Red Flags with These 2 Stones?

[diamondshopper9000]

Hi All -

First of all - thanks to everyone who posts on Pricescope the info on here has been extremely valuable in my search! I saw the following 2 stones at a local B&M jewelry store and I wanted to see if there were any potential red flags that may impact the overall appearance of either stone. Additionally, I wanted to get an opinion of the price for each stone...

Since this store does not have any H&A (or ideal cut) stones of this size I''m having difficulty being able to compare with other things I have seen at different stores/online.

Stone #1
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Report: GIA
Shape: Round Brilliant
Carat: 2.06
Color: H
Clarity: SI1
Depth %: 59.1%
Table %: 57%
Crown Angle: 32.0
Crown %: 13.5%
Pavilion Angle: 40.8
Pavilion %: 42.5
Lower Girdle %: 75%
Girdle: Very Thin - Slightly Thick (Faceted)
Measurements: 8.31-8.40x4.94mm
Polish: VG
Symmetry: VG
Cut: VG
Culet: Very Small
Fluorescence: None
Price: $20,700

Stone #2
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Report: AGS (Diamond Quality Report Document)
Shape: Round
Carat: 1.76
Color: H
Clarity: SI1
Depth %: 60.7%
Table %: 60.1%
Crown Angle: 33.9
Crown %: 13.4%
Pavilion Angle: 41.3
Pavilion %: 43.8%
Lower Girdle %: 60.7%
Girdle: Thin to Slightly Thick (Faceted)
Measurements: 7.80-7.83x4.74mm
Polish: EX
Symmetry: EX
Cut: No Cut Grade
Culet: Pointed
Fluorescence: None
Price: $14,500

Any info you can provide would be greatly appreciated - thanks!

 

[Richard Sherwood]

DS9000, would you recheck the lower girdle figure on stone #2? It doesn''t look correct. I think you might have read it off the total depth listing (60.7%).

 

[diamondshopper9000]

You are correct - sorry for the error, 81% seems to be the correct value...

 

[strmrdr]

stone 2 is likely the better of the 2 what is the cut grade on the AGS report?
The first one may have durability issues, v-thin girdle and shallow crown angle.
It needs to be checked in person by an expert.
Frankly I would pass on both and look for a more modern ideal cut with a smaller table than the second one.

 

[diamondshopper9000]

Date: 11/5/2007 11:46:54 PM
Author: strmrdr
stone 2 is likely the better of the 2 what is the cut grade on the AGS report?
The first one may have durability issues, v-thin girdle and shallow crown angle.
It needs to be checked in person by an expert.
Frankly I would pass on both and look for a more modern ideal cut with a smaller table than the second one.

The AGS report does NOT have a cut rating for stone 2 - its a ''Diamond Quality Report Document'' report...does this usually contain a cut rating?

Thanks very much for the info you provided...

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 11/6/2007 12:02:53 AM
Author: diamondshopper9000

Date: 11/5/2007 11:46:54 PM
Author: strmrdr
stone 2 is likely the better of the 2 what is the cut grade on the AGS report?
The first one may have durability issues, v-thin girdle and shallow crown angle.
It needs to be checked in person by an expert.
Frankly I would pass on both and look for a more modern ideal cut with a smaller table than the second one.

The AGS report does NOT have a cut rating for stone 2 - its a ''Diamond Quality Report Document'' report...does this usually contain a cut rating?

Thanks very much for the info you provided...

my bad I saw the word document and thought cut grade.
They have 2:
''Diamond Quality Report'' with no cut grade.
''Diamond Quality Document'' with cut grade.
There isn''t a ''Diamond Quality Report Document''
https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/ags-dqd-grading-reports-old-and-new.45611/

Personally I wouldn''t buy either of the stones listed.