for anything I may have done wrong and I thank you for taking the time to read this letter. My main objective was for everyone involved to hear my side of the story, as I feel I was not given sufficient opportunity to do this.

Sincerely,

Jennifer * ****

Now, does this sound like something I would do at a new job with the possibility of promotion right around the corner???? I''m sure I have no recourse, but it''s not about getting my job back anymore.. It''s about getting my integrity back. So, does anyone know of any full-time job openings????

So this is why I''ve been quiet lately. I fell into a depression over this and I recently got a little sparkle of light... According to a chemist I used to work with, FDLE also treated her badly. She supposedly had a job in the chemistry dept in the bag, because her dad hooked her up (he works for the sheriff''s dept) and she has a doctorate in analytical chemistry or something. They scheduled an appointment with the chief to get a tour of the lab and get a run-down on her duties.. The chief never showed up and never returned her numerous calls. She thinks its was because someone felt threatened because she''s one of few that has a doctorate. Her dad was so angry and he happens to be good friends with one of the head-honchos in the FDLE headquarters in Tallahassee. She said she would definitely tell her dad my story and send him a copy of my letter so he can let the people in Tallahassee know what''s going on... So now I''m back at square-one. I have an interview for a chemistry analyst position at a national or world-wide environmental laboratory on Monday..

What do you think about this situation??
 

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Oh Aphi! I'm so sorry that this happened!!
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I have not read through your whole letter, it is long and I'm headed to bed, but I will read it tomorrow. I'm just so sad that this happened. You wanted that job for so long! I'm sure you did not do anything intentionally, and if people are that quick to misjudge a person, perhaps you're better off not working with them. I have been wondering why you hadn't posted in a while and missed seeing you around here. I'm sorry that this is the reason, but please don't be discouraged. A new and better job will come along soon!! Good luck **Hugs**
 

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Wow I am so sorry to hear about this! From what you''ve stated here, I can''t believe that they wouldn''t have given you a warning and a chance to correct any inappropriate behavior before terminating you!!!
 

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aphisiglovessae


Welcome to office politics and policies 101.

I too have been fired in the past for no good reason.


My best advice is to just put it behind you and proceed to the next position. When asked why you were terminated: just use "I guess I didn't fit in - they did not explain" and leave it at that.

Best of luck; and don't worry you'll land on your feet somewhere.

I take it you have a chemistry background: Where are you located?

I now work in the nuclear power field (these last 5+ years); and one of the industry problems is that most of the workers will be retireing in the next 10 years. They are hiring every younger person they can get. Pay is above average (and for technical people it may be substaintiallyl above area average), working conditions tend to be great (but sometimes hours are long). And, as a bonus: You would not be fired in that fashion (not saying people arn't fired - but no one has any questions at the end of the process) - you would have every opportunity to talk to people (independent and confidential) that have the authority to investigate and take actions (Federal law requires such a program).

There's a security clearance - but if you were working with evidence you should not have any difficulties.

Here is a map of the approximate locations of the plants.

www.nei.org/index.asp?catnum=2&catid=342

Anyone interested - let me know which state and I'll try and post more information on the names and operating companies for the plants.

Most of these plants are scheduled to operate for another 30 years or so (license renewal extensions for 20 years past intial 40 year license are common).

New plants are in the pipeline:

Perry
 

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aphi,

I read your whole letter and have to say I am very angry and dumb-founded. How backstabbing of them. I do not understand how a supposed attitude problem is ever grounds for dismissal without prior verbal or written warnings. That''s just stupid, crazy.

You carried yourself very well in your letter, I feel maybe you were even a little too nice. I really would have wanted to tell them off, but it''s for the best. I know you wouldn''t want to be back there after they treated you like that anyway.

{{{{{{ HUGS }}}}}}

I know how hard it feels when you are getting treated badly at work. I wish you the best in your upcoming interviews. After a situation like this, it takes real guts to get out there and try again so soon, so you should be commended. Hang in there and it will get better ...
 

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Thanks everyone for your kind words. I''m trying to look at this whole thing as their loss, and get a bigger and better job as soon as possible.

Perry, I have a background in Biology and Chemistry, but my degree and certificate are both in the biological field. The job I was supposed to get promoted to at FDLE was in the Serology Department. I''m located in Pensacola, Florida. My fiance is also looking for a new GIS position as his contract will be up in about 2 years. The job I''m interviewing for on Monday is for a GC/MS Analyst Level I. I also have resumes out for various hospital positions and for a biomedical technician position. I''m just trying to budget myself and hope that something comes along soon.
 

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i worked in an analytical chemistry /quality control lab in Nalco/Exxon sugarland where if you didn't get on the right side of the bosses pet, you were run off. they told me that my behavior was unaaceptable and that i wasn't a team player. huh?

I packed up my belongings, very confused, having been let go one day before I finished my training, the 89th day. I had learned the day shift, the eve shift and the night shift duties.

edited to add: they were preparing my papers to go on "permanent full time" after 90 days. which made it really confusing.

I later learned that that plant lab had run off many people, and my experience was common. I also later leaned that the bosses pet was relieved of her duty rather brutally. good.

edited to add: was this a gummint job? civil service? sounds like you pissed ole beth off. (if no one has told you: watch out for women in the workplace, especially if they have a civil service position, they can't get fired, all they can do is make life miserable for other people. they cause a lot more trouble than men.) suck up to secretaries who can also make your life hell.
 

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aphisiglovessae:

I don't think your specific degree is an issue, the chemistry labs in nuclear power plants are a lot different than most chemical labs. Also, nuclear plants have to track bioligical effects as well (should there ever be any) and as a result we typically provide the local communities and governments with the best information on background levels of all kinds of things that they cannot afford to normally test. I was just reading where one of the nuke plants in California is a huge hit with the local surfers - becasue the nuke plant installed a wave bouy several years ago in the area (the only one on the west cost: at all) and provides wave forcast to the local media.

If you are willing to relocate a bit: The nearest plant is probably Farley (Dothan AL). Operated by Southern Nuclear Operating Co. (a good place to work - even in the nuke industry: I have friends who work there).

They may also have corporate office positions.

If you have a few days you just might want to contact them, and some of the other companies in the region just to visit and talk about the possibilities of future employment in the nuclear field - you might be pleasantly surprised. You'll never know unless you look.

I note that there are a lot of couples who work at the plants (in different departments). Due to my allergies I would not relocate down south - but I know people who go job hunting and a position for their spouse (an existing nuclear plant worker) is part of the deal (and nuclear plants routinely accept a dual transfer).

Here is the list of all the current power plants, where they are located, and who operates them (assuming you want to stay down south - there are a lot of options).

www.nrc.gov/reactors/operating/list-power-reactor-units.html


The NRC is also hiring big time (and considered one of the best places to work in the federal goverment).

They have central office positions; and then field rep positions. The field reps are required to rotate positions periodically (typcially every 3 to 5 years). The reason for that is that they do not want the firld reps to become too cosy with the plant staff. The field reps are typically assigned at a plant for routine oversight. Some of them work from a regional office.

www.nrc.gov/who-we-are/employment.html

Here is the current open job list for the company I work:

www.nmcco.com/join_us/careers/career_opps_location.htm


Note that most companies are more than willing to talk to a qualified person interested in working in nuclear plants - even if they do not have an "active" posting for a position. If the right person walks in the door - they'll create a position for them.

One other item: All of these postins will state: "Nuclear experience preferred." While that is true - the fact is that there is a shortage of workers due to retirement - and they take new people all the time. All it really means is that if I were to apply for the same position - I'd get preference over someone without any nuclear plant experience.

I wish you well with whatever you chose to do. Just thought I'd mention that there is a whole nother world of job possibilieites out there that most people never consider.

As far as wages and benifits go: Pretty good as well. In my region engineers tend to get paid about a 50% wage premium; and we have better health insurance than almost anyone else arround here. I can't speak for technitions - but I don't know any who have left looking for more money... I suspect that they are also compensated above the area average for their position. Maintenance workers are well paid as well. It only seems that the clerical staff is where the wages are normal to the area (and some clerical then transfer to a plant job - at least those that don't mind getting their hands dirty...)

Perry
 

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Oh Jenn! I am soo sorry.
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Date: 5/7/2006 2:40:01 PM
Author: ladykemma
i worked in an analytical chemistry /quality control lab in Nalco/Exxon sugarland where if you didn't get on the right side of the bosses pet, you were run off. they told me that my behavior was unaaceptable and that i wasn't a team player. huh?


I packed up my belongings, very confused, having been let go one day before I finished my training, the 89th day. I had learned the day shift, the eve shift and the night shift duties.


I later learned that that plant lab had run off many people, and my experience was common. I also later leaned that the bosses pet was relieved of her duty rather brutally. good.


edited to add: was this a gummint job? civil service? sounds like you pissed ole beth off. (if no one has told you: watch out for women in the workplace, especially if they have a civil service position, they can't get fired, all they can do is make life miserable for other people. they cause a lot more trouble than men.) suck up to secretaries who can also make your life hell.

This is why I'm so confused. I didn't kiss ass so much that my face was brown, but I was polite and obedient the entire time. I said hi to everyone I saw everyday and I always put my supervisor and chief's "special projects" high on my priority list when they asked me to do them. I hope that it bites her in the butt, like that bosses pet, eventually.

And thanks a bunch Perry! WOW! I'll definitely check this stuff out!
 

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aphisiglovessae

This is why I''m so confused. I didn''t kiss ass so much that my face was brown, but I was polite and obedient the entire time. I said hi to everyone I saw everyday and I always put my supervisor and chief''s "special projects" high on my priority list when they asked me to do them. I hope that it bites her in the butt, like that bosses pet, eventually.


Keep in mind the other possibility: Maybe you were to good at what you did - that your performance threatened the other people. People who only put "just enough" into their job often do everything they can to torpedo someone who comes in and puts more effort - or is just better at it - than they do.

I have personally been pulled over by "someone" and told that I needed to back off as I was making them look bad (several times at several places).

Unfortunately for them; I don''t care... Has it cost me at times - yes; but the rewards (financial and personal) are so much better when you succeed at it...


I know how much it hurts to be fired; I have also been outright fired from one job (and downsized, layed off, etc a few other times). Here are a few quotes to help you adjust:

"A job is nothing more than a temporary oportunity until something better comes along."

In your case - go find the "something better"

From a sticker I have: "This job is a test. It is only a test. Had it been an actual job, you would have received bonuses, raises and promotions."

I wish you the best.

Perry
 

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whenever you are confused in a situation like this -- you can bet it didn't have anything to do with you. there was a reason or excuse or no budget. BUT they will still try to make you feel crazy or incompetent. usually when i have done something wrong at work I know immediately because my conscience tells me so. i know you did nothing wrong.

there was something else going on. bet ole bess was pms-ing or something. or you spoke with her "on the side" boyfriend.....or someone sneezed on her lunch...

edited to add: or they wanted to hire the boss's daughter....
 

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This is a perfect example of why so many people are working for themselves or with sub contractor agreements.

Then consider how many people are laid off, or forced into a demotion just before they become vested. Seems that is a current practice with the big companies, because of time study recent graduates that just sit and calculate how much the company will save by finding an excuse to end things.

How many companies are eliminating pensions and other benefits for their employees, or their life savings invested in company stock like Enron.

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Date: 5/7/2006 5:11:27 PM
Author: RockDoc
This is a perfect example of why so many people are working for themselves or with sub contractor agreements.

Then consider how many people are laid off, or forced into a demotion just before they become vested. Seems that is a current practice with the big companies, because of time study recent graduates that just sit and calculate how much the company will save by finding an excuse to end things.

How many companies are eliminating pensions and other benefits for their employees, or their life savings invested in company stock like Enron.

Rockdoc
yeah when I worked for UT health science center in houston, managers were encouraged to find a reason to get rid of people before their 5 year mark - when they would have been vested.
 

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best move i ever made was getting out of this sh#t and becoming a chemistry teacher. I am fortunate to be at a good school with minimal politics. i have one bad day a year now, maybe two. usually student related. i have been teacher of the month and hope to get teacher of the year.

if you should ever decide to teach (hint hint) science teachers are being forgiven their student loans and given nice moving packages. make sure you get it in writing though.
 

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Jen, I am so sorry about what happened, especially considering how much time you spent interviewing and waiting for the position. There''s definitely some office politics involved; I, too, don''t believe that you would be terminated for the reason they stated without a warning. It''s such a shame, but it''s their loss. Bigger and better things will come your way. Good luck with your new interview.

It''s such a coincidence, but both of us are in the science fields (you - biology & me - chemistry) and our DH & FI are in GIS. How funny.
 

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Thanks so much for all your encouragement. It''s actually good to know that it hasn''t just happened to me. It''s just really wrong and I hope that all those who do this to people will get it in the end. Karma...

Qtiekiki, that is a weird coincidence! If your DH comes across any jobs in GIS in the Pensacola area, please let me know. My FI says that his lack of CAD experience is what''s holding him back right now. Hopefully soon we''ll be able to afford the classes he needs to get that experience. Until I get a job though, it''s going to be tough.

Well folks, I just got back from my interview with Sevrn Trent Laboratories this morning. It was a really laid back interview with some pleasant conversation. She says she has a few others to interview, but I will hopefully find out Thursday whether I''ve been chosen. Keep those fingers crossed!
 

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I definately think there is more to this story - most likely something political. Is this a govt job? I think someone said civil service. I worked for two different counties and I was always very uncomfortable with the political nature of the offices. Gossip was rampant.

Anyway, I wish you luck in finding a new position. Hopefully, it will be even better than the last one.
 

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I think there''s more to this story both ways....I''m sorry to hear that you were fired, but I think the best thing to do is to put it behind you. I believe, sincerely, that pursuing action etc., in these kinds of situations will only close future doors to you. I think you''ve done all you can with the letter, so try and see it as a learning experience.
 

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oh, I''m so sorry to hear that this happened! I hate hearing stories about office politics and political firings - they HURT, even when you know you did nothing wrong!

I''ve found in the science world that there seems to be an unusual concentration of people with science backgrounds made into managers, but without skills to supervise people. I had one boss, shortly before she had a nervous breakdown, tell the vice-president of the company that I hadn''t shown up to work (I was doing my senior undergraduate thesis there) in a few weeks. Strange since this is the same woman who suggested that I keep a lab notebook keeping track of the time that I came in, the times that I started and finished experiements, etc. I was totally crushed when I got word that I was fired, but fortunately just angry enough to show my notebook to the VP. They couldn''t really admit that they had a legitimate reason for firing me, so kept me on until the project was completed. Tense working environment is an understatement...

Anyway... *hugs* and keep your chin up - you''ll come out of this even better off.
 

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Jennifer, sorry this happened to you. To let you know this kind of thing happens to good people. I wouldn''t have believed it until it happened to me, and recently to my sister in law. In my case my relationship with my boss deteriorated after I became pregnant, and was fired after I returned from maternity leave. In my sister in law''s case, it was political/personal, the composition of the board for the non profit she directed changed, and included a couple close friends of a woman my sister in law had previously fired. The new board members basically believed everything this women had said about my sister in law and within 2 months of the new board forming, she was terminated.

I was traumatized by the whole thing and didn''t even know what to say to prospective employers. Though of course tell your close friends what really happened but to prospective employers I''d say keep it simple, like there was a personality conflict, and move on. If you do good work, it won''t be held against you. In both of our cases we got jobs that paid better than the previous ones, with wonderful supervisors so sometimes it can be a blessing in disguise.
 

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Date: 5/9/2006 4:17:09 PM
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Though of course tell your close friends what really happened but to prospective employers I''d say keep it simple, like there was a personality conflict, and move on.
My FI & I were talking about that last night. He got his current job partially BECAUSE the other top candidate kept bad-mouthing her previous employer. NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENED - the interviewer seceretly believes that a year from now you''ll be saying those things about HER company too! Just a "heads up"!
 

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Date: 5/9/2006 3:20:35 PM
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I definately think there is more to this story - most likely something political. Is this a govt job? I think someone said civil service.

Yes, it was a state government job.

ETA: FDLE is the Florida Department of Law Enforcement
 

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the problem with something like this is that it's total hearsay...unless you have things in writing to back you up, or someone who says 'yes you got screwed and im sorry and i'm willing to TESTIFY to assist you'...then something like 'oh she had a bad attitude' or whatever they decided to say can be corroborated by a few people there, they can even make up documents to say you'd been warned or were on probation or weren't working out...so if you take it to court you could just be prolonging the agony and still come out the loser in the end. not an experience that sounds pleasant by any stretch of the imagination.

i gotta agree with allycat on just chalking it up to a learning experience and moving on. yes it sucks and yes it sounds unfair. however, i think almost everyone has had some sort of horrible story like this where it cost you the job and you didn't even realize what was going on behind the scenes etc, but unfortunately unless you work for yourself you are always going to be subject to some sort of office politics or unhappiness at some point. you just gotta pick yourself up and move on. sad but true!! good luck.
 

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Well, I never intended on taking it to court or whatever because 1) I don't have the money, 2) it's not worth the money nor the time and 3) because of the standard probationary period of one year attached to government jobs, I have no rights according to HR. I wrote that letter because I was asked to do so when attempting to have a meeting with those involved to discuss the issue. They would't give me the time of day otherwise. I also wanted to write that letter so that Tallahassee knew how the Pensacola branch was treating their employees and so that those involved would hear my side of the story. Like I said before, it's not about getting my job back. If that's the way they're going to treat people, I don't want to work for them. It's about getting my integrity back are damaging theirs in the eyes of the capitol. They asked me to write a letter, I did and I dropped it, and I moved on with the belief that it is their loss. I don't know where everyone is thinking I plan on taking further action?
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ETA: I just got a call for another interview at a Medical Spa on the beach! Yeah, Yeah, it's not exactly in my field, but it seems like it would be nice and I think the pay was pretty decent. It's also a probable foot in the door in the medical field, which is also one of my dream fields.
 

aphisiglovessae

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Date: 5/9/2006 3:44:15 PM
Author: rfath
oh, I''m so sorry to hear that this happened! I hate hearing stories about office politics and political firings - they HURT, even when you know you did nothing wrong!


I''ve found in the science world that there seems to be an unusual concentration of people with science backgrounds made into managers, but without skills to supervise people. I had one boss, shortly before she had a nervous breakdown, tell the vice-president of the company that I hadn''t shown up to work (I was doing my senior undergraduate thesis there) in a few weeks. Strange since this is the same woman who suggested that I keep a lab notebook keeping track of the time that I came in, the times that I started and finished experiements, etc. I was totally crushed when I got word that I was fired, but fortunately just angry enough to show my notebook to the VP. They couldn''t really admit that they had a legitimate reason for firing me, so kept me on until the project was completed. Tense working environment is an understatement...


Anyway... *hugs* and keep your chin up - you''ll come out of this even better off.

That was the main reason why I say it''s not about getting my job back. If I did, I know that all those involved in the previous issue would try to make my life a living hell. Of course, I would try to ignore it and do my best, regardless, to prove them wrong and to show they can''t run me off. In all actuality it would be TOUGH. I was always raised to never work in a job that I didn''t enjoy. That environment would certainly not be enjoyable. Did you have to endure it long??
 

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oh i dont know where that assumption came from aphis....i just saw other posts and for whatever reason thought you were seeking legal action or something. sorry...great about the new interviews!
 

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Date: 5/8/2006 11:48:00 AM
Author: aphisiglovessae
Thanks so much for all your encouragement. It''s actually good to know that it hasn''t just happened to me. It''s just really wrong and I hope that all those who do this to people will get it in the end. Karma...

Qtiekiki, that is a weird coincidence! If your DH comes across any jobs in GIS in the Pensacola area, please let me know. My FI says that his lack of CAD experience is what''s holding him back right now. Hopefully soon we''ll be able to afford the classes he needs to get that experience. Until I get a job though, it''s going to be tough.

Well folks, I just got back from my interview with Sevrn Trent Laboratories this morning. It was a really laid back interview with some pleasant conversation. She says she has a few others to interview, but I will hopefully find out Thursday whether I''ve been chosen. Keep those fingers crossed!
We are in the opposite end of the states (L.A. to be exact), but we''ll keep an eye out.

Glad all those interviews are coming in for you. Good Luck!
 

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Date: 5/9/2006 5:33:33 PM
Author: aphisiglovessae
That was the main reason why I say it''s not about getting my job back. If I did, I know that all those involved in the previous issue would try to make my life a living hell. Of course, I would try to ignore it and do my best, regardless, to prove them wrong and to show they can''t run me off. In all actuality it would be TOUGH. I was always raised to never work in a job that I didn''t enjoy. That environment would certainly not be enjoyable. Did you have to endure it long??

Long enough... a few months while I wrote my thesis. It was pretty toxic, since there was an impression that I was a lazy worker not interested in what I was doing. I got questioned a few times a week about how much longer I needed to finish the project. They couldn''t wait for me to leave.

It still haunts me a lot, even years later. I''m constantly worrying what supervisors think of me, wondering if they have the wrong impression. I''m not a talkative, effusive person and some people interpret that as being sullen and uninterested - so totally far from the truth!
 
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