Please help compare the two diamonds

[Lina128]

Hi, friends. Thank you for your previous answers to my question two days ago. It really helped.
I bring a new question today, after asking for opinion on a 0.581 carat diamond and a 0.821 diamond (both ACA H&A) here, I found a new one which maybe comparable. But I need your professional opinion whether it''s worthwhile taking look at this one:
(the reason I want to look at this one is that, comparing to the 0.821 carat diamond, it has better color, and the most important reason is that the Depth is 59.5% (the other one is 61.2%). From what I learned here, I think that a Depth under 60% will look better. There are some minor reason like the culet and fluorescent of this one is none. But I''m not sure if this one is hearts&arrows)
So, please help me decide! Thank you in advance!

0.8 ct D VS1 Round
$4,535.00
Call for Availability
. Report: GIA
. Shape: Round
. Carat: 0.80
. Depth %: 59.5
. Table %: 57
. Girdle: TN
. Measurements: 6.09-6.12X3.63
. Polish: Excellent
. Symmetry: Excellent
. Culet: None
. Fluorescence: None

It''s not in-house, so I''ll ask for ideal-scope, aset later, if you think it''s worthwhile.
The link for this diamond is here:
http://www.whiteflash.com/diamonds/Diamond_Details.aspx?idno=2125687

FYI, the other one I''m looking at is this:
0.821 ct F VS1 Whiteflash ACA
$4,371.00
Item Available - Ready to ship

. Report: AGS
. Shape: Whiteflash ACA
. Carat: 0.821
. Depth %: 61.2
. Table %: 57.3
. Crown Angle: 34.8
. Crown %: 14.9
. Star : 53
. Pavilion Angle: 40.7
. Pavilion %: 42.8
. Lower Girdle %: 78
. Girdle: Thin to Medium Faceted
. Measurements: 6.00-6.02X3.68
. Light Performance: 0
. Polish: Ideal
. Symmetry: Ideal
. Culet: Pointed
. Fluorescence: Negligible

The link for this diamond is here:
http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/Whiteflash-ACA-cut-diamond-2133625.htm

 

[Todd Gray]

Date: 7/7/2009 2:58:50 PM
Author:Lina128
0.8 ct D VS1 Round
$4,535.00
Call for Availability
. Report: GIA
. Shape: Round
. Carat: 0.80
. Depth %: 59.5
. Table %: 57
. Girdle: TN
. Measurements: 6.09-6.12X3.63
. Polish: Excellent
. Symmetry: Excellent
. Culet: None
. Fluorescence: None

It's not in-house, so I'll ask for ideal-scope, aset later, if you think it's worthwhile.
The link for this diamond is here:
http://www.whiteflash.com/diamonds/Diamond_Details.aspx?idno=2125687

There is a diamond with this description that I found on the dealer MLS which is GIA #2105764878 and the lab report indicates the crown angle is 32.5 degrees offset by a pavilion angle of 41.0 degrees if that helps you compare the two options... The primary inclusion is indicated as a feather coming in from the edge of the stone around the 3 o'clock region of the lower plotting diagram.

 

[jet2ks]

Date: 7/7/2009 2:58:50 PM
Author:Lina128
Hi, friends. Thank you for your previous answers to my question two days ago. It really helped.
I bring a new question today, after asking for opinion on a 0.581 carat diamond and a 0.821 diamond (both ACA H&A) here, I found a new one which maybe comparable. But I need your professional opinion whether it's worthwhile taking look at this one:
(the reason I want to look at this one is that, comparing to the 0.821 carat diamond, it has better color, and the most important reason is that the Depth is 59.5% (the other one is 61.2%). From what I learned here, I think that a Depth under 60% will look better. There are some minor reason like the culet and fluorescent of this one is none. But I'm not sure if this one is hearts&arrows)

Why? Of these two stones, I would easily pick the F. It is extremely unlikely that you would be able to tell the color difference, even if they were side by side. The first stone we don't have much information yet, but when you get into depths under 60% you have to be careful of obstruction or fish-eye issues. The F is a fantastically well cut diamond.

EDT: If the stone is indeed the one Todd found (Thanks, Todd) it may well be OK, a 41 pavillion is good. We would need IS or ASET to help determine, I personally wouldn't bring it in with that beautiful F sitting there ready to go.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/7/2009 3:18:22 PM
Author: jet2ks

Date: 7/7/2009 2:58:50 PM
Author:Lina128
Hi, friends. Thank you for your previous answers to my question two days ago. It really helped.
I bring a new question today, after asking for opinion on a 0.581 carat diamond and a 0.821 diamond (both ACA H&A) here, I found a new one which maybe comparable. But I need your professional opinion whether it''s worthwhile taking look at this one:
(the reason I want to look at this one is that, comparing to the 0.821 carat diamond, it has better color, and the most important reason is that the Depth is 59.5% (the other one is 61.2%). From what I learned here, I think that a Depth under 60% will look better. There are some minor reason like the culet and fluorescent of this one is none. But I''m not sure if this one is hearts&arrows)

Why? Of these two stones, I would easily pick the F. It is extremely unlikely that you would be able to tell the color difference, even if they were side by side. The first stone we don''t have much information yet, but when you get into depths under 60% you have to be very careful of obstruction or fish-eye issues. The F is a fantastically well cut diamond.

Ditto the F is a great stone, and no that isn''t the case that depths 60%>

 

[stone-cold11]

Looks good from the numbers. 60% depth and lower generally has better spread, also generally cut more for brightness, which is the case for this, than for a balance of brightness and fire, which is what the ACA is cut to.

 

[Lina128]

Thank you guys for your input! I''m totally confused now. At first, I think I should definitely choose the ACA H&A one. But after reading the latest post, I think the numbers are really great that I should take a look at the first one. I have sent an email to my SA asking for GIA report, ideal-scope, and aset.

Could you please share with me more thoughts on the cut of the two? The HCA score for the first one is 0.3, with all four categories as excellent. For the second one, the HCA score is around 1, with the first three categories as excellent, and the spread evaluation as very good.

So, what do you think?

 

[Lina128]

I just got the GIA report of the first one. Could you share your opinion please? (Oh, the HCA score should be 0.6)

 

[stone-cold11]

Numbers looks good, now we will have to wait for the IS/ASET.

Cut wise, a shallower crown angle usually means less fire, light being split into component colors, as the light ray is less likely to be refracted.

 

[Lina128]

My SA told me she can only provide the aset after the diamond shipped to WF. However, if I decide not to buy it, I will have to pay the shipping fee, which I think should be high. I''m now lean to the WF ACA H&A one, I hope I''m not choosing wrong

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/7/2009 8:18:41 PM
Author: Lina128
My SA told me she can only provide the aset after the diamond shipped to WF. However, if I decide not to buy it, I will have to pay the shipping fee, which I think should be high. I''m now lean to the WF ACA H&A one, I hope I''m not choosing wrong

I would definitely stick with the ACA.

 

[stone-cold11]

yap, go with the ACA, safe bet.