please help me to look at these two diamonds

[cleverworm]

1st:

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/F-SI2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1213292.asp


2nd:

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/J-SI2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1257641.asp


1213292: Also a brilliant stone, F color, inclusion is noticable under loupe but not to naked eye, inclusion could have prong set over it, the size difference between this and 1257641 is noticeable

1257641: Brilliant stone, J color so it has a slight bit of warmth, feather is on the table but is transparent to the naked eye and only slightly visible with the loupe


1257641 is $250 less than 1213292, both of them are in $3000-3500 range.

 

[cleverworm]

ideascope pictures:

1213292

 

[cleverworm]

1257641


The setting I am thinking is

http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/pave/18k-White-Gold-2-2mm-Pave-Set-Diamond-Ring.html

Thanks!

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 10/9/2009 1:13:25 AM
Author:cleverworm
1st:

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/F-SI2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1213292.asp


2nd:

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/J-SI2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1257641.asp


1213292: Also a brilliant stone, F color, inclusion is noticable under loupe but not to naked eye, inclusion could have prong set over it, the size difference between this and 1257641 is noticeable

1257641: Brilliant stone, J color so it has a slight bit of warmth, feather is on the table but is transparent to the naked eye and only slightly visible with the loupe


1257641 is $250 less than 1213292, both of them are in $3000-3500 range.

Hi clever worm

I will just fix your links then take a look...

First looks great, check with JA it is eyeclean and that the cavity isn't potentially troublesome, it isn't always the case but best to check.

Second looks good to, check with the gemologist concerning the feather whether it is visible and if it hits a vulnerable area ( can't tell from the plotting diagram).

So in a nutshell, check both are eyeclean and get more info on those inclusions.

 

[stone-cold11]

Ditto lorelei.

 

[cleverworm]

Thanks,


The gemologist review are:

1213292: Also a brilliant stone, F color, inclusion is noticable under loupe but not to naked eye, inclusion could have prong set over it, the size difference between this and 1257641 is noticeable



1257641: Brilliant stone, J color so it has a slight bit of warmth, feather is on the table but is transparent to the naked eye and only slightly visible with the loupe




I think both of them are eye-clean. I like the size of No2, but has a little bit concern of the "I" color. The side stones in the setting are G-H color, I am wondering a I central stone might look yellow in this setting. And also No 2 is $250 lower than No 1. i am not sure whether I should go for the F color in No1 or save this $250 and take the larger size in N0 2.

 

[stone-cold11]

Up to 2 color grades off is acceptable for side stones to main stone. So I do not see a problem there. :p

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 10/9/2009 8:52:48 PM
Author: cleverworm
Thanks,


The gemologist review are:

1213292: Also a brilliant stone, F color, inclusion is noticable under loupe but not to naked eye, inclusion could have prong set over it, the size difference between this and 1257641 is noticeable



1257641: Brilliant stone, J color so it has a slight bit of warmth, feather is on the table but is transparent to the naked eye and only slightly visible with the loupe




I think both of them are eye-clean. I like the size of No2, but has a little bit concern of the ''I'' color. The side stones in the setting are G-H color, I am wondering a I central stone might look yellow in this setting. And also No 2 is $250 lower than No 1. i am not sure whether I should go for the F color in No1 or save this $250 and take the larger size in N0 2.

You are fine, as SC says standard advice is side and centre stones to be within 2 colour grades.

 

[cleverworm]

Sorry, the 2nd is "J" but not "I", so has 3-4 grade difference from G and H.

Is it still ok?

And also the HCA of No1 is

Light Return Fire Scintillation Spread or diameter for weight Total Visual Performance
Excellent Excellent Excellent Very Good 0.9 - Excellent within TIC range

No2:

Light Return Fire Scintillation Spread or diameter for weight Total Visual Performance
Excellent excellent very good very good 1.5 - Excellent within TIC range

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 10/11/2009 12:16:04 AM
Author: cleverworm
Sorry, the 2nd is ''J'' but not ''I'', so has 3-4 grade difference from G and H. Ask James Allen how this particular diamond would look with the accent diamonds. Could still be ok yes.

Is it still ok?

And also the HCA of No1 is

Light Return Fire Scintillation Spread or diameter for weight Total Visual Performance
Excellent Excellent Excellent Very Good 0.9 - Excellent within TIC range

No2:

Light Return Fire Scintillation Spread or diameter for weight Total Visual Performance
Excellent excellent very good very good 1.5 - Excellent within TIC range

The HCA is used for rejection not selection, we have images which trump the HCA and prove the diamonds are well cut.