Potential Buyer Requesting Opinions on this AVC

[tee_higg]

Hello, All,

First-time poster, long-time lurker. As is due, I would like to first extend my sincere thanks and appreciation to the entire PS community. The discussions on this forum are invaluable and have assisted me greatly during my self-education.

I am preparing to purchase a cushion center stone for a 14k RG solitaire e-ring. My main requirement is that it be eye-clean, but the masses of information made available via this site has caused me to be much more picky! Not surprisingly, I have found myself particularly drawn to the AVCs at GOG.

The stone of interest:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WitqPs0W_qk&feature=youtu.be

http://www.goodoldgold.com/ecommerce/1-61ct-j-vs2-august-vintage-cushion-diamond.html

Specific questions:
1. Do you think the location of the central crystalline inclusion will be easily noticed?
2. Will a J AVC seem definitely warm in a 14k setting?
---- Warmth is not desirable in my situation.
3. What are your opinions of the ratios/percentages/specs?

This particular stone would stretch my budget to the max, so, if I choose to do that to myself, I want to ensure she and I are not going to always stare at the inclusion/reflections-of-it or at a "yellow" stone (I know the word yellow is overkill, but it conveys my point).

Any and all opinions and comments are welcome and encouraged.

Thank you in advance,
T

 

[Tourmaline]

I think it's lovely and will be stunning in rose gold! I don't think you'll see the inclusion, and I think the color will be fine.

 

[Tekate]

I have a 1.33 K AVC, it only shows color or warmth to the side, mine also is a VS2.. I think this stone you have picked is gorgeous! I'll post my video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNRJGAT21Es&feature=youtu.be

I have my stone in a pendant but I am seriously thinking of taking it out and having a RHR made... I"m thinkin' but I am also going to have to get my 1.63 MRB (average stone) reset or have the head taken out of it's current setting, it's set too danged high... I love my AVC.. I would love to have a 2.00 carat AVR! I dream... best of luck.. the people are GOG are very very nice.

 

[tyty333]

Its a really (I mean REALLY) gorgeous stone! No, I dont think you will be able to see the inclusion. The color...its such a bright
stone that I doubt you will see much from the top but there may be times in certain lighting that you see the J from the side.

I think maybe the only way for you to decide if a J will work for you is to order it and have a look for yourself.

Are far as specs...did you see all the red in the idealscope? All the red with slight contrast of green and blue in the Aset?
I dont think it gets much better than that!

 

[apacherose]

Just chiming in to say I find that to be a particularly lovely diamond! Pretty, pretty faceting and length-width ratio. GOG can tell you anything at all about whether it is 100% eye clean- it should be at VS 2. FWIW I looked at the clarity plot and tried to find the inclusion in the video and could not... for me I would feel confident. You can also have GOG put it in a rg setting and snap a photo to see how it looks. Color is personal, so you will probably need to see it in person to be certain... would I be ok with that killer diamond in 14k? Yes!!! I think it will be stunning. I would imagine 'yellow' would not even remotely enter your mind as you admire the ring, probably more like wow, what a huge sparkly gorgeous diamond. Is the setting head white gold or rose gold? Even a colorless diamond can look warm at certain angles in a yellow or rose gold setting, just reflecting the tones of the metal or seeing through the diamond to the metal at angles. Good luck.Please come back with photos of the ring!

 

[arkieb1]

Email GOG tell them you have a fussy eye and you want a stone that is 100% eye clean, it should be but if you are nervous get them to confirm this for you. Other than that it is a beautiful stone.

 

[tee_higg]

Thank you for all of the feedback thus far.

... Is the setting head white gold or rose gold?...

The head (studs) will be the same metallurgy as the band- 14k RG.

Email GOG tell them you have a fussy eye and you want a stone that is 100% eye clean, it should be but if you are nervous get them to confirm this for you...

Good advice- I sent them such an email right before creating this topic. Hopefully I get a positive response on Tuesday!

Any additional comments are still welcome and desired (*cough* the renowned CharmyPoo *cough*).

Thanks again for your responses!
T

 

[diamondseeker2006]

It is a beautiful stone, but as others have probably said, only Good Old Gold can confirm how eyeclean it is. VS2 is usually pretty safe, though!

I am not sure what you meant about warmth not being desirable. Because J is not colorless and it is at the bottom of near colorless. So if the recipient likes colorless stones, you have to realize a J is not going to appear like F-G. My AVR is I color and I can definitely see warmth.

Also, I would highly recommend having the head/prongs done in white gold or platinum and only have the shank done in rose gold. The idea is for the prongs not to reflect color into the stone, and rose or yellow gold will. The only reason to use rose or yg is if you want to accentuate (enhance) the color of the stone, and since you are indicating that warmth is not your objective, I recommend white metal for the head of the ring. This is quite common. Can you show us a picture of the setting you are wanting?

 

[tee_higg]

...Also, I would highly recommend having the head/prongs done in white gold or platinum and only have the shank done in rose gold. The idea is for the prongs not to reflect color into the stone, and rose or yellow gold will. The only reason to use rose or yg is if you want to accentuate (enhance) the color of the stone, and since you are indicating that warmth is not your objective, I recommend white metal for the head of the ring. This is quite common....

While I appreciate and understand the recommendation/reasoning of going with a WG/P head, she and I both very much dislike the look of mixed metal settings. For that reason, 100% RG is the only option.

After we established that all metal components would be of a rosy complexion, it was accepted that some color would inevitably be drawn into the stone.

...I am not sure what you meant about warmth not being desirable. Because J is not colorless and it is at the bottom of near colorless. So if the recipient likes colorless stones, you have to realize a J is not going to appear like F-G. My AVR is I color and I can definitely see warmth...

Because of this realization/acceptance (as I stated above), I felt it was a poor use of my limited funds to commit a large portion of my budget toward a colorless stone. With that consideration, I moved down the color scale in order to acquire the 1.5+ ct weight I desire. So, in conclusion, while she "wants" a 2.0 D in RG, I "need" to find a stone that is a good compromise of my criteria; I'm doing this by seeking a center stone that will best "match" the color contributed by the RG head, but does not add any additionally notable warmth.

...Can you show us a picture of the setting you are wanting?

Sure- something like this (from GOG) combined with milgrain edges to emulate the bracelet, which I previously gave her and she loves.

http://www1.bloomingdales.com/shop/...fn=spp=4&ppp=96&sp=1&rid=&spc=35&cm_kws=meira

 

[rubybeth]

Personally, I like the look of a J color stone, and I think it will be lovely in rose gold. However, if she really wants a D color, I'm not sure that this is a good compromise. Does she know how the antique-style stones tend to reflect the colors around them? I'm thinking of many of the photos in this thread, where you can see the surrounding colors reflected in the diamonds:

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/show-me-your-avc-avoec-diamonds.123446/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/show-me-your-avc-avoec-diamonds.123446/[/URL]

I personally love that look, but just want to make sure you understand the nature of the AVC might mean that it's not always going to look 'white.'

 

[tee_higg]

... While she "wants" a 2.0 D ...

I realized I misrepresented her as soon as I posted that. She has no "expectations," but as a young person with essentially zero first-hand experience with real diamonds, I assume she automatically pictures a "D" when she thinks of a diamond. I do not think this is uncommon.

In the end, she and I have discussed that the RG will contribute color and she accepts it. Furthermore, she has expressed her personal opinion of priorities:
1. chunky cushion
2. Eye clean
3. 100% rose gold setting w/ thin band
4. Face-up stone size
5. Any remaining combination which allows 1-4 to become a reality, while looking good to my eye (she trusts my taste)...

Considering my "ground rules," I think I am coming to believe that a J+RG will look beautiful.

 

[arkieb1]

This might be worth looking at;

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/show-me-your-avc-avoec-diamonds.123446/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/show-me-your-avc-avoec-diamonds.123446/[/URL]

I owned a K AVC - was it colourless? No, you could see an obvious tint to the diamond but it was never unpleasant looking if that makes sense. I think it is all about expectations, if you buy an AVC she will get a stunning stone, I think other posters are just making sure she is not going to be put off by the fact that it is not ever going to look like a D colour.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Okay, as long as she is fine with J, I think that is a gorgeous stone! The only other thing I would caution you against is a head as low as the one in the example picture you posted, because any wedding band would rub against those prongs. You want the head (part with the prongs) raised up just a bit so there is room for a wedding band which will not rub the prongs.

Beverley K has beautiful settings that would be nice with an AVC, and they will make it in all rose gold. GOG carries this brand. I will look and see if I can find any other sites with a side view of the settings.

http://www.beverleyk.com/r9149-a-d-d-cz.html

http://www.beverleyk.com/r9153-a-d-d-cz.html

http://www.beverleyk.com/r9154-a-d-d-cz.html

Here are some pictures. If you click on a ring, it will show a couple of additional pictures. I would recommend the shank be at least 1.8-2mm or else you may have problems with durability. 1.8-2mm is still a thin shank, but some BK rings appear to be thinner. GOG can order any BK setting.

http://www.greenwichjewelers.com/shop/designers/beverley-k/1/viewall