please rate the following diamonds!

[h_dog2]

I just received a quote for two rings, please let me know what you think. The current settings are white gold but I am thinking that I would take out the diamonds and place it in a better setting that my girlfriend wanted.

Diamond #1:
Round
Carat: 1.34
Colour F
Clarity VS1
GIA Certificate reads:
Measurements 7.09 - 7.15 x 4.34mm
Depth 61.0%
Table 55%
Girdle Thin to Medium, Faceted
Cutlet None
Finish Polish & Symmetry Very Good

Diamond #2:
Round
Carat: 1.51
Colour F
Clarity VS2
Cut Grade : Excellent
Finish Polish & Symmetry: Excellent
- unfortunately this diamond has no more info than than on the GIA report.... but I do have a report number, if that helps?


Let me know what you think.

 

[Lorelei]

hdog, we need the crown and pavilion angles to be able to help you please, they should be on the first report if you can get to it.

You can try this link as you have the report# for the second diamond.

http://www.gia.edu/reportcheck/

 

[h_dog2]

This is the report for the 1.34 carat diamond

Report Type: GIA Diamond Grading Report
Date Feb 5, 2005

Round Brilliant
Measurements: 7.09 - 7.15 x 4.34 mm
Carat Weight: 1.34
Color Grade: F
Clarity Grade: VS1

Proportions:
Depth: 61.0 %
Table: 55 %
Girdle: Thin to Medium, Faceted

Additonal Info:
Crown Angle: 34.5°
Crown Height: 15.5 %
Pavilion Angle: 40.6°
Pavilion Depth: 43 %
Star length: 50 %
Lower Half: 80 %
Cut Grade: Very Good
Cut grade affected by brillianteering

Finish:
Polish: Very Good
Symmetry: Very Good
Fluorescence: None

 

[h_dog2]

Sorry about all the spaces, I''ve tried to make it a little more easier to read now. it doesn''t copy and paste too well.

here is the report for the 1.51 diamond.

Date of Issue: February 10, 2008
Round Brilliant
Measurements: 7.36 - 7.42 x 4.59 mm
Color Grade: F
Clarity Grade: VS2
Cut Grade: Excellent


Proportions:
Depth: 62.1 %
Table: 56 %
Crown Angle: 33.5°
Crown Height: 14.5 %
Pavilion Angle: 41.8°
Pavilion Depth: 44.5 %
Star length: 50 %
Lower Half: 75 %
Girdle: Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted
Culet: None

Finish:
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Fluorescence: None

Thanks for the link, it was very helpful.

 

[JulieN]

1.34>>>1.51

 

[Lorelei]

You are welcome!

Can you ask for an Idealscope for the first diamond or is it set already? That one looks to be the best bet by the numbers.

 

[h_dog2]

Both diamonds are set already. My plan was to buy it and then have it reset to a knife-edge setting that I know my girlfriend wanted. Does anyone have any conerns with this idea?

I take it the first diamond is a better cut than the second one? Just a general question, I thought I'd go with a better colour than clarity, overall is this the better thing to do?

 

[John P]

Date: 5/28/2008 10:12:37 AM
Author: h_dog2

I take it the first diamond is a better cut than the second one?

Without a doubt (by the numbers). This comment > is the reason the 1.34 is VG and not EX in cut. This could be so slight as to be imperceptible or darken the diamond notably. If the diamond looks beautiful and has great light return, edge to edge, it''s on the slight end.

Date: 5/28/2008 10:12:37 AM
Author: h_dog2

Just a general question, I thought I''d go with a better colour than clarity, overall is this the better thing to do?

Overall cut is king, but it sounds like you hail the king already. If you like an icy look F is nice as you''re in the colorless range but not paying the D premium. In a strict grading metric VS1 and VS2 will appear the same to the naked eye. Good choices.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 5/28/2008 10:12:37 AM
Author: h_dog2
Both diamonds are set already. My plan was to buy it and then have it reset to a knife-edge setting that I know my girlfriend wanted. Does anyone have any conerns with this idea?

I take it the first diamond is a better cut than the second one? Just a general question, I thought I'd go with a better colour than clarity, overall is this the better thing to do?

You could reset it certainly, does the store who has the diamond have the other setting your GF likes, and can do the reset for you?

As Sir John says, the reason this diamond has a VG cut grade is because of the brillianteering, but if your eyes tell you this is a pretty diamond, and if you can, check it out away from the store lights and it looks good, then you shouldn't have anything to worry about.

 

[h_dog2]

Ok, thanks for the information. I have not seen the diamond with my own eyes yet! I have been speaking to a company via email, but what I am going to do is email them and see if they have other rings. by the sound of it, it is not a top quality diamond.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 5/28/2008 11:06:05 AM
Author: h_dog2
Ok, thanks for the information. I have not seen the diamond with my own eyes yet! I have been speaking to a company via email, but what I am going to do is email them and see if they have other rings. by the sound of it, it is not a top quality diamond.

It could well be a lovely stone hdog, by the numbers it looks good and GIA penalize diamonds which may have some brillianteering done, even if it enhances desirable visual properties. As John says who is one of our experts, it may not be an issue - if you could get an Idealscope image, ask the vendors for one, this would be helpful.

Have you looked at a vendor which sells loose diamonds?