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davey99

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So I could really use some help here. My girlfriend of six years and I are ready to make things official. However, for certain reasons we need to be engaged in the next two months - not really flexible here. Therefore, I need to get a ring ordered much sooner than later.

I have been shopping all around town with her and we have come to the conclusion that she likes a more antique style ring with pave (think the Tiffany Legacy). She isn''t as concerned with the center stone but would prefer something along the lines of a cushion or ascher. My budget is in the $15-20K range.

I could really use some feedback on a couple of questions.

1. There is a beautiful ring on an estate jewelry website that has a photo of a ring that I know she would love. I will try to attach a photo as well.

The description of the ring :"The center stone is a cushion cut diamond that weighs 2.48 carats and is EGL certified. The color of the stone is I and the clarity is SI1. The center stone is enhanced by approximately 0.75ct of small old mine cut diamonds around it. The color of the side diamonds is G and the clarity is VS1. The ring features beautiful open work gallery. The ring is size 7 1/4, but can be resized. " Price = $18,500

She likes the idea of having a real antique but I don''t want to compromise quality too much in order to make that happen.

How sketchy is it to buy an EGL certified ring? Is the price too good to be true here? I would actually go to the store to make sure I liked the ring but it is about five hours away and I would assume save myself the trip if people think something is up.

Other questions -

So my girlfriend is not too into name brands but like any girl, would love something from Tiffany or Harry Winston. If I was going to purchase a ring for $20K, what kind of stone could this get me from these two outfitters? Again, I could drive to these places to actually see the stones but want to know what I am getting myself into.

In looking in some local stores, I have found a couple of designers that are lesser known (Mark Patterson) and seemingly much cheaper than the previously mentioned - partly because the settings are not hand made. I could get the ring for under $3K and save the rest for the stone. Anyone have any thoughts here on how important it is to have something hand made versus (whatever non-hand made is called)? Anyone know of any other designers that would fall into this category of having nice settings similar to the Legacy for reasonable prices.

Finally, any opinions between ascher versus cushion cut?

Okay - if you are still reading, thank you so much. As you can tell, I am a very nervous guy these days trying not to screw up on a big purchase. Thanks in advance.

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You can get a Daniel K for that price... and I think maybe a tiffany or HW.

BUT if it were me I'd spend about $16K to 17K to get the nicest biggest cushion I could from Mark and ERD (not egl certified for that kind of money) and have Quest or GOG make me a legacy inspired setting. about 3-4K for the setting... and it will be gorgeous.

Here is GOG's legacy inspired ring (set with an old mine cut diamond) http://goodoldgold.com/images/settings/gallery/Slide3-800.jpg
 
I think you can probably get about a 1 carat to 1.5 carat for the price at Tiffany, HW, or Daniel K. Personally I'd rather have a bigger diamond. Asschers are lovely... but well... I think you can get a bigger cushion for the same budget. Plus... you really have to love awsschers to buy one. Do a search for Asschers in the forums.

Aslo.. if you want Handmade... Beaudry is a big expensive designer of antique handmade settings. One of the jewelers that used to work under him has set out on her own... her Name is Maytal other PSers have used her and the results have been stunning... you could get the same quality as a handmade designer ring for half the price with her. And hs can do a legacy inspired piece with no problem.
 
Thanks for the response. The Daniel K''s that I looked at were in the $8-10K range which seemed a little high for just a setting. I think the fact that it was hand-made would be lost on her and probably not worth the extra price if that could be applied to a stone instead.

I would hope to get a stone that was at least 1.5carats as well and remain in budget.

Have you heard anything on Mark Patterson? The exact ring is not posted in his website so there are no pictures to show.
 
The carat size at Tiffany is what I figured. I think you are right about going for a lesser known brand and bigger stone. She doesn''t seem to have much a preference between the ascher and cushion so I guess I will just see where I can find the better stone/deal.

I will definitely check out the designer you mentioned. Thanks again
 
No I don''t think I have... but do a search on here for him... others might have. Ask for cushion specs before you go looking about. Moremoremore (that''s her name) has the NICEST cuhsions I have ever seen (bought from Mark at Engagement Rings Direct) do a search for her and you''ll see it.

Also do a search for the thread "Admit it" and you''ll see some amazing rocks to help you decide. There are legacies on there too.
 
When my BF and I were seeking an antique stone, we found that they were all certified by EGL. Now, you can definitely get a modern cushion or asscher that is certified by GIA. But, we really wanted an antique stone (I find them so romantic, unique and charming), so I had my jeweler check out how accurate the EGL USA certs were, and we found them to be pretty accurate. Our budget was about the same, so I''ll tell you what we did. We aimed to find an approx 2 carat center stone (lower color because they were more antique and fit in our budget - everything seemed to be I-J color range, which was fine with me). We didn''t go for an antique setting, though. I really like some of the rings that I saw on antiqueengagementrings.com and http://www.estatediamondjewelry.com/

Now, I have no problem with an EGL USA cert, but I wouldn''t buy (or I''d expect a VERY steep discount) for another EGL cert. This is especially true for antique stones, which like I said seem to have EGL certs in my experience. The hunt for the perfect cushion seems to be very challenging (and depends on the look that you are going for - antique, modern, open/closed culet, organized/scattered facets), so if you are crunched for time, I would think finding a good asscher might be easier, but I''m sure the asscher owners out there can tell you more about that. Good luck!
 
Hi,

Never heard of Mark Patterson (but that doesn''t mean much, I don''t know any name designers).

But, have you looked here: http://www.nelsonrarities.com/ring2006.html

Also, think about buying a stone at Engagement Rings Direct (Mark is good at Cushions I hear) in the diamond district, or Good Old Gold out on Long Island.

Then, maybe look here for a setting: http://faycullen.com/

If you want the best setting in the world, try http://artofplatinum.com/ also in diamond district. But he''s so good, he may be booked up and unable to get it done by your deadline.

Much of the jewlery/diamond industry is on vacation until July 17, compounding things for you.

Good luck.

Best,
LizzyD
 
Oh, I know another place that has gorgeous antique rings (and I think some people here have bought from them) - www.singlestone.com
 
Aggh!

I just found out about this diamond holiday today. Now I am really pushing the deadlines on things!
 
Hi Davey99 ~
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Welcome to Pricescope!
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If you are looking for cushions or asschers ... May I suggest Good Old Gold.
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Here is just one beautiful
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cushion, it''s a 1.55 ct G SI1.
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Bank wire price: $9,647.82 http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/2171/

Have a great day!
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I''ve heard of Mark Patterson and he does beautiful well made peices. I wouldn''t hesitate on a setting by him if there is one you/she likes. I would also suggest checking out www.pearlmansjewelers.com for a ton of designer settings to look at. He carries all the big name as well as Ritani and other more affordable designers. He doesn''t list his stones but can get whatever you want. I''d skip Tiffany''s and HW and get the biggest stone you can in a really nice setting for the $$.
 
or this one ... so many to choose from ...

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