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diamond_hunter

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Hello,

I found a diamond that I'm very close to pulling the trigger on. The diamond is on hold for me, but before I commit, I'd like to get a few opinions on it. I'm concerned with the medium blue fluorescence but its a G color, so I'm also thinking maybe its a good thing. Regardless, I'd like to get a general opinion on the diamond. The proportions look good and the HCA score was great.

Attached is the image from the vendor and clarity plot. Vendor says it is eye clean, even though the magnified image shows the inclusions easily. I'm not sure what the magnification level was, at a minimum I think its 10x.

Here are the specs

2.03
G
SI1

Table: 55%
Depth: 62%
Crown Angle: 35
Pavillon Angle: 40.6
Fluorescence: Medium Blue


Thanks!

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The fluorescence would not bother me at all. But that clarity plot would, esp in an SI1. Who graded that stone? What lab?
 
That's a GIA graded diamond, graded triple-ex. Grade setting clarity characteristic is crystal, others mentioned are feather, then needle (and the comments note pinpoints and internal graining not shown). Proportions are within AGS0 specs. Are you buying from a PS vendor? If so, there is a 30-day inspection period, so you could have a look for yourself to see if the inclusions are visible to you.



Edited to add some additional info and question to OP.
 
IMHO, this is a beautiful stone if GIA triple ex. All of the numbers work, the inclusion doesn't bother me cause I know this is a close-up shot, in real life they are too tiny to see. Here are my studs, both are SI1 and have a lot of inclusions. Do I see the inclusion? No, if I really try? Yes. But, in general, they are eye clean. I dont mind at all.
Picture of SI1 with lots of inclusion for you to see
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diamond_hunter|1415034880|3776791 said:
Hello,

I found a diamond that I'm very close to pulling the trigger on. The diamond is on hold for me, but before I commit, I'd like to get a few opinions on it. I'm concerned with the medium blue fluorescence but its a G color, so I'm also thinking maybe its a good thing. Regardless, I'd like to get a general opinion on the diamond. The proportions look good and the HCA score was great.

Attached is the image from the vendor and clarity plot. Vendor says it is eye clean, even though the magnified image shows the inclusions easily. I'm not sure what the magnification level was, at a minimum I think its 10x.

Here are the specs

2.03
G
SI1

Table: 55%
Depth: 62%
Crown Angle: 35
Pavillon Angle: 40.6
Fluorescence: Medium Blue


Thanks!

With a 40.6 pavilion angle paired with a 35 crown, this has the potential to be a lively and wonderful looking diamond.

However, GIA does love their rounding, so it depends on how far below 40.6 the stone goes on the shallower pavilion measurements that average out to 40.6. The proof of this pudding will be in YOUR eye. If you bring it in and love it, keep it. If you bring it in and part of the diamond is nice and bright and part is not, then send it back.

Your main concern, the medium fluorescence should not affect the beauty of your diamond in any manner, and will look cool at the disco. (Do they even have those any more?)

Wink
 
Thank you everyone for your feedback.

Yes it is GIA certified and it is triple excellent.

I'm a bit relived with your comments about the medium fluorescence. The clarity plot was also concerning to me because of the inclusion near the center, but you guys do bring up good points that this is a magnified view so it may not even matter.

Additional commentary is always appreciated. Thank you all..
 
leyhuong|1415036929|3776804 said:
IMHO, this is a beautiful stone if GIA triple ex. All of the numbers work, the inclusion doesn't bother me cause I know this is a close-up shot, in real life they are too tiny to see. Here are my studs, both are SI1 and have a lot of inclusions. Do I see the inclusion? No, if I really try? Yes. But, in general, they are eye clean. I dont mind at all.
Picture of SI1 with lots of inclusion for you to see
a-1024141140f.jpga-1024141140d.jpg


Thank you for this reference. What color is yours? What do you think about the medium fluorescence in a G color diamond?
 
diamond_hunter|1415057091|3777041 said:
What do you think about the medium fluorescence in a G color diamond?

Nothing to worry about, at all (assuming you have spoken to the vendor about the minuscule possibility of haze/oily attributes).

I prefer fluor in the stones that I purchase, even those in the DEF colorless range.

Don't let the fluorescence deter you!
 
drk14|1415036690|3776802 said:
That's a GIA graded diamond, graded triple-ex. Grade setting clarity characteristic is crystal, others mentioned are feather, then needle (and the comments note pinpoints and internal graining not shown). Proportions are within AGS0 specs. Are you buying from a PS vendor? If so, there is a 30-day inspection period, so you could have a look for yourself to see if the inclusions are visible to you.



Edited to add some additional info and question to OP.


How do I know who is on the PS vendor list?
 
diamond_hunter|1415057615|3777052 said:
drk14|1415036690|3776802 said:
That's a GIA graded diamond, graded triple-ex. Grade setting clarity characteristic is crystal, others mentioned are feather, then needle (and the comments note pinpoints and internal graining not shown). Proportions are within AGS0 specs. Are you buying from a PS vendor? If so, there is a 30-day inspection period, so you could have a look for yourself to see if the inclusions are visible to you.



Edited to add some additional info and question to OP.


How do I know who is on the PS vendor list?

https://www.pricescope.com/featured-sponsors
 
Hi Guys,

I asked the vendor for idealscope images and am waiting for it. In the meantime, I found another diamond that looks very promising. This time I have the scope images. See below.

2.01
H
SI1 (confirmed eye clean)
Triple excellent cut

Based on the clarity plot and the scope images, here are my concerns:

1. The inclusion says "indented natural" and it looks to be external to the surface. How can it be eye clean if its on the surface? And how bad is indented natural inclusions?

2. Based on the diamond image and the scope images, it 3 o'clock arrow looks to be really light and its not as black or dark as the others. Why is that? Is this a problem? Could it just be the lighting in the room where these photos were taken?

3. The ASET image looks to have a lot of green. Is that a problem?

I would like to get the general input/feedback from folks here. It looks beautiful, but I do have my concerns. BTW, the HCA score is <2 (1.4 to be exact).

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600_ir241167-officelight_black-01.jpg

600_ir241167-idealscope-01.jpg
 
And here is the ASET image. Another concern is that why is there so much white and green around the edges of this image? Is there anything to be concerned about here?

600_ir241167-aset_black__fancy_-01.jpg
 
Any feedback from anyone?
 
Personally I would prefer the G with blue Fl.

Compare the H ASET to this superior 2.15 H SI1 ...H & A on GOG

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/12600/

and this one:
2.05 H & A;
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/12579/

I really don't get the big deal on clarity either as long as it doesn't affect the performance of the stone. As my mother-in-law used to say..."Won't be noticed on a galloping horse" ...lol and in this case even if you are standing still no one will notice either...they are so infintesimally (sp?) small.

Will be interesting to see the G stone's ASET.

Here's a recent thread discussing flourescence:
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/trying-to-select-my-dream-3-carat-diamond.207527/page-2#post-3777454#p3777454']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/trying-to-select-my-dream-3-carat-diamond.207527/page-2#post-3777454#p3777454[/URL]

Good luck with your search.
 
ariel144|1415143016|3777545 said:
Personally I would prefer the G with blue Fl.

Compare the H ASET to this superior 2.15 H SI1 ...H & A on GOG

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/12600/

and this one:
2.05 H & A;
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/12579/

I really don't get the big deal on clarity either as long as it doesn't affect the performance of the stone. As my mother-in-law used to say..."Won't be noticed on a galloping horse" ...lol and in this case even if you are standing still no one will notice either...they are so infintesimally (sp?) small.

Will be interesting to see the G stone's ASET.

Here's a recent thread discussing flourescence:
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/trying-to-select-my-dream-3-carat-diamond.207527/page-2#post-3777454#p3777454']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/trying-to-select-my-dream-3-carat-diamond.207527/page-2#post-3777454#p3777454[/URL]

Good luck with your search.


Thanks Ariel. I'm still waiting for the vendor to send me the G stone's scope images. What do you think about the idealscope and ASET images of the second stone? I compared it with the GOG links you sent over and it looks comparable. Would like your opinion. Great, Good, bad, okay, stay away?



Thanks
 
The 2.01 H SI1 looks good. Likely not to hearts and arrows level cut, but nice.
 
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