Questions on Color?

[wde21]

Hi Guys, new to the whole diamond world. Way more to it than I could have ever imagined. What are your opinons on a J Color Stone. Is there that much of a difference between J and a G or H? Will the color be noticable to the naked eye? Any type of information would be appreciated.

 

[stone-cold11]

Depends on your color sensitivity. For me, no difference face up.

This is a useful video that demonstrate what color is.http://vimeo.com/3288695

But note that your color perception based on the video can be skewed due to your display setting.

 

[wde21]

Thanks for posting the video. Here is a diamond that I am inquiring about(no idealscope image- how do i go about getting this?). Any thoughts or opinions given the measurables?

Round Brilliant
Measurements: 7.60 - 7.66 x 4.67 mm

Carat Weight: 1.71 carat
Color Grade: J
Clarity Grade: VS2
Cut Grade: Very Good

Proportions:
Depth: 61.2%
Table: 59%
Crown Angle: 34.5°
Crown Height: 14.0%
Pavilion Angle: 40.8°
Pavilion Depth: 43.0%
Star length: 50%
Lower Half: 80%
Girdle: Medium to Thick, Faceted (4.0%)
Culet: None

Finish:
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Very Good
Fluorescence: Faint

 

[stone-cold11]

Looks promising except for the Thick in the girdle measurement, that will hide some weight making the stone face up of a smaller diameter compared to an ideally cut stone of the same weight.

Check with your vendor if he can provide idealscope image.

 

[HVVS]

I've been doing a lot of looking lately, trying to decide how much color and what color I can stand. I'm buying for myself, so I can be picky, lol. The next diamond I buy will be a G or higher color. I think I'm in the camp that believes H is end of "white" and "I" color starts to look light yellow or slight brown or whatever. There are people here who say no lower than H color for an e-ring, and others who say J or K or below is great.

The amount of J tint seen depends partly on color sensitivity, and partly on stone size, and partly on stone shape. Small RBs don't show much color. Princess and Asscher and other deep colors will show color from the side, if not face up. Keep in mind that J is a broad color range, i.e. there's a fairly wide range of tint that's still called a J. It may be close to I or it may be borderline K.

With a 1.7ct, you are going to see the tint. Some threads to look at:

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/j-color-stones-in-platinum.24731/
https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/i-color-stones-in-platinum.9689/
https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/is-there-thread-for-i-color-stones.39886/
https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/k-color-stones-in-platinum-wg.43782/

Pic is G on the left 1.25ct approx. and a high J on the right 1.5ct. approx.. There are Js darker than this.

 

[jstarfireb]

Date: 10/7/2009 4:56:16 PM
Author: HVVS
Pic is G on the left 1.25ct approx. and a high J on the right 1.5ct. approx.

And I personally can''t tell the difference when I look. So it really depends on your individual level of sensitivity to color. You''ll just have to look at a bunch of stones yourself to decide.

 

[HVVS]

That J is candlelight ivory and the G is slightly offwhite to me, even in a pic, lol.

Oh, and Good Old Gold has a series of videos on color. They show D next to a range of stones, side by side. I think there''s a video of a big G beside a big I or J, too.

 

[Todd Gray]

Date: 10/7/2009 5:07:32 PM
Author: HVVS
That J is candlelight ivory and the G is slightly offwhite to me, even in a pic, lol.

Me too

Technically speaking, it is possible that the white metal setting is affecting the body color of the G color diamond and helping it face up a little whiter since it will reflect a little into the stone... But even still, I believe the difference can be seen by most people (with a little coaching) from a side profile, but tends to be a little more difficult for people to discern between two diamonds that are set in similar settings when viewed from a top down perspective.