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Hello everyone! My diamond came in and I think it’s a very beautiful stone and great size ! The only thing that bothers me if the stone have obstruction issues or not due to pav of 40.6. I tried to compare it to ACA diamond I have and they behave identical,when I bring them closer or father apart. What’s the way to identify if obstruction is an issue ? In what light situation it will be more possible ? 45CDCD67-3776-4D6D-8D03-1ED4DC475238.jpegD0D2FB30-3C31-4705-8BEB-820002959E88.jpeg247A4040-4363-42DB-8A1D-3572F0DBCCFF.jpeg9A324964-DF50-4AE2-8ADB-288F3C120814.jpeg94FA0608-49D4-4A7C-B8E3-67EE03271B64.jpegAlso here is the Gia certificate and all diamond analysis I have for the stone ! I just need to make sure it’s a decent stone and I didn’t Waste 8000$:???: I am still in return period https://www.adiamor.com/Diamonds/1....1&b=8.871&utm_source=rarecarat&utm_medium=cpc 72294DE0-7746-438D-A366-C029D4EFD762.jpeg1FE62280-DEAD-41FC-9336-49D629084194.jpeg26C79061-83DD-400E-B1B2-977F2209C511.jpeg
 

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Oh WOW, it is absolutely STUNNING! :-o :love:
 
I think it looks stunning!
At the end of the day I would trust your eyes. Especially since you have ACAs to compare to.
 
I think it looks great, and I also understand your concern when looking at the ASET.
Looks like a very nice "I", lovely high crown.
Can you use a loupe to check if you can see some painting?
 
Definitely a stunner!
 
Stephan said:
I think it looks great, and I also understand your concern when looking at the ASET.
Looks like a very nice "I", lovely high crown.
Can you use a loupe to check if you can see some painting?
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The color is stunning ! Very white for being “I” I can def try to magnify and see but I think I don’t know what to look for ? How does painting should look like ? Can you notice it on ASET image ?
 
To my eye, there is no obvious painting.
GIA numbers are rounded, the pavilion shows 40.6 but a 43% depth, so I think the pavilion angle is at least 40.6.
Your pictures of the diamond look great, so perhaps the amount of blue in the ASET is due to poor usage of the ASET scope?
I'm not an expert of ASET and photography, so I'm curious to see what experts will answer.
 
Stephan said:
To my eye, there is no obvious painting.
GIA numbers are rounded, the pavilion shows 40.6 but a 43% depth, so I think the pavilion angle is at least 40.6.
Your pictures of the diamond look great, so perhaps the amount of blue in the ASET is due to poor usage of the ASET scope?
I'm not an expert of ASET and photography, so I'm curious to see what experts will answer.
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Thabk you for your opinion ! Yeah I wish GIA would put real numbers instead of rounding! They would make our life so much easier without guessing and trying to figure out what they mean . Hope more expert will chime in and help me out to make up my mind .so I can sleep again :cool2:
 
Do you love it?


If you are concerned about price take a look at https://www.rarecarat.com/c/5a311ed5-30e9-4a64-80ad-98afb285c9b3


I have plugged in basic grades of your diamond. Take at look at other prices and also on far right column the "deal" grade given to each. You can also type in your GIA number report and it can be evaluated for good deal or not.

However I would take the "deal" grades with a pinch of salt, no idea how reliable they are!!
 
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Do you love it?


If you are concerned about price take a look at https://www.rarecarat.com/c/5a311ed5-30e9-4a64-80ad-98afb285c9b3


I have plugged in basic grades of your diamond. Take at look at other prices and also on far right column the "deal" grade given to each. You can also type in your GIA number report and it can be evaluated for good deal or not.

However I would take the "deal" grades with a pinch of salt, no idea how reliable they are!!
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I just checked the stone which they show as “deal” they all were very deep around 63.5 and angles are all other the place . I found similar diamonds on blue Nile to mine with they same parameters were all over 9-10-11thousands. For that money I would then better go with aca which will be around 11-12 thousands. But I don’t know if that worth spending extra 3 thousands on properties which almost impossible to detect.
 
yeah as I suspected their deal grade isn't great. At least it gives an idea of range of prices.

It sounds like you are very happy with your diamond. Would YOU be happier with an ACA? Honestly from YOUR posts it seems like you might be unhappy spending $3000 extra for an ACA as you don't see that the difference is worth it. I think you should use start enjoying your ring, it is stunning after all.
 
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:love:Love this stone.
 
Matilda said:
yeah as I suspected their deal grade isn't great. At least it gives an idea of range of prices.

It sounds like you are very happy with your diamond. Would YOU be happier with an ACA? Honestly from YOUR posts it seems like you might be unhappy spending $3000 extra for an ACA as you don't see that the difference is worth it. I think you should use start enjoying your ring, it is stunning after all.
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it’s a beautiful stone with great clarity ! I love that it’s a very clean crystal without all those additional clouds -grain-pinpoints ,no fluorescence so at least I shouldn’t worry about issues like haziness or transparency of the stone :Up_to_something2: so all I have left is to figure out these angles :eek2: maybe my eyes don’t see anything . I don’t know . I live in Houston ,so I was thinking to stop by whiteflash showroom and pay them to avaluate the stone /do sarin report . I chated with one of representatives and they say they don’t do this kind of services :(((
 
I am open to any other opinions ! Please , share some thoughts who have more experience than me !!!:rolleyes2:
 
It should be possible to see in real life what the ASET is showing, but how!
I find it significant that the IS does not pick the painting either. It must take shadowing this diamond in a very peculiar way to get the ASET pattern.

Obviously this isn't easy, so it cannot matter all that much.

Just a thought
 
AV_ said:
It should be possible to see in real life what the ASET is showing, but how!
I find it significant that the IS does not pick the painting either. It must take shadowing this diamond in a very peculiar way to get the ASET pattern.

Obviously this isn't easy, so it cannot matter all that much.

Just a thought
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I see what you are saying ! So In your opinion , even if the diamond can have some obstruction, it’s super minimal which most of the stones will have any way ? Thank you !!
 
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No idea how common these proportions are.

Yes, I find that the ASET detail is too subtle to matter.
 
AV_ said:
No idea how common these proportions are.

Yes, I find that the ASET detail is too subtle to matter.
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Thank you ! So maybe then I am keeping the stone !:))and start to enjoy it and not overthink!:angryfire:
 
Bumping up to hear more opinions :rolleyes2::rolleyes2::rolleyes2:
 
Golden_bird said:
start to enjoy it and not overthink!
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All I ever do is overthink...

[not joking - it is my beloved job to die for / or of ,) ]

- so I kept thinking about your diamond since yesterday, because I realized that this, in fact, may well be my kind of ideal: in 'real life' I prefer diamonds to be 'flashy' [with more blue on ASET, at the high end of angles in the respective bracket] up to a respectable size, to say tthe least. I am starting to wonder if it is this love of contrast (flash) that makes me a step cut fan.

Overthinking, of course!
 
AV_ said:
All I ever do is overthink...

[not joking - it is my beloved job to die for / or of ,) ]

- so I kept thinking about your diamond since yesterday, because I realized that this, in fact, may well be my kind of ideal: in 'real life' I prefer diamonds to be 'flashy' [with more blue on ASET, at the high end of angles in the respective bracket] up to a respectable size, to say tthe least. I am starting to wonder if it is this love of contrast (flash) that makes me a step cut fan.

Overthinking, of course!
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Uh .. they say knowledge is the power ,but sometimes it steals your joy !before I didn’t know much about diamonds I was fascinated by the nature of it , properties ,how they from ugly ducklings become beautiful swans . Now all see the math and numbers :confused2: my eyes see beautiful stone ,nothing different from the ACA stone I have ,checked in all possible and imossible locations .they behave identical ! I cannot convince myself spend extra 3000$ for a different number of angle in report but at the same time I am thinking what if it’s not a smart decision. I didn’t see much of step cuts on real life , so they do show little bit more blue(darkening ) ? And tell me your final thought on my stone :rolleyes2:
 
Still no answer for the ASET, but by the pictures you can tell this diamond is cut with art.
It's really gorgeous, you can't see any difference and it's $3,000 cheaper than ACA.
High crown, nice I color, good clarity, I really think it's a keeper.
Oh, and GIA 3 EX.
And I still remember my AGS I that had a GIA J report.
Your diamond is very nice, I would wear it proudly.
 
I really think they didn't use the ASET scope correctly.
 
Analysis paralysis!!!! Let go of what you cannot control..... the stone is 99.9999 % perfect you can’t make it 100% unless you spend more. If you spend more it seems you will be unhappy. So please please start focusing on what you can control.... wearing this drop dead gorgeous diamond with pride!!
 
Stephan said:
Still no answer for the ASET, but by the pictures you can tell this diamond is cut with art.
It's really gorgeous, you can't see any difference and it's $3,000 cheaper than ACA.
High crown, nice I color, good clarity, I really think it's a keeper.
Oh, and GIA 3 EX.
And I still remember my AGS I that had a GIA J report.
Your diamond is very nice, I would wear it proudly.
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Thank you Stephan for reassurance ! Maybe I will hurt feelings of ppl who love J stones , I don’t :???: ! It quiet white from top ,but obvious yellow tint from the side bothers me in them :(( that’s also the reason I prefer GIA stones cause they little bit stricter on color or you have to go up in color for AGS stones but it drives the prices dramatically . Yeah I have been over analyzing I guess . I searched threads with ppl stones with proportions like 35/48 which are considers safer for GIA stones , and lots of ideal scope look very bad with leakage and so on ,so even though mine is 40.6 angle ,it doesn’t show any leakage and I guess cut pretty tight :roll
 
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