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stroke5

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Can b&m jewelers specify H&A as a search criteria when selecting stones for a customer? The reason I ask is because my local jeweler didn''t know what H&A was - is there anyway to limit the search guidelines so that H&A stones are pulled?

also, the jeweler faxed me GIA certs for some stones but most of the measurements are nearly illegible. Is there any other way to view a copy of the cert?

I would prefer to buy online but i''m just looking at the jeweler because they are friends of my gf''s family. Thanks for your help!
 
if he doesn't know what H&A is, it is doubtful he would have the capacity to search for them.

You dont' need H&A to get a nice stone.

If you can read the report # and carat weight, you can look it up at www.gia.edu/reportcheck
 
Date: 6/11/2008 11:04:13 AM
Author:stroke5
Can b&m jewelers specify H&A as a search criteria when selecting stones for a customer? The reason I ask is because my local jeweler didn't know what H&A was - is there anyway to limit the search guidelines so that H&A stones are pulled?

also, the jeweler faxed me GIA certs for some stones but most of the measurements are nearly illegible. Is there any other way to view a copy of the cert?

I would prefer to buy online but i'm just looking at the jeweler because they are friends of my gf's family. Thanks for your help!
Welcome to Pricescope!

There is certainly no harm in asking him to source h&a diamonds, but you will have to see what he says. If you are set on getting a true h&a diamond, maybe buying online might be the way to go. Also you might want to consider carefully buying from family friends, it may be best to purchase elsewhere, in case you run into issues.
 
I know the stone doesn''t have to be H&A to perform well but I would be interested in comparing H&A and non-H&A side by side if I had a choice between the two.

Thanks for the info on the report check it''s exactly what I was looking for.

Is buying online the best bet for getting a h&a diamond because of a general lack of availability/knowledge at local jewelers? I would have thought that jewelers would be up to date on all of this type of stuff but mine didn''t really know.
 
Date: 6/11/2008 5:11:51 PM
Author: stroke5
I know the stone doesn't have to be H&A to perform well but I would be interested in comparing H&A and non-H&A side by side if I had a choice between the two.

Thanks for the info on the report check it's exactly what I was looking for.

Is buying online the best bet for getting a h&a diamond because of a general lack of availability/knowledge at local jewelers? I would have thought that jewelers would be up to date on all of this type of stuff but mine didn't really know.
Some jewelers may know, but they may not have access to well-cut H&A stones. The number of diamonds purposely cut to show a crisp & uniform pattern is a tiny fraction of the world's production. Similarly, the number of enthusiasts demanding them is tiny compared to the public-at-large. Still, the people who love the idea of diamonds with top cut precision are as passionate about them as the colored stone folks are about color.

Things to keep in mind (from a prior thread):

1. Just because a diamond shows the H&A pattern, no matter how precise, does not mean it has premium light return. Light return is far more important to performance. An ideal-scope or ASET image is helpful in terms showing light return, where H&A photos only show optical symmetry/craftsmanship.

2. Some configurations benefit from optical symmetry more than others (not limited to rounds).Some may be better with asymmetry.

3. In diamonds with top light return the benefits of optical symmetry are increased contrast, consistency in performance and light getting in and out of the stone with more intensity.

With that said…whenever we get into any extremes (rarity or cut quality) we cross into a niche area that may apply to the few more than it applies to the many. PS is a perfect place for these people.


Here is a thread with information on the history and significance of Hearts & Arrows.
 
If you haven''t already, you might want to check out GoodOldGold under video tutorials there''s some great videos that show the differences.
 
Date: 6/11/2008 5:11:51 PM
Author: stroke5
I know the stone doesn''t have to be H&A to perform well but I would be interested in comparing H&A and non-H&A side by side if I had a choice between the two.

Thanks for the info on the report check it''s exactly what I was looking for.

Is buying online the best bet for getting a h&a diamond because of a general lack of availability/knowledge at local jewelers? I would have thought that jewelers would be up to date on all of this type of stuff but mine didn''t really know.
In that case, maybe see if you can find a dealer who sells Hearts on Fire diamonds, so you can compare those with non H&A to get an idea.
 
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