Question for experts and "prosumers"..

[arjunajane]

Hi all,
would like the input of those in the know (and anyone else with an opinion

) on this one...
Between these two diamonds

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/4404/

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/3334/

Apart from the obvious of the size difference, I am interested in how the differing appearance of these stones, specifically the arrows, will translate in real life?
As in, would diamond 1 with the skinnier arrows perform better in certain lighting, and vice versa?
What are the advantages and disadvantages of skinny vs fat arrows, if any? Or is it just personal preference?
I''m afraid I haven''t seen enough well cut stones IRL to know which I would like better - so I would love some advice.

Thankyou in advance!
AJ

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 6/6/2008 1:36:30 PM
Author:arjunajane
Hi all,
would like the input of those in the know (and anyone else with an opinion

) on this one...
Between these two diamonds

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/4404/

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/3334/

Apart from the obvious of the size difference, I am interested in how the differing appearance of these stones, specifically the arrows, will translate in real life?
As in, would diamond 1 with the skinnier arrows perform better in certain lighting, and vice versa?
What are the advantages and disadvantages of skinny vs fat arrows, if any? Or is it just personal preference?
I''m afraid I haven''t seen enough well cut stones IRL to know which I would like better - so I would love some advice.

Thankyou in advance!
AJ

Ooooh!!! I would ask Jon about the differences between the performance of these 2 AJ, but personally, I love longer LGF''s, so maybe it is a personal preference thing. The 1.5 ct looks to be a very nice pick if you want to go bigger, but I thought you were done and dusted?

 

[arjunajane]

Date: 6/6/2008 1:50:35 PM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 6/6/2008 1:36:30 PM
Author:arjunajane
Hi all,
would like the input of those in the know (and anyone else with an opinion

) on this one...
Between these two diamonds

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/4404/

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/3334/

Apart from the obvious of the size difference, I am interested in how the differing appearance of these stones, specifically the arrows, will translate in real life?
As in, would diamond 1 with the skinnier arrows perform better in certain lighting, and vice versa?
What are the advantages and disadvantages of skinny vs fat arrows, if any? Or is it just personal preference?
I''m afraid I haven''t seen enough well cut stones IRL to know which I would like better - so I would love some advice.

Thankyou in advance!
AJ

Ooooh!!! I would ask Jon about the differences between the performance of these 2 AJ, but personally, I love longer LGF''s, so maybe it is a personal preference thing. The 1.5 ct looks to be a very nice pick if you want to go bigger, but I thought you were done and dusted?

I know, I''m terrible..I hadn''t seen this one previous. I do love my stone - but I have no idea if this would be a better choice (size aside of course).
So the skinner arrows are caused by the longer LGF''s then..pls ignore if you don''t have the time, but do we have any "real life" photos of PS''ers stones like this?
Thankyou as always for your response Lorelei

 

[arjunajane]

Just another question - I read somewhere that the hearts image ideally shouldn''t have "splits" down the centre of the hearts.
The Hearts of the 1.55 all have splits most of the way through them - is this a bad thing?

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 6/6/2008 1:59:35 PM
Author: arjunajane

Date: 6/6/2008 1:50:35 PM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 6/6/2008 1:36:30 PM
Author:arjunajane
Hi all,
would like the input of those in the know (and anyone else with an opinion

) on this one...
Between these two diamonds

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/4404/

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/3334/

Apart from the obvious of the size difference, I am interested in how the differing appearance of these stones, specifically the arrows, will translate in real life?
As in, would diamond 1 with the skinnier arrows perform better in certain lighting, and vice versa?
What are the advantages and disadvantages of skinny vs fat arrows, if any? Or is it just personal preference?
I'm afraid I haven't seen enough well cut stones IRL to know which I would like better - so I would love some advice.

Thankyou in advance!
AJ

Ooooh!!! I would ask Jon about the differences between the performance of these 2 AJ, but personally, I love longer LGF's, so maybe it is a personal preference thing. The 1.5 ct looks to be a very nice pick if you want to go bigger, but I thought you were done and dusted?

I know, I'm terrible..I hadn't seen this one previous. I do love my stone - but I have no idea if this would be a better choice (size aside of course).
So the skinner arrows are caused by the longer LGF's then..pls ignore if you don't have the time, but do we have any 'real life' photos of PS'ers stones like this?
Thankyou as always for your response Lorelei

Here we go, DeeJay's fabulous stone also with 85% LGF's! Here is a pic before the reset.

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-temporary-3-37-yes-i-did-it.47739/

And after!!!
https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/the-eagle-has-landed.55342/

 

[strmrdr]

personal preference.
Between those 2 you would get mostly pinfire to even more so mostly pinfire.
If you followed my thread on virtual facets this will help.
The one with the longer lgf% has smaller virtual facets.
The longer lgf% likely take a small hit in soft lighting because of it but the efficient crown pavilion combination would counter act some of it.
With some combos it would be a downgrade but it can work with that one.
I second talking to Jon about it.

I considered one myself and from talking to Jon have a feeling I would like them a lot.

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 6/6/2008 2:02:58 PM
Author: arjunajane
Just another question - I read somewhere that the hearts image ideally shouldn't have 'splits' down the centre of the hearts.
The Hearts of the 1.55 all have splits most of the way through them - is this a bad thing?

The splits are dependant on lgf%, AGS and GIA as well as others has determined that there is no one size fit all ideal lgf%.
The default combination for cutting AGS0 stones in the AGS cutting guide will show clefts in the hearts.

 

[arjunajane]

Thankyou Lorelei for the link.
And cheers Strm for the explanation - I will look up the thread you mentioned and read again now that I have a vested interest

So, if I prefer broad chunky flash in my diamonds, then i would steer towards the shorter lgf (second stone)..?

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 6/6/2008 2:21:13 PM
Author: arjunajane
Thankyou Lorelei for the link.
And cheers Strm for the explanation - I will look up the thread you mentioned and read again now that I have a vested interest

So, if I prefer broad chunky flash in my diamonds, then i would steer towards the shorter lgf (second stone)..?

To me, it is hard to say definitely, my diamond has long LGF''s and has plenty of '' broad chunky flash'' - it is a large stone which can lend itself to that also....Maybe see this thread when Dee was choosing her stone, it might have some useful stuff for you!

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/how-do-lgfs-affect-a-stones-appearance.48632/

But AJ, whichever you pick, you are going to end up with one heck of a stone which will offer you sparkle, brilliance, fire and scintillation in abundance - and that is the main thing!

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 6/6/2008 2:21:13 PM
Author: arjunajane
Thankyou Lorelei for the link.
And cheers Strm for the explanation - I will look up the thread you mentioned and read again now that I have a vested interest

So, if I prefer broad chunky flash in my diamonds, then i would steer towards the shorter lgf (second stone)..?

Have Jon do a video under spotlighting that will show the difference and you can pick which you like better.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 6/6/2008 2:37:50 PM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 6/6/2008 2:21:13 PM
Author: arjunajane
Thankyou Lorelei for the link.
And cheers Strm for the explanation - I will look up the thread you mentioned and read again now that I have a vested interest

So, if I prefer broad chunky flash in my diamonds, then i would steer towards the shorter lgf (second stone)..?

Have Jon do a video under spotlighting that will show the difference and you can pick which you like better.

Excellent suggestion!

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 6/6/2008 2:31:53 PM
Author: Lorelei

To me, it is hard to say definitely, my diamond has long LGF''s and has plenty of '' broad chunky flash'' - it is a large stone which can lend itself to that also....Maybe see this thread when Dee was choosing her stone, it might have some useful stuff for you!

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/how-do-lgfs-affect-a-stones-appearance.48632/

But AJ, whichever you pick, you are going to end up with one heck of a stone which will offer you sparkle, brilliance, fire and scintillation in abundance - and that is the main thing!

You raised an intersting point pinfire in a 1ct stone can be larger than chuncky fire in a .5ct so size is relavant.
I also agree with that they both will offer sparkle, brilliance, fire and scintillation in abundance.

 

[WinkHPD]

Date: 6/6/2008 2:02:58 PM
Author: arjunajane
Just another question - I read somewhere that the hearts image ideally shouldn''t have ''splits'' down the centre of the hearts.
The Hearts of the 1.55 all have splits most of the way through them - is this a bad thing?

Not necessarily, so long as the split is caused by the longer length of the lower girdle facets and not poor symmetry. Jon currently likes stones with longer lower girdle facets so many of his stones will have this split. The longer lower girdle facets give smaller flashes and many people prefer them. There is a LOT of personal choice available in the appearance of even the best cut diamonds. Shorter lower girdle flashes will give broader and larger flashes which are also preferred by many people.

Jon has some of both available, ask him to show them to you so that you can determine which you like.

Wink

 

[arjunajane]

Thankyou Strm , Wink and Lorelei for the help and info.

Kindly, Jon has offered a video comparing the two - I will check back in once have viewed it, but from looking at DeeJay''s pics I''m thinking I still prefer my fatter arrows