Princess halo

[Misskann2c]

Hi! I finally got my husband to agree to let me re-set my center stone in a setting I loved. I've been watching videos and looking at pics for years. My jeweler had to fix this twice already but I thought was finally perfect. I did not see it with the center stone in it until i got it though. I am a little disappointed to see a space between the halo and the stone. It is a very small space-you can't even really fit a toothpick in it lol but it's a definite space. I am not sure if it's even possible to have 100% seamless with a princess cut ..in the sun it sparkles like crazy and u can't notice a space at all. And now that I have it, I do love it and even like how it emphasises the center stone rather than hides it. However, it still isn't what I was dreaming of and I'm just wondering if anyone knows first- do all halos have tiny seams and second if not, is this a huge deal to fix or can they just push the center down a little? Ha ha I can not get a whole new setting again.. My husband would kill me if I even tried it. Ha ha thanks!!

Here is a link to the video of the way I wanted the halo to look and I did send this to my jeweler
http://instagram.com/p/uJPxg7JGkD/

Thanks all!!

 

[junebug17]

From the side view, it looks like the stone is already set low and just going by the pic I don't think it's possible to lower it any further. (is that what you mean by pushed down?) I don't know, the gap looks fairly pronounced in the first pic and not quite as big in the second. The stone looks a little crooked in the first pic too, but maybe it's the angle. Was this custom made specifically for your stone, or a stock setting? I'm not an expert on settings, but it looks to me like the setting might be too big for the diamond. I don't think there's really anything that can be done to change it, I think you'd have to get a new setting and I'm not sure how your jeweler would handle that. I'm thinking your choices are to live with it, or tell the jeweler your concerns and see what your options are. I've seen princess halos without the gap.

 

[dk168]

This is the side view of my air-line halo of my EC before the stone was being bezel-set:



I specified the ring to be made as low profile as possible, and diamondmounts of eBay that made the semi-mount for me did a great job to meet my request.

Being an air-line halo, there is a gap between the halo and the centre stone, and I like it that way, as the EC stands out more, IMHO, and it provides better finger coverage.

With regard to the OP's ring, IMHO, there is too big a big gap between the basket and the ring for my liking. However, I believe the diamond is set low enough as it is, and am not sure if it can be lowered further. If overall height is an issue, I would look at reducing the gap between the basket and the ring myself. All based on personal preferences, of course.

DK

 

[Misskann2c]

Thanks- this ring was custom made but whether or not fitted to my diamond I don't know. He didn't have my diamond u til it was finished but I'm pretty sure he knew the size. It's definitely not crooked but setting just may be too big for the stone, I really have no idea what the issue is, was just guessing maybe stone set too high. The space isn't overly pronounced like some I've seen ( I think the pics make it look bigger than it is) but it's definitely there and I didn't want it. Now I'm trying to let it grow on me .. Lol but wondering if I can or should do anything to fix it.

 

[Misskann2c]

Oh and I love how the basket sits... Everything else that he did was perfect.. Just what I wanted but it was the third try. lol

 

[Sphene]

Did you specify the points of the halo diamonds? I think they are to big to squash up so you would have to get a bigger center diamond.

 

[Misskann2c]

No I didn't .. I just sent him lots of pictures and videos. None of which had a space like this. I didn't know all the terminology to use.

 

[Sphene]

I think its either a re-do or learn to love what you have many would kill for it

 

[junebug17]

I'm not really sure the size of the melee has much to do with it, I think it's more the way the actual metal setting has been constructed. I'm sorry you didn't get exactly what you wanted Misskann2c, but you sound like you still really like the ring so maybe you could just live with it. Looks like your ring has what is called an airline. Maybe the jeweler didn't understand what you meant even with pics, or (and I don't mean to insult your jeweler) some benches are better than others on making this style of setting. I guess it's up to you on how to proceed. If you are unhappy with the ring, I would speak to the jeweler. There are ring makers who can make a setting without an airline. This is a pic of a setting by Steven Kirsch, just as an example.

I do think a new setting would have to be made to achieve the look you want.

 

[Misskann2c]

Hi, thanks. Yes that ring above is exactly what I was picturing. That is breath taking. I just wasn't sure if when I see pics like this, it's just the light reflecting to make it appear completely seamless. I will attach a pic of mine in the sun to show you what I mean .

If a re-do is the only solution, I'm not sure it will happen unless jeweler agrees to fix the mistake. My husband will most def not pay for another one lol. I just wanted to know if it was even possible to achieve the look I wanted or of was just the lighting in certain pictures before I think about bothering the jeweler with it. I did send him many images and even a video so I think I have a case but he either didn't listen or fully understand or maybe isn't capable.. I'm not sure which . Plus he already had to re-do it twice .. (He sent me pictures of the original setting which was way off. This one looked great but I didn't see it with center stone in ) and I'm not usually this person and I hate being like this..I want to love it. It's makikg me feel sick.

I definitely do still like the ring but I spent 6 years trying to let my original ring grow on me and then spent almost 2 thousand dollars just to do it again. Lol , it's very pretty, the air line is very small. I could certainly live with it. Just not sure I want to!

 

[junebug17]

I'm sorry Misskann, I completely understand how you feel! Many of us here know the disappointment of not being totally happy with a piece. The gap is not as prominent in the last pics you posted, so IRL it's probably subtle. Sometimes things are magnified in pics. And yes, things can get a bit dicey with custom and what a jeweler is willing to do if the piece isn't made to the client's specifications. It's a pretty ring and looks beautiful on your hand!

I just want to mention the setting I posted is pricey just fyi, but just wanted to give an example that it's possible to achieve the look you're talking about.

 

[Misskann2c]

Thanks! It is pretty subtle but depends in the light and the angle. When I got it, it was in a sunny room and I was more focused/worried about the shape and the band . I then took a pic to send to my friend and noticed the gap. It it more pronounced certain pics. Anyway, I am sure that is an expensive setting. I've been following Lauren B and this is a replica of her design. we visited her in the city and her price was more than twice what our usual jeweler charged. I guess now I know why? Lol I already texted jeweler when I first got it to say I loved it. Then the gap started to bug me more and more and I started googling. I guess I'm stuck. Thanks for listening!

 

[Sphene]

How about selling the setting recoup some money and have another go - but it is truly beautiful on your hand its nice coverage

 

[Misskann2c]

I just went to a jewelry store for a professional opinion and he said this is an absolute hack job and I should get my money back .. Not only is the space not what I wanted but it's also not a true air line, it's just poor craftsmanship. On top of that, the diamonds are poor quality and one of the prongs is cracked. I very highly doubt I will be able to get my money back but I guess worth a try..

 

[Sphene]

I am so sorry to hear that - maybe other PSers who have gone through a bad experience like you have some advice of what you can do next

 

[junebug17]

I just went to a jewelry store for a professional opinion and he said this is an absolute hack job and I should get my money back .. Not only is the space not what I wanted but it's also not a true air line, it's just poor craftsmanship. On top of that, the diamonds are poor quality and one of the prongs is cracked. I very highly doubt I will be able to get my money back but I guess worth a try..

I'm glad you got a second opinion Misskann…it was hard to tell from the pics the quality of the setting, and you seemed to be ok with it, but I had a feeling the ring wasn't made quite right…I think you have a good argument for a refund, you should at least give it a try.

 

[Misskann2c]

Thanks.. I was trying to convince myself it was okay and half hoping the second jeweler would re-assure me. He have me the confidence I need to speak to my husband though. He is very assertive when he wants to be and if I get him on board, I think he will be able to get a refund. If not, I'm not sure..I'm not assertive at all lol. I would love to hear how others have handled this, for sure!!! Thanks

 

[Sphene]

May be start a new thread asking for help?

 

[momhappy]

I just went to a jewelry store for a professional opinion and he said this is an absolute hack job and I should get my money back .. Not only is the space not what I wanted but it's also not a true air line, it's just poor craftsmanship. On top of that, the diamonds are poor quality and one of the prongs is cracked. I very highly doubt I will be able to get my money back but I guess worth a try..

Personally, I would be wary of any jeweler who told you this. I think that evaluations by other jewelers can be very helpful, but they may have an incentive (selling you a new ring), so opinions/advice should be taken for what it's worth. I don't think that it's very professional for a jeweler to call someone else's work a "hack job" - there are other (more professional ways) to get your point across.
Having said that, I agree with the concerns you have about your ring. I have a round halo and was very specific about not wanting space between the center stone & halo. Also, it's difficult to tell from your pictures, but I prefer the halo to be slightly angled (down), so that the diamonds are more visible from the sides (and it also makes a setting look a bit more delicate IMO). Your overall halo looks a bit chunky for my liking. I hope that you can get your issues resolved.

 

[Misskann2c]

My halo has diamonds on the sides also , maybe that's why it can't be angled down? I agree about the second jeweler but u did believe him. He showed me what it should look like and also showed me where the prong is cracked. Maybe he could've been more professional about it but he was honest and I could tell he felt bad for me.. As I sat there 8 mos pregnant and crying over upsetting my husband lol

 

[momhappy]

My halo has diamonds on the sides also , maybe that's why it can't be angled down? I agree about the second jeweler but u did believe him. He showed me what it should look like and also showed me where the prong is cracked. Maybe he could've been more professional about it but he was honest and I could tell he felt bad for me.. As I sat there 8 mos pregnant and crying over upsetting my husband lol

The halo could still have been angled slightly, but that's really beside the point.
It's not that I felt that the second jeweler was lying to you - I believe that the ring is flawed based on what you've posted. My issue was with the manner in which he told you, which lacked the professionalism that I would expect.
I'm very sorry about your ring. It's pretty, but you certainly shouldn't have to deal with the flaws. I truly hope that you can get your issues resolved and I wish you luck.

 

[Misskann2c]

Thanks for all your help!! I'm only asking about the angled sides bcuz if in going to do this all over again, I want to know what to ask for exactly

 

[Tekate]

MissKann, I have reset my diamond 3x and had a setting made once and each and every one was a disappointment, except maybe the first one way back in 1997, yellow gold with princess invisible set diamonds (1ct), I really don't like yellow gold and off I went resetting it into 3 settings now, each is a disappointment..each one not right.. I too have a husband that would NOT be pleased to be resetting again.. so I have to wait till he forgets, true!..

I think your ring is really really beautiful, but I see what irks you .. my original stone was 7K it's 1.64 carat G color Vs2, average diamond I've been told by the last jeweler.. to date conservatively I have spent: 6K on settings.. I could have had a Victor Canera perfect setting at this point.. I sometimes wonder if I will never be happy? I hope the setting can be fixed to your liking.. it's truly beautiful! lovely princess!

peace.

 

[Misskann2c]

Ha ha thanks TEkate; that made me feel better! By time this is done, I too could've had a center stone twice the size and probably would've skipped halo! Lmao. I am crafting a text message to the jeweler tonight to send him and see why he says .my worst case scenario is keeping this.. It coukd be a lot worse. I've calmed down from the "hack job" comment.. I don't think it's done as well as it could've been but i do not hate it. Fingers crossed that he agrees to either fix it or refund my money! Thanks for listening all

 

[junebug17]

I'm glad you're feeling better Misskann! I agree that there was no need for the second jeweler to be so blunt and harsh in his comments, I can see why you'd be upset, I would be too. I've never been in this situation, but from what I've seen on PS he could react several ways : refuse to do anything; partial refund; full refund; offer to remake the ring.

I really hope he just agrees to refund your money so you can start fresh with someone else and get a setting you love more. I just think if he could do this setting the way you want it would have been done right the first time. Good luck and let us know how it goes!

 

[Misskann2c]

I agree 100% that he probably can't make what I really want. After speaking with other jewelers, it's weird that he didn't take my center stone until the setting was done. It's like a custom made ring except the halo which is the most inportant part and will be nervous to have him try and fix it but if that's the option he gives me, I will take it! Lol that is my second best result.. Refusing to do anything or a partial refund would stink. So far he has not responded to my text at all.

 

[Misskann2c]

Actually I AM an extremely happy wife. I have an amazing marriage and husband.. And appreciate both very much. What I do not appreciate is your unsolicited sarcastic comments. Neither my marriage or my happiness with my husband has anything to do with my ring setting which I wear on my finger everyday and feel I should be able to love just as much.

 

[momhappy]

I agree 100% that he probably can't make what I really want. After speaking with other jewelers, it's weird that he didn't take my center stone until the setting was done. It's like a custom made ring except the halo which is the most inportant part and will be nervous to have him try and fix it but if that's the option he gives me, I will take it! Lol that is my second best result.. Refusing to do anything or a partial refund would stink. So far he has not responded to my text at all.

If I had an issue of you magnitude, I would not be texting - I would pick up the phone and speak with the jeweler.

 

[junebug17]

I agree 100% that he probably can't make what I really want. After speaking with other jewelers, it's weird that he didn't take my center stone until the setting was done. It's like a custom made ring except the halo which is the most inportant part and will be nervous to have him try and fix it but if that's the option he gives me, I will take it! Lol that is my second best result.. Refusing to do anything or a partial refund would stink. So far he has not responded to my text at all.

If I had an issue of you magnitude, I would not be texting - I would pick up the phone and speak with the jeweler.

Misskann, I had the same thought as momhappy - I think it's better to speak to him directly on this.

 

[msop04]

I agree 100% that he probably can't make what I really want. After speaking with other jewelers, it's weird that he didn't take my center stone until the setting was done. It's like a custom made ring except the halo which is the most inportant part and will be nervous to have him try and fix it but if that's the option he gives me, I will take it! Lol that is my second best result.. Refusing to do anything or a partial refund would stink. So far he has not responded to my text at all.

I would go on in and speak to the jeweler, showing him what you dislike. I think the ring would have to be made again, as I'm not sure how it could be repaired/changed...

I agree with you, Misskann2c... although the jeweler made a custom setting, it was certainly not custom made to fit your stone. Maybe consider a more experienced jeweler who understands a halo must be made to fit the individual diamond? Best of luck with whatever you decide... I agree that you should be happy with your ring, and I hope you will be soon!