Please help review this .962ct Radiant

[shippinguy]

I know there''s no such thing as ideal cut proportions for a Radiant but I''m looking for all the help I can get. Please share your thoughts good and bad. I really appreciate it.

.962 ct, Cut cornered square brilliant, F, VS2.
5.46x5.42x3.87
Polish and Symmetry are both Excellent.
$5k

Thanks for your input.

 

[aphisiglovessae]

Hmmm.... I''m NO expert, but maybe the total depth is a little deep?? I''m just going by a chart on emerald and radiant stones from David Atlas.

 

[valeria101]

It looks like for the price yo could easily have 1 carat of the same grades.

Without the cut grading, AGS reports don't seem to be any more interesting than any others. And I wonder if te price doesn't assume they are...

How does it look? Is there more about cut quality than posted already?

I am surprised by the 'Ex' finish grades, but not sure if these do any good to what the diamond looks like. For rounds, it seems that this isn't the case (or not much... acording to GIA's cut study and other opinions you may find throughout this forum).

In general, I expect square radinats to be smaller than the rectangular, and this one does fit the bill in that regard - it isn't terribly large.

It may be a fine and very brilliant radiant - at this point, I can't tell.

My 2c



Picking one for the sake of comparison:

How does D-VS2 sound?

Tis one turned up on a search on the database here - larger, higher grades and a hair less expensive too:

Report: GIA
Shape: Radiant
Carat: 1.02
Color: D
Clarity: VS2
Depth: 66.8
Table: 68
Girdle: M
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Good
Culet: None
Fluorescence: No
Measurements: 5.92-5.70X3.81
Length/Width: 1.04 (square)

 

[shippinguy]

One of the main themes that I keep seeing on these forums is in a Radiant the numbers really don''t mean much and the stone has to be really be seen to be judged (which all do), but this fancy shape in particular.

Its a great looking stone and completed "popped" when dropped into the setting (Ritani). Even once we took it away from the ideal lighting.

Also, a big factor on the $$$ is that this was seen at a really well respected B&M store and I''m sure I would be paying a little on reputation.

I appreciate the suggestion, we''ve come to like this shape better than the princess cut, but it hasn''t made my search very easy. I looking for a square, lenght to width 1-1.05, but they''re not easy to come by.

YET.

Thanks again for responding.

Date: 3/20/2006 8:40:55 PM
Author: valeria101


It looks like for the price yo could easily have 1 carat of the same grades.

Without the cut grading, AGS reports don''t seem to be any more interesting than any others. And I wonder if te price doesn''t assume they are...


How does it look? Is there more about cut quality than posted already?


I am surprised by the ''Ex'' finish grades, but not sure if these do any good to what the diamond looks like. For rounds, it seems that this isn''t the case (or not much... acording to GIA''s cut study and other opinions you may find throughout this forum).


In general, I expect square radinats to be smaller than the rectangular, and this one does fit the bill in that regard - it isn''t terribly large.


It may be a fine and very brilliant radiant - at this point, I can''t tell.



My 2c




Picking one for the sake of comparison:


How does D-VS2 sound?


Tis one turned up on a search on the database here - larger, higher grades and a hair less expensive too:


Report: GIA

Shape: Radiant

Carat: 1.02

Color: D

Clarity: VS2

Depth: 66.8

Table: 68

Girdle: M

Polish: Excellent

Symmetry: Good

Culet: None

Fluorescence: No

Measurements: 5.92-5.70X3.81

Length/Width: 1.04 (square)

 

[aphisiglovessae]

I agree that your eyes should always be the final decision in buying a diamond, but you only posted specs so that's all I had to go by. If you love the way it looks and you're comfortable with the price, then go for it. I'm not sure if the price is a good deal or not since I don't have a diamond calc program. Perhaps a member on here can calculate it for you? I'm thinking the prices is a little high, but you did say it's from a B&M store so that may be why.

 

[shippinguy]

Date: 3/20/2006 10:38:45 PM
Author: aphisiglovessae
I agree that your eyes should always be the final decision in buying a diamond, but you only posted specs so that''s all I had to go by. If you love the way it looks and you''re comfortable with the price, then go for it. I''m not sure if the price is a good deal or not since I don''t have a diamond calc program. Perhaps a member on here can calculate it for you? I''m thinking the prices is a little high, but you did say it''s from a B&M store so that may be why.

Aphisglovessae

I appreciate your help, I feel like I''m in a bit of a conundrum, I want to be able to see the radiant before I buy it, but know that I''m going to overpay for this stone at this particular store. I like how it looks, but can''t really justify overpaying for it, because I''m sure a PS vendor could supply something equally beautiful at a better price. I''m not frustrated by the whole process, just a little unsure how to proceed.

By the way, I checked out your website, and congrats on the upcoming nuptuals. My roommate freshman year of college graduated Governor Mifflin HS around the same time as your fiancee. We''ve been close friends ever since and now he''s my financial planner. Small world.

Thanks again for your response.

 

[coda72]

Square radiants around 1 carat seem to be in short supply right now, but just for comparison sake, here''s a couple that look good:

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamond.asp?cid=131&item=781443&aff_id=ps621

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamond.asp?cid=131&item=781437&aff_id=ps621

Both of these diamonds are very large for their weight; they''re larger than my 1.03 carat. They are also much cheaper than the one you looked at.

The only thing that bothers me is that both of them say they have no girdle and that''s just not possible. These are virtual stones, and if you''re interested in them, the vendor can call them in and run a Sarin report on them to see what the girdle really is and check to make sure the crown height is good.

 

[shippinguy]

Date: 3/21/2006 8:52:13 AM
Author: coda72
Square radiants around 1 carat seem to be in short supply right now, but just for comparison sake, here''s a couple that look good:

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamond.asp?cid=131&item=781443&aff_id=ps621

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamond.asp?cid=131&item=781437&aff_id=ps621

Both of these diamonds are very large for their weight; they''re larger than my 1.03 carat. They are also much cheaper than the one you looked at.

The only thing that bothers me is that both of them say they have no girdle and that''s just not possible. These are virtual stones, and if you''re interested in them, the vendor can call them in and run a Sarin report on them to see what the girdle really is and check to make sure the crown height is good.

Coda

Thanks for the suggestions. I think I''ll further investiage the your second suggestion. The ct weight is not the main factor, I would like it to be close to 1ct, but the dimensions of that stone are more appealing to me than the .962ct. at the beginning of this post. It is going to be set on a thin 2mm Ritani (size 4.5) band so most stones will look larger even though they are less than 1 ct.

I know that I want to use a PS vendor due to the savings on the diamond itself and local sales tax. I guess I need to find the right combination of a vendor who has a return policy of at least 14 days, (as there are no independent appraisers in my city) and one that I feel is offering the best quality stone. I figured that the savings by using a PS vendor and no sales tax will practically be the price of the wedding band.

Thanks again for your suggestions. This site has been a true eye opener.

 

[aphisiglovessae]

Date: 3/21/2006 8:43:43 AM
Author: shippinguy

I appreciate your help, I feel like I'm in a bit of a conundrum, I want to be able to see the radiant before I buy it, but know that I'm going to overpay for this stone at this particular store. I like how it looks, but can't really justify overpaying for it, because I'm sure a PS vendor could supply something equally beautiful at a better price. I'm not frustrated by the whole process, just a little unsure how to proceed.


By the way, I checked out your website, and congrats on the upcoming nuptuals. My roommate freshman year of college graduated Governor Mifflin HS around the same time as your fiancee. We've been close friends ever since and now he's my financial planner. Small world.


Thanks again for your response.

Thank you!

Wow, it IS a small world! Email me his name through my website and I'll ask if my fiance knows him.

As for finding a PS vendor that can supply you a beautiful stone, try the search tool at the top of the forum or on the home page for Pricescope. You put in the specs you're looking for and it should come up with some available stones from PS's reputable vendors.

Good luck with your search! I'll be checking for updates.