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CptRon

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GIA certified

1.02 Ct.

H
SI-2
Good Polish
Very Good Symmetry
no culet
no flourescence
59% table
41.2% Pavillion
Thin-Sl. Thick

Help!
 
You were looking at an ACA last night.

Is this a joke...? You may have just bought? You don't know? I'm slow about these things.
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Did I miss something? Depth and crown please?
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Any pics?
 
Sorry, Depth 60.5%, Table 59%
 
Do you have the Pavilion and Crown angles?
 
You forgot to post the crown angle...

If you have pavilion angle, rather than % that would be better.

x x x
 
Date: 4/24/2008 3:48:29 PM
Author:CptRon
GIA certified


1.02 Ct.


H

SI-2

Good Polish

Very Good Symmetry

no culet

no flourescence

59% table

41.2% Pavillion

Thin-Sl. Thick


Help!

No offense, but you need to stop impulse purchasing stones!
 
Sorry....

Crown: 41.2%
Pavillion: 33.5%
Table: 59%
Depth: 60.5%
Good Polish
Very Good Symmetry
Thin-Sl. Thick
no culet no flourescence

GIA 1.02, H, SI-2
 
Apologies for original version of this post - I entered your data as angles not %.

Can you please post the angles for a more accurate assessment?

Based on the % data for crown and pavilion the HCA says your girdle is dangerously thin.

x x x
 
You are muddling up the crown and pavilion data in your posts - and have switched the two around.

Please check the data carefully and confirm which is the crown and which is the pavilion data.

Please also confirm if you are posting the angle in degrees (much more accurate) or if you are posting the %.

Alternatively, post the GIA cert number and I can look it up for you...

x x x

*ETA* OK... assuming that:

Depth - 60.5%
Table - 59%
Crown ANGLE - 33.5 degrees
Pavilion ANGLE - 41.2 degrees

then the HCA scores 2.8 Vg/Vg/Vg/Vg for Light Return/Fire/Scintillation/Spread

Are these details correct before I make further comment?
 
It''s certainly not the quality of an ACA or ideal cut stone, but it''s not as bad as it could be. Aside from the measurements not being ideal, we always recommend at least very good for polish and symmetry.
 
I hope when you say "may have bought" in the title of the thread you didn't actually buy this! The good folks here have given you tons of great diamonds over the past few days. Why in the world would you choose this one??? What happened to the ACA's you were considering?
 
OK. Here is the GIA certificate number. Please advise...15276142. The diamond looks amazing, no matter what the HCA says...
 
If that stone looks amazing (I wonder if it is the bright sparkly lights of a jewellery shop!) just imagine what an ACA would look like - it would blow your mind!

Please don''t scrimp on cut, you will regret it!
 
ok, but how about the one I posted???
 
To be brutally honest, I don''t like the cut grade, symmetry or the polish. The cut grade is the most important thing you need to look at - a really well cut diamond with sparkle and look amazing. I really can''t stress this point enough. The table and depth are close to what we call a 60/60 stone and not all people like the look of those. An H stone with a not so crash-hot cut grading will show colour more too, whereas an ideal cut stone will hide the colour of an H and face up whiter.

An ACA from WF or H&A from GOG would out-perform that stone hands down.
 
Date: 4/24/2008 7:22:28 PM
Author: ImpatientOne
I hope when you say ''may have bought'' in the title of the thread you didn''t actually buy this! The good folks here have given you tons of great diamonds over the past few days. Why in the world would you choose this one??? What happened to the ACA''s you were considering?
ditto - why ignore genuine advice!?
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I really do apreaciate the advice on this forum. It has enlightened me beyon anything else. The only problem I see is that there is a major bias to online vendors. These vendors may have great diamonds, but if you can get a great deal from a local B&M, why not? I bought the previously mentioned stone and .75 ct. setting round and baguettte for $5,000 with tax. I know that I got a great deal no matter what. I don''t think anyone can deny that it is a good deal.
 
I had a 60/60 that I hated!

Maybe you should contact Mark at Engagement Rings Direct and see if he can find you a diamond in the price range you''re looking for that is not an ACA but GIA excellent. He has a large database that he can access becasue he''s in the diamond district.
 
Date: 4/25/2008 2:21:02 AM
Author: arjunajane

Date: 4/24/2008 7:22:28 PM
Author: ImpatientOne
I hope when you say ''may have bought'' in the title of the thread you didn''t actually buy this! The good folks here have given you tons of great diamonds over the past few days. Why in the world would you choose this one??? What happened to the ACA''s you were considering?
ditto - why ignore genuine advice!?
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You can lead a horse to water...
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I''m glad that you are pleased with your diamond and the price you paid CptRon: I guess that''s what really matters. :)

x x x
 
Date: 4/25/2008 2:35:25 AM
Author: CptRon
I really do apreaciate the advice on this forum. It has enlightened me beyon anything else. The only problem I see is that there is a major bias to online vendors. These vendors may have great diamonds, but if you can get a great deal from a local B&M, why not? I bought the previously mentioned stone and .75 ct. setting round and baguettte for $5,000 with tax. I know that I got a great deal no matter what. I don''t think anyone can deny that it is a good deal.
I am all for a great deal! But a poorer cut stone will be worth less, hence the ''great deal'' you are getting. For example, a D colour, VS1 clarity Ideal cut stone with an AGS certificate will be worth more than a D colour, VS1 clarity very good cut. The CUT is what makes it sparkle!!

We are probably biased to online vendors here as they have some stunning stones and put a lot of emphasis on cut, which is what us PSers are critically interested in. We want our diamonds to sparkle and shine, not look dead like a frozen piece of spit.

If you are happy with that stone, then that''s fine, I am glad you have a diamond that YOU are happy with at a price you are happy paying. That is what is important here. A lot of PSers are obsessive and want the best possible diamond for our money. Some just don''t understand this obsession for stones with great ''numbers'' and perfect H&A patterns etc etc.

When comparing prices and determining your great deal, you really need to compare apples with apples, not very good cuts with ideal cuts. They are in a different price range and not comparable.
 
Yep, our bias is to ideal cut stones. If your B&M had just sold you a GIA Excellent at that price I''d say great. I think you paid a fairl retail price for what you got.
 
Date: 4/25/2008 2:35:25 AM
Author: CptRon
I really do apreaciate the advice on this forum. It has enlightened me beyon anything else. The only problem I see is that there is a major bias to online vendors. These vendors may have great diamonds, but if you can get a great deal from a local B&M, why not? I bought the previously mentioned stone and .75 ct. setting round and baguettte for $5,000 with tax. I know that I got a great deal no matter what. I don''t think anyone can deny that it is a good deal.
You know, there''s an old saying, that isn''t just an old saying. "You get what you pay for".

You paid for an average cut stone. It''s not a train wreck for sure, but it''s not an exceptional cut either. If that''s not what you wanted, then you did ok.
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Best of luck with the proposal!
 
Date: 4/25/2008 2:35:25 AM
Author: CptRon
I really do apreaciate the advice on this forum. It has enlightened me beyon anything else. The only problem I see is that there is a major bias to online vendors. These vendors may have great diamonds, but if you can get a great deal from a local B&M, why not? I bought the previously mentioned stone and .75 ct. setting round and baguettte for $5,000 with tax. I know that I got a great deal no matter what. I don''t think anyone can deny that it is a good deal.
Cpt Ron - I wear a 60/60 diamond that scores about what yours does on the HCA, and it is a beautiful stone (has good polish as well). It was hand-selected at a B&M. It has a different look than an ideal cut, but it is still beautiful. Side by side with an ideal cut stone, I can see a difference in sparkle, but mine still knocks the socks off most diamonds in the market. My secret is to keep it clean, clean, clean. Clean the ring every day to maximize sparkle and beauty.

Best of luck with your proposal, and please come back with hand shots.
 
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