Quote of the day!

[ksinger]

"The Democrats seem to be basically nicer people, but they have demonstrated time and time again that they have the management skills of celery. They''re the kind of people who''d stop to help you change a flat, but would somehow manage to set your car on fire. I would be reluctant to entrust them with a Cuisinart, let alone the economy. The Republicans, on the other hand, would know how to fix your tire, but they wouldn''t bother to stop because they''d want to be on time for Ugly Pants Night at the country club."
~ Dave Barry


Dave Barry: always something for everyone....

 

[Irishgrrrl]

Date: 11/1/2008 5:49:55 PM
Author: ksinger
''The Democrats seem to be basically nicer people, but they have demonstrated time and time again that they have the management skills of celery. They''re the kind of people who''d stop to help you change a flat, but would somehow manage to set your car on fire. I would be reluctant to entrust them with a Cuisinart, let alone the economy. The Republicans, on the other hand, would know how to fix your tire, but they wouldn''t bother to stop because they''d want to be on time for Ugly Pants Night at the country club.''
~ Dave Barry


Dave Barry: always something for everyone....

ROFLMAO!!!!!

 

[iheartscience]

Date: 11/1/2008 3:02:07 PM
Author: MoonWater

Date: 11/1/2008 8:11:43 AM

Author: beebrisk

''The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time; the hand of force may destroy but cannot disjoin them''

--Thomas Jefferson

How interesting that you quote the man that was accused of being an atheist in his very own life time.

This all makes me giggle.

And on that note, one of my fave quotes attributed to Jefferson:

''Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear.''

Oooh, that''s a good one, Moon! Especially in the context of this election! You''re good, lady-you''re good!

 

[beebrisk]

Date: 11/1/2008 8:51:03 PM
Author: thing2of2

Date: 11/1/2008 3:02:07 PM

Author: MoonWater

Date: 11/1/2008 8:11:43 AM


Author: beebrisk


''The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time; the hand of force may destroy but cannot disjoin them''


--Thomas Jefferson

How interesting that you quote the man that was accused of being an atheist in his very own life time.


This all makes me giggle.

And on that note, one of my fave quotes attributed to Jefferson:


''Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear.''

Jefferson, as well as the most pious men and women throughout history have ALL questioned the existence of God. It is precisely this line of questioning that brings most people to their faith.

Existential drama was well known to men like Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln and even Mother Theresa.

St. John of the Cross (16th century) referred to this as "the dark night"...A phrase used to describe the characteristic stage of growth before the greatest of spiritual awakenings.

So sad humanity''s deepest, most personal spiritual questions make you giggle.


Nevertheless, amid the greatest difficulties of my Administration, when I could not see any other resort, I would place my whole reliance on God, knowing that all would go well, and that He would decide for the right.

Enough is known of Army operations within the last five days to claim our especial gratitude to God; while what remains undone demands our most sincere prayers to, and reliance upon, Him, without whom, all human effort is vain.

---Both quotes, Abraham Lincoln

 

[ksinger]

Dreams of a universal good create hells of persecution, suffering and slaughter…the Earth has swallowed millions of helpless victims in the vain pursuit of a new heaven and a new Earth. Ironically, it is idealism that leads radical fundmentalists to strip human beings of their dignity and their sanctity and turn them into abstractions.

 

[MoonWater]

Date: 11/2/2008 8:07:43 AM
Author: beebrisk

So sad humanity''s deepest, most personal spiritual questions make you giggle.

Hon, that ain''t why I''m giggling.

lol

 

[swimmer]

In response to claims of Jefferson''s faith "I have recently been examining all the known superstitions of the world, and do not find in our particular superstition (Christianity) one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology."
Thomas Jefferson

More close to my heart...
Children are not simply commodities to be herded into line and trained for the jobs that white people who live in segregated neighborhoods have available.
Jonathan Kozol


Even if you never do anything about this, you''ve benefited from an unjust system. You''re already the winner in a game that was rigged to your advantage from the start.
Jonathan Kozol

 

[MoonWater]

Listen to what we say. There was a time when our forefathers owned this great island. Their seats extended from the rising to the setting sun. The Great Spirit had made it for use of Indians. He had created the buffalo, the deer, and other animals for food. He had made the bear and the beaver. Their skins served us for clothing. He had scattered them over the country, and taught us how to take them. He had caused the earth to produce corn for bread. All this He had done for his red children, because He loved them. If we had some disputes about our hunting ground, they were generally settled without the shedding of much blood. But an evil day came upon us. Your forefathers crossed the great water, and landed on this island. Their numbers were small. They found friends and not enemies. They told us they had fled from their own country for fear of wicked men, and had come here to enjoy their religion. They asked for a small seat. We took pity on them; granted their request; and they sat down amongst us. We gave them corn and meat; they gave us poison in return.

The white people, brother, had now found our country. Tidings were carried back, and more came amongst us. Yet we did not fear them. We took them to be friends. They called us brothers. We believed them, and gave them a larger seat. At length their numbers had greatly increased. They wanted more land; they wanted our country. Our eyes were open, and our minds became uneasy. Wars took place. Indians were hired to fight against Indians, and many of our own people were destroyed. They also brought strong liquor amongst us. It was strong and powerful, and has slain thousands.

Our seats were once large, and yours were small. You have now become a great people, and we have scarcely a place left to spread our blankets. You have got our country, but are not satisfied; you want to force your religion upon us.

-Sagoywatha, also known as Red Jacket, Chief of the Seneca tribe in New York

Isn't it ironic? Doncha think?

And now I'll laugh my way to brunch...

 

[trillionaire]

Date: 11/2/2008 11:11:06 AM
Author: ksinger
Dreams of a universal good create hells of persecution, suffering and slaughter…the Earth has swallowed millions of helpless victims in the vain pursuit of a new heaven and a new Earth. Ironically, it is idealism that leads radical fundmentalists to strip human beings of their dignity and their sanctity and turn them into abstractions.

 

[ksinger]

Date: 11/2/2008 1:32:27 PM
Author: trillionaire

Date: 11/2/2008 11:11:06 AM
Author: ksinger
Dreams of a universal good create hells of persecution, suffering and slaughter . . . the Earth has swallowed millions of helpless victims in the vain pursuit of a new heaven and a new Earth. Ironically, it is idealism that leads radical fundmentalists to strip human beings of their dignity and their sanctity and turn them into abstractions.

Thanks Trill! That one is by Chris Hedges. A lot of the ones I''ve been posting are from a book entitled, "Ain''t Nobody''s Business If You Do: The Absurdity of Consensual Crimes In A Free Society" by Peter McWilliams. I haven''t even started working through some of the fun stuff from our old well-thumbed copy of "The Notebooks Of Lazarus Long" by Heinlein.

I love quotes - collect em like stamps or.....books!

Thank goodness they take up less space than the books, at least!

 

[trillionaire]

Aldous Huxley:

"At least two thirds of our miseries spring from human stupidity, human malice and those great motivators and justifiers of malice and stupidity, idealism, dogmatism and proselytizing zeal on behalf of religious or political idols."


Alex Carey:

"... the 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: The growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy."

Australian social scientist, quoted by Noam Chomsky in World Orders Old and New


Anais Nin:

"When we blindly adopt a religion, a political system, a literary dogma, we become automatons. We cease to grow."


Arthur Schlesinger, Jr.:

What we need is a rebirth of satire, of dissent, of irreverence, of an uncompromising insistence that phoniness is phony and platitudes are platitudinous.

 

[trillionaire]

Carolyn Heilbrun:

Thinking about profound social change, conservatives always expect disaster, while revolutionaries confidentially expect utopia. Both are wrong.

Confucius:

To put the world right in order, we must first put the nation in order; to put the nation in order, we must first put the family in order; to put the family in order, we must first cultivate our personal life; we must first set our hearts right.

Demosthenes:

There is one safeguard known generally to the wise, which is an advantage and security to all, but especially to democracies as against despots. What is it? Distrust.


Edward Dowling:

The two greatest obstacles to democracy in the United States are, first, the widespread delusion among the poor that we have a democracy, and second, the chronic terror among the rich, lest we get it. [1941]

 

[MoonWater]

Date: 11/2/2008 2:52:22 PM
Author: trillionaire

Anais Nin:


''When we blindly adopt a religion, a political system, a literary dogma, we become automatons. We cease to grow.''

Ah yes, Nin. I utterly adore that woman. I keep my hopes up for having a girl just so I can name her after her.