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I am going to make the first diamond ering purchase in my life. I have finished reading the material on this page, but with no experience I am not really confident in choosing anything. Since people around here enjoy helping others, may I seek your help?

I have a all-inclusive budget of $13000. My requirements are simple - something 1-1.5carat, round, E-F colour, eyeclean VS1-VS2. I am looking for something high quality, so I think I should limit myself to AGS0 as well?

Any suggestion?
 
Welcome to Pricescope
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Your requirements sound fine, you could lower your colour and clarity a bit if you wished and still have a very white, clean diamond, but this is a personal preference.

I have posted some great diamonds below that might work for you, the first 2 are the superb Infinity diamonds for you to see. The last is the brand A Cut Above from Whiteflash, I hope they will give you something to start with.


http://www.craftedbyinfinity.com/index.php?pid=63&lang=eng&sid[]=244&src=loupe

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http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-231902.htm

This diamond from WF I lowered the colour to a G and the clarity to an SI1 to broaden the options a bit as I said above - a suggestion only - you could ask them if you were interested in this diamond if it is eyeclean, as there is a chance by looking at the diamond, that if the inclusion is visible, it could be covered by a prong. The price of the last diamond comes to around $13500 if paying by a bank wire transer I think.

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/3843/ This might be worth a look.

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/G-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1060583.asp?b=16&a=12&c=77&cid=131

And this one, again it might be nearer the 13k mark with bank wire discount.
 
Thanks Lorelei for the quick response.

Sorry for the confusion, but my budget has to cover setting, shipping (international), etc. So I guess that I can only afford $11000-$12000 for the stone. And I do want to stay within E-F, VS1-VS2.

What do you, or other experts, think about these?

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/2742/
http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-540910.htm#
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/F-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1111644.asp?b=16&a=12&c=77&cid=131
 
Date: 12/10/2007 1:43:21 PM
Author: sneijder
Thanks Lorelei for the quick response.

Sorry for the confusion, but my budget has to cover setting, shipping (international), etc. So I guess that I can only afford $11000-$12000 for the stone. And I do want to stay within E-F, VS1-VS2.

What do you, or other experts, think about these?

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/2742/
http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-540910.htm#
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/F-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1111644.asp?b=16&a=12&c=77&cid=131
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Hi Sneijder!

Unfortunately, the Whiteflash diamond is gone ... sold maybe to you??
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Given that this one is not available, I ran the numbers on the other ones and the James Allen stone 1.41 F VS2 is an AGS O stone and rated higher at 1.2 on the Holloway Cut Advisor ... The 1.36 E VS2 Good Old Gold stone rated 2.1 on the Holloway Cut Advisor. It is suggested that anything below 2 is Excellent, however, given that the price is right and you love the stone & its performance, stones scoring over 2 can also be Very Good. You can learn more about this and your interpretation of the results via the Cut Advisor tool on Pricescope.

Given that the James Allen one is bigger
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and rates "better", cut wise, I would recommend this one, however, this being said, based on the pics of the diamond provided on both sites, the James Allen one looks as though it may have inclusions that are not entirely "eye clean". I would check with the vendor to see if any of those inclusions are really visible. If so, the other diamond may be your choice.

Or maybe, better yet, another Whiteflash A Cut Above diamond, with your specs might be available in your price range -- How about this one? It is 1.268 carats, A Cut Above, F, VS1 = $11,975??
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It rates 1.8 on the HCA. Looks like a great choice!

Let us know what you decide! Good luck!
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Thanks Sparkalicious. It is not me who bought the whiteflash one
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, but congratulations to the buyer
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The white flash one looks good. Will they upload more details later (e.g. the idealscope image)? Since I am not living in the states I don''t really want to make distance call to ask for every stone I am considering.

And just find this one on GOG, looks good too -

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/3638/

Just not sure whether the stone is eyeclean...
 
Date: 12/11/2007 7:10:46 AM
Author: sneijder
Thanks Sparkalicious. It is not me who bought the whiteflash one
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, but congratulations to the buyer
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The white flash one looks good. Will they upload more details later (e.g. the idealscope image)? Since I am not living in the states I don't really want to make distance call to ask for every stone I am considering.

And just find this one on GOG, looks good too -

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/3638/

Just not sure whether the stone is eyeclean...
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Yep the one you posted from GOG looks good, just check with them that it is eyeclean, I should think it is. The Whiteflash ACA would be an easy choice, with that brand being consistently beautiful, you can pretty much bet it is a very safe choice and that the IS image would be excellent as this brand is the cream of the crop for WF diamonds.
 
WF, JA and GOG generally respond quite well to emails (although some do get lost in cyberspace). Since you are across the pond, try emailing the sales crew for more information.

Since stones are flying off the shelves during the busy Xmas shopping season, please ask the vendor to hold the stone for you while you think about it. They will hold it for at least a day or two at no cost to you. This will prevent the stone from being sold to someone else while you are asking for advice here.
 
Date: 12/11/2007 7:10:46 AM
Author: sneijder
Thanks Sparkalicious. It is not me who bought the whiteflash one
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, but congratulations to the buyer
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The white flash one looks good. Will they upload more details later (e.g. the idealscope image)? Since I am not living in the states I don''t really want to make distance call to ask for every stone I am considering.

And just find this one on GOG, looks good too -

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/3638/

Just not sure whether the stone is eyeclean...
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Hi sneijder,

That GOG stone looks fine, and at VS2, the probability is very high that it''s eyeclean. But, there''s only one way to know for sure, give them a call.
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Also, on the WF stone, yes, they''ll be getting more info up. It''s new and that''s the reason everything isn''t on there yet.

I would put any stones on reserve that you are considering, while you contemplate. That way they won''t get sold out from under you.
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Date: 12/11/2007 7:10:46 AM
Author: sneijder
Thanks Sparkalicious. It is not me who bought the whiteflash one
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, but congratulations to the buyer
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The white flash one looks good. Will they upload more details later (e.g. the idealscope image)? Since I am not living in the states I don''t really want to make distance call to ask for every stone I am considering.


And just find this one on GOG, looks good too -


http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/3638/


Just not sure whether the stone is eyeclean...
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Whiteflash is very good about working over e-mail. I''ve been corresponding with them over several stones. If the diamond you like isn''t in-house, they will call to make sure it''s eye-clean, then bring it in to inspect it. They will send you pics, the certificate, a sarin report, and an idealscope image. I highly recommend them.
 
Date: 12/11/2007 7:48:18 AM
Author: Chrono
WF, JA and GOG generally respond quite well to emails (although some do get lost in cyberspace). Since you are across the pond, try emailing the sales crew for more information.

Since stones are flying off the shelves during the busy Xmas shopping season, please ask the vendor to hold the stone for you while you think about it. They will hold it for at least a day or two at no cost to you. This will prevent the stone from being sold to someone else while you are asking for advice here.
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I second that, this time of year diamonds are being snatched up, so personally if you are seriously interested in a diamond, I would call the vendor by phone and ask for a reserve, in case your choice gets grabbed! This would just make it easier with the large volume of emails they will be getting.
 
I was typing while others were, so I repeated a bit.
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Both are top notch diamonds and I am sure you would be delighted with either. So it leaves you to decide what you value more...

An ACA 1.28 F VS1 with an AGS0 report

The H&A GOG diamond which is slightly heavier at 1.33, E VS2 with a GIA report.

Both have superb cuts, but I don't believe you can go wrong with either here. Both are eligible for lifetime trade up if that might ever be a consideration.
 
Date: 12/11/2007 9:23:08 AM
Author: Lorelei
Both are top notch diamonds and I am sure you would be delighted with either. So it leaves you to decide what you value more...

An ACA 1.28 F VS1 with an AGS0 report

The H&A GOG diamond which is slightly heavier at 1.33, E VS2 with a GIA report.

Both have superb cuts, but I don''t believe you can go wrong with either here. Both are eligible for lifetime trade up if that might ever be a consideration.
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Yep.

Flip a coin?
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Date: 12/11/2007 9:57:29 AM
Author: Ellen


Date: 12/11/2007 9:23:08 AM
Author: Lorelei
Both are top notch diamonds and I am sure you would be delighted with either. So it leaves you to decide what you value more...

An ACA 1.28 F VS1 with an AGS0 report

The H&A GOG diamond which is slightly heavier at 1.33, E VS2 with a GIA report.

Both have superb cuts, but I don't believe you can go wrong with either here. Both are eligible for lifetime trade up if that might ever be a consideration.
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Yep.

Flip a coin?
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Date: 12/11/2007 12:44:19 PM
Author: sneijder
Is there a three sided coin? Because I have not given up the one on Jamesallen

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamond.asp?find=1&cid=130&item=1111644http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/F-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1111644.asp?b=16&a=12&c=77&cid=131

Just waiting for theit confirmation whether it is eyeclean. This one is biggest among the three. No H&A - though it doesn''t matter to me.
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At VS2, I''d be really surprised if it isn''t. Let us know!
 
Date: 12/11/2007 12:49:05 PM
Author: Ellen

Date: 12/11/2007 12:44:19 PM
Author: sneijder
Is there a three sided coin? Because I have not given up the one on Jamesallen

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamond.asp?find=1&cid=130&item=1111644http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/F-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1111644.asp?b=16&a=12&c=77&cid=131

Just waiting for theit confirmation whether it is eyeclean. This one is biggest among the three. No H&A - though it doesn''t matter to me.
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At VS2, I''d be really surprised if it isn''t. Let us know!
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I was saying about this one earlier, I think there is a good chance this one will be eyeclean
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I am afraid I cannot tell you whether it is eyeclean...the one on Jamesallen is already gone...Again congratulations to the buyer.
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But I do find another one on Jamesallen -

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamond.asp?find=1&cid=130&item=1111155

This one is cheaper than the WF and GoG one I mentioned before, probably because it is not H&A. So I will probably take it. Anyone can give me the final push?
 
I personally would pass on that last stone. The crown angle is shallower than I''d ever want to go, and these numbers are rounded. So it could be a smidge better (but not enough for me), or it could be worse. That''s why it''s less, it doesn''t have as desirable numbers.
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I''d suggest the two you were considering before, WF and GOG.
 
Ditto Ellen, I prefer the previous 2 diamonds.
 
Thritto that - I wouldn''t be comfortable with such a shallow crown angle either.
 
I was looking for a final push but instead get a pull from you! But thanks a lot for the useful advice. I will go for the GoG one!
 
Date: 12/12/2007 12:12:58 PM
Author: sneijder
I was looking for a final push but instead get a pull from you! But thanks a lot for the useful advice. I will go for the GoG one!
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Excellent - now get it on hold QUICK before it gets grabbed!
 
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