Please help pick between ACA's

[PSNEW]

I am planning on picking between these two - any help on the images would be great.

Should I be worried about the spec of, I think black, on the left pictures at 9 o'clock on the ASET. Also shown on the ideal scope at about 2 o'clock? Inclued bigger pics of this as well with arrows.

Is the hearts image okay with the one on the left?

The ASET on the right seems brighter - is that just the way the picture was taken and really they are the same?

One on the left is a bit cheaper.

Thank you so much in advance

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Both stones will be outstanding. The black dot is an inclusion showing. I'd pick solely by which one is cleanest (as in totally eye clean), and if that is equal, then I'd choose by size and price. The images are all fine. No need to overanalyze ACA images because it is usually just photography differences.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Incidentally, posts about choosing diamonds and settings go in Rocky Talky. Show Me the Bling is for showing your completed pieces of jewelry. You can click report concern on your first post and ask the moderator to move the thread to RT.

 

[PSNEW]

Incidentally, posts about choosing diamonds and settings go in Rocky Talky. Show Me the Bling is for showing your completed pieces of jewelry. You can click report concern on your first post and ask the moderator to move the thread to RT.

I must've been looking at the beautiful rings on SMTB and not realized when I clicked new post! Thanks for the input!

 

[Andelain]

Both stones will be outstanding. The black dot is an inclusion showing. I'd pick solely by which one is cleanest (as in totally eye clean), and if that is equal, then I'd choose by size and price. The images are all fine. No need to overanalyze ACA images because it is usually just photography differences.

^^^ This. If it's an ACA, it'll be awesome, period. Just pick the color and size you want, and ask if it's eye-clean. Then prepare to feast your eyes.

 

[PSNEW]

Both stones will be outstanding. The black dot is an inclusion showing. I'd pick solely by which one is cleanest (as in totally eye clean), and if that is equal, then I'd choose by size and price. The images are all fine. No need to overanalyze ACA images because it is usually just photography differences.

^^^ This. If it's an ACA, it'll be awesome, period. Just pick the color and size you want, and ask if it's eye-clean. Then prepare to feast your eyes.

Thanks for the messages! btw did request to have the thread moved.

So both are eye clean from the top but the one on the left has a crystal that is visible from the side within 10 inches. What do you guys think? Save the $300 or so or spend it to get it 100% eye clean?

Thanks!

 

[c-k]

Both stones will be outstanding. The black dot is an inclusion showing. I'd pick solely by which one is cleanest (as in totally eye clean), and if that is equal, then I'd choose by size and price. The images are all fine. No need to overanalyze ACA images because it is usually just photography differences.

^^^ This. If it's an ACA, it'll be awesome, period. Just pick the color and size you want, and ask if it's eye-clean. Then prepare to feast your eyes.

Thanks for the messages! btw did request to have the thread moved.

So both are eye clean from the top but the one on the left has a crystal that is visible from the side within 10 inches. What do you guys think? Save the $300 or so or spend it to get it 100% eye clean?

Thanks!

Both ACA stones will be beautiful....for me if a visible inclusion can be seen at 10" even from the side, I would pass and spend the extra. I learned a very long time ago, that you will soon forget how much you spent if you are happy with what you spent in on, but may regret if you didn't.

 

[PSNEW]

Both stones will be outstanding. The black dot is an inclusion showing. I'd pick solely by which one is cleanest (as in totally eye clean), and if that is equal, then I'd choose by size and price. The images are all fine. No need to overanalyze ACA images because it is usually just photography differences.

^^^ This. If it's an ACA, it'll be awesome, period. Just pick the color and size you want, and ask if it's eye-clean. Then prepare to feast your eyes.

Thanks for the messages! btw did request to have the thread moved.

So both are eye clean from the top but the one on the left has a crystal that is visible from the side within 10 inches. What do you guys think? Save the $300 or so or spend it to get it 100% eye clean?

Thanks!

Both ACA stones will be beautiful....for me if a visible inclusion can be seen at 10" even from the side, I would pass and spend the extra. I learned a very long time ago, that you will soon forget how much you spent if you are happy with what you spent in on, but may regret if you didn't.

That's a actually a great opinion. I thought that VS2's are supposed to be eye-clean unless you zoom in 10x or so?

 

[Andelain]

That's a actually a great opinion. I thought that VS2's are supposed to be eye-clean unless you zoom in 10x or so?

Eye-clean when viewed from the top.

 

[PSNEW]

That's a actually a great opinion. I thought that VS2's are supposed to be eye-clean unless you zoom in 10x or so?

Eye-clean when viewed from the top.

Thanks for clearing that up - makes a lot more sense to me now.

I think both stones are nice but if I want mind-clean I should go for the one that is $300 more.

 

[simonpro]

Deleted - Oops sorry I posted in the wrong thread

 

[PSNEW]

No problem!

 

[PSNEW]

Okay so going to make a final decision between these diamonds - I'm going to ask my GF what she thinks but would love to hear the opinions from the PS experts, noting that the setting will be a classic 6-prong solitaire:

1. 1.22 H VS2 ACA (eye-clean all around) $9,331
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3048654.htm#

2. 1.14 H VS1 ACA (eye-clean all around) $8,887
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2829750.htm#

3. 1.228 H SI1 (eye-clean all around...top from 2-4 inches and side from 4-6 inches) $9,026 after discount
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.228-h-si1-round-diamond-ags-104067957027

4. 1.17 H VS1 (eye-clean all around) $9.066
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2724958.htm# This one has similar dimenions to the 1.14 above, so for the price difference this one is likely out...unless someone sees something I do not.

The cert dates on 2. and 4. are over one year old but they assured me that they have not been sold in the past. I don't think this is an issue at all, correct?

I am having some trouble deciding so any advice would be great!

Thank you!

 

[AprilBaby]

Number one. An ACA will be spectacular! Color is great, very clean, great size!

 

[PSNEW]

Number one. An ACA will be spectacular! Color is great, very clean, great size!

Do you think there will be a noticeable difference between 1. and 2.?

Thanks AprilBaby for your reply Really does help!

 

[Christina...]

If the extra $500 doesn't break the budget then I would choose option 1 as well.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

#1 for me, too. Like someone said before, in the long run the few extra hundred won't be remembered, but there is a mental aspect as well as visual to go over 1.2 cts.

 

[PSNEW]

#1 for me, too. Like someone said before, in the long run the few extra hundred won't be remembered, but there is a mental aspect as well as visual to go over 1.2 cts.

Thanks you Christina and diamondseeker The $500 difference would either go towards her band or a better setting. This is likely the current setting I would get from WF: http://www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/6-prong-tiffany-style-solitaire-engagement-ring-582.htm

So there is a visual difference then between the two? Thanks again!

 

[diamondseeker2006]

There is a very small difference in size. They are not close enough in size that I would buy them for earrings, so I would still prefer the slightly larger stone. The solitaire setting is fine.

 

[PSNEW]

Thank you all sooo very much for all your help and input!

It is simply between 1. and 2 - both ACA's.

WF has assured me that 2. has never been sold...it seems like a great diamond but I guess slipped through the cracks over the past 1.5 years or so. My last question on the diamond is... I should not be worried about the cert date on the 1.14, correct?

Assuming this answer is that I should not worry then the question for me is if the ~400 is worth having a 1.2ct vs a 1.14ct if they will both face up pretty much the exact same.

 

[pyramid]

I would ask them if there is any graining which can be seen from the pavillion profile view only, as although graining is shown on the certificate if available face up, I read that it is only kept note of by the lab and not divulged if you can see it from a side view of the diamond. You don't want a diamond with graining.

 

[pyramid]

Just wondering, maybe diamonds which show grain are not allowed into the A Cut Above Grade. Ask Whiteflash this?

 

[c-k]

Thank you all sooo very much for all your help and input!

It is simply between 1. and 2 - both ACA's.

WF has assured me that 2. has never been sold...it seems like a great diamond but I guess slipped through the cracks over the past 1.5 years or so. My last question on the diamond is... I should not be worried about the cert date on the 1.14, correct?

Assuming this answer is that I should not worry then the question for me is if the ~400 is worth having a 1.2ct vs a 1.14ct if they will both face up pretty much the exact same.

No worry on the date on the lab report....I think you are stuck between 'Do I buy the bigger stone or not'......well, you will not go wrong with either the 1 or 2....remember, if you have a budget make sure you don't blow it for other needs, if you can stretch without harming anything else.

Ask yourself, can the extra money be used for something important, it will buy the setting. I really think once 1.14 vs 1.2 mounted in a setting will really look almost the same in size.....or flip a coin

Years down the road, you can upgrade, just a thought.

 

[pyramid]

Just wondering, maybe diamonds which show grain are not allowed into the A Cut Above Grade. Ask Whiteflash this?

See some do have graining.

 

[PSNEW]

Just wondering, maybe diamonds which show grain are not allowed into the A Cut Above Grade. Ask Whiteflash this?

See some do have graining.

Thank you for the reply - are you speaking about 1. or 2.?

From what I understand, graining may not appear on the reports but it in fact is nothing too serious when it comes to the 'sparkle' of the diamond - is this correct? If this is the case the only affect would be visible?

Are you suggesting I ask this question to help pick between the two?

Thanks!

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Thank you all sooo very much for all your help and input!

It is simply between 1. and 2 - both ACA's.

WF has assured me that 2. has never been sold...it seems like a great diamond but I guess slipped through the cracks over the past 1.5 years or so. My last question on the diamond is... I should not be worried about the cert date on the 1.14, correct?

Assuming this answer is that I should not worry then the question for me is if the ~400 is worth having a 1.2ct vs a 1.14ct if they will both face up pretty much the exact same.

They do not face up the exact same. It sounds like you don't want to spend the extra money, and that is fine. Stay within your budget if the 1.14 is the only one within your budget. It likely has not been sold because it is VS1. I prefer VS stones but many go to SI to increase size. That is why I think that the 1.2 H VS2 is the better value because I'd rather have VS2 and greater size than VS1 in a stone this size.

 

[pyramid]

Yes, I was asking the question meaning as a way for you to pick between them. I just thought maybe that was why the certificate/reports were older as maybe people had seen the visible graining in real life from a side view (if there was any there) and discarded them. May be the clarity grade though lots go for SI1s so that would leave VS2 and VS1 as they are more pricey.

 

[pyramid]

Ha, just read now that Diamondseeker2006 has thought the same about the VS grades being reason for older certs.

 

[PSNEW]

Thank you all so much. When I make my decision I will let you all know

 

[diamondseeker2006]

You can't go wrong with any of these, seriously! They will all be gorgeous!