Please help! What do you think of this diamond?

[abc123]

HRD cert

2.01 I SI2
Polish: VG
Symetry: VG
Table: 57%
Depth: 63.5%
Crown %: 15.5
Pavillion %: 43.5
Girdle: 4.5 (medium)

Price = $12,700

I know that this is deep and therefore the spread isn''t great, but I''m not sure how much this will affect performance. I saw it and I guess it looks good, but its really hard to tell when you''re not used to looking at diamonds. I ran it through the HCA and it got a 5, which worries me. I bought an Idealscope and looked through that. Not dark red, but kind of a light red/pink with some white around the edges, but not all that much white.

I have a personal connection to this vendor and 100% trust him. He totally recommends this stone and stands by the color and clarity grade from HRD. I''m just a bit worried about the cut and the color/clarity. I was looking more for an H SI1, but this is what he has. I basically want something that is well cut, faces up white and looks eye clean.

What do people think of this diamond and the price?

Thanks!

 

[pricescope]

abc123,

I plugged the numbers in DiamCalc and it shows corresponding crown and pavilion angles 35.7 and 41.0 degree correspondingly. Therefore, if crown and pavilion depth %''s are accurate, you should see quite a bit of white under the table in Ideal-Scope. Thus high penalty on HCA.

However, in reality these % might be rounded and not very accurate. Can you post measurements for the stone?

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Yeah, having the measurements would help to see how much diameter you are losing because of the depth. I think if you want an H SI1, though, you should look for an H SI1. Even though you trust your vendor, if he doesn''t have what you really want, why buy there? I will add that you won''t likely get a well cut 2 ct. I color stone for $12,000. So you either need to go down in size or up in price to get a nice, well cut stone. I''d be a little afraid of SI2 in a 2 ct. stone, personally.

 

[whatmeworry]

It is a steep/deep stone, but it''s on the bottom range of prices for 2 ct I SI2 that came up on the Pricescope search. So it''s a fair price. It does score around 5 on the HCA as you said so there will be some light leakage. I ran those numbers through GIA''s Facetware and and it came up with get a Very Good cut rating.

But you saw it in person and you''re in a better position to judge if it is "well cut, face white, and eye clean" enough for you. Good luck.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

My thinking is that if it faces up like a 1.7 ct. stone, then you may as well pay for a 1.7 vs. a 2.0. But that''s why we need to see the measurements.

 

[abc123]

Thank you everybody for your replies.

Unfortunately I forgot to write down the measurements when I took down all the info yesterday. I remember it being right around 8 mm. I believe one of them was slightly under 8 and one was slightly over 8.

This guy did me a favor and took the diamond home with him for the weekend and I am going to his house to see it again. I''m going to be able to see it in more normal lighting this time and take it outside so hopefully I can make up my mind this time around.

Thanks again.

 

[abc123]

One more thing I forgot to add is that he said it faces up like a 1.95 because of the depth when I asked him about it yesterday.

 

[Mara]

if it's 8mm then it faces up significantly smaller than a 2c which is more like 8.2mm.

honestly a score like 5 on HCA isn't even worth a double look IMO. but the price IS lower so if you are looking for a low-cost diamond vs a well-cut stone, that's a priority thang, but keep in mind you get what you pay for. i'd much rather have a 1.75c stone for 12k that is exceptionally well cut than a small-facing dark looking 2c just to say it's a 2c.

 

[Mara]

here are two examples of stones that would most likely be better looking depending on their angles and to show price difference and spread of a well-cut stone.

1.83 H SI2
61.5% Depth
56% Table
AGS cert
tn-stk Girdle
id id Polish and Symm
7.87x7.90x4.85
$11477 This one below is almost spot on to your 2c I SI2 but the numbers are much better, AGS cert and it has the spread closer to a real 2c...for $800 more.

2.00 I SI2
61.1% Depth
58% Table
AGS cert
tn-m Girdle
id id Polish and Symm
8.11x8.19x4.97
$13460*

oh and not to sound too harsh, but that diamond that your 'trusted personal connection' is swearing by doesn't sound like a deal at all, esp after seeing what else is out there when i just looked online in the PS search engine (and seeing that 2c i just posted). i think that it's easy to get emotional while shopping, and be like 'we trust this guy' (we have done it before too), but those #'s and if he is swearing it's fab...i don't know. i'd trust my own knowledge over anyone else's anyday. get educated and then you can feel more confident!