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Please find a 1ct round for a WF classic tiffany in platinum

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stan the man

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Looking for biggest sparkle for buck.

Size : 0.95 - 1.25 ct

Cut : IDEAL! Was originally looking at ACA to guarantee great cut but would rather get a bigger ES stone than pay for H&A / ACA brand.

Colour : So long as it looks white not fussed what the cert says.

Clarity: Eye Clean VS2/SI1?

flouro : Possibly some Blue to help with colour (so long as it doesn''t go cloudy)

Budget : $4-6.5K for diamond

Setting: WF classic tiffany in platinum.


Thanks for reading and I look forward to any suggestions.
 
Hi Stan

Just shove your criteria into the search function at the top of the page to get a list of possibilities. Once you''ve got a few stones in mind, post the stats here and get some opinions.
 
Hi Spliter

Tried searching and as Ellen said theres not much in ES. Thought maybe I was missing something but there doesn''t seem to be any ES bargains in my price range.


That ACA looks interesting thanks Ellen, Since I''m set on the whiteflash setting and I need to get the ring shipped to the UK I was limiting to WF stones.
 
Date: 4/16/2008 11:28:55 AM
Author: stan the man
Hi Spliter

That ACA looks interesting thanks Ellen, Since I''m set on the whiteflash setting and I need to get the ring shipped to the UK I was limiting to WF stones.
I understand. You could always have the setting shipped to GOG for setting the diamond if you wanted, but I do realize it''s easiest to get both in one place! Just wanted to throw out a slightly bigger stone. That''s a nice ACA though.

And you''re welcome!
 
That is nice Muss but as I said I"m trying to stick to WhiteFlash. Think it'd be easier dealing with one store especially from Scotland.

Anyone else have opinions on the ACA Ellen posted
http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-906722.htm#

What if I pushed the budget to 7.5 or 8 k Can I get a far superior stone. Would mean putting the new TV and or laptop on hold.

Edit decided to stick to a 7K budget seems theres a whole bunch of ACA's ~1.25ct under that price.

Any opinions on these or any others I've missed
http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-608062.htm
http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-906737.htm
http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-906735.htm
http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-906736.htm
http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-906713.htm
http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-906738.htm
http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-906716.htm
 
The 1.27 J VS2 is facing up the biggest. If you're ok with that color, go for it. Next in line would be the 1.28 I SI2 (eyeclean?), followed by the 1.25 I.
 
Thanks again Ellen.

Unfortunately the 1.27 J doesn''t have an image so I may contact Wf and see if I they can get me one. Going to have a look for the thread of J images.
I believe J ideal cuts should face up very white but can show a little colour from the side; in the 6 prong Tiffany setting should I be worried about side view showing colour? Also cert shows a small cloud and feather on the table(can''t be hidden behind a prong) I take it VS2 means this shouldn''t be visable to the naked eye?

The H SI2 doesn''t have the cert uploaded yet so I don''t know what/where the inclusions are.
Can''t see anthing disturbing in the image though.
H SI2 40x image
 
. Report: GIA
. Shape: Round Ideal Cut
. Carat: 1.00
. Depth %: 62.8
. Table %: 56
. Crown Angle: 37
. Crown %: 16.5
. Star : 55
. Pavilion Angle: 40
. Pavilion %: 42
. Lower Girdle %: 80
. Girdle: Medium to Slightly thick
. Measurements: 6.31-6.33X3.97
. Polish: Very Good
. Symmetry: Very Good
. Culet: None
. Fluorescence: Medium Blue

HCA 0.8 FIC


1ct F SI2
any opinions?
 
Hmm... it''s only GIA Very Good cut grade. Although the angles seem to compensate in theory. I don''t know, it just doesn''t appeal to me for some reason... Just personal preference I guess. The folks at Whiteflash should be able to give you a good idea of how it looks in person though.
 
Date: 4/17/2008 10:12:18 AM
Author: stan the man
Thanks again Ellen.

Unfortunately the 1.27 J doesn''t have an image so I may contact Wf and see if I they can get me one. Going to have a look for the thread of J images.
I believe J ideal cuts should face up very white but can show a little colour from the side; in the 6 prong Tiffany setting should I be worried about side view showing colour? Also cert shows a small cloud and feather on the table(can''t be hidden behind a prong) I take it VS2 means this shouldn''t be visable to the naked eye?

The H SI2 doesn''t have the cert uploaded yet so I don''t know what/where the inclusions are.
Can''t see anthing disturbing in the image though.
H SI2 40x image
I have an VS2 ACA with a cloud under the table and a feather just off to the side of the table and I can''t see a damn thing. I spent 30 mins one day trying with a loupe, and finally found it, only to have to go and lie down from motionsickness and a headache from looking through the loupe for so long (30x mind you, not a 10x). Not a chance in h*ll I could see it with my naked eyes. Ask Brian to have a look at it for you, but I 99% sure a VS2 will be eyeclean.
 
The angles and medium to sl thick girdle give the stone a spread of 6.32mm. Seems pretty small for 1ct?

idealscope
and
ASET

seem a bit dull to me.

so is this a good or bad example of an FIC?
 
Date: 4/18/2008 9:12:51 AM
Author: stan the man
The angles and medium to sl thick girdle give the stone a spread of 6.32mm. Seems pretty small for 1ct?

idealscope
and
ASET

seem a bit dull to me.

so is this a good or bad example of an FIC?
It''s not bad, for what it is. Are you wanting a FIC? or an ideal cut? Just wondering why this popped up, considering the ones you were looking at.

And yes, a 1 ct. should be around 6.5.
 
Thanks honey good to know I wouldn''t have any issues with a VS2. SI1''s seem more of a mixed bag.

Still unsure on J colour without Flouro. read the J in platinum thread and it almost seems too good to be true.


The 1ct SI1 FIC inclusions look quite bad at 40x but if the feather lower left can be hidden by a prong maybe it''s not so bad.

still $5k for a SI1 facing up at .9ct, It would have to look stunning to be worth it. and the images don''t jump out at me as being so.
 
Sorry Ellen I gave the impression I was looking for the biggest face up diamond but I'm really looking for the best performing diamond to the eye not bothered about the cert figures or H&A pattern. In fact my 'wife to be' said one of her friends has a very large exspensive ring but the diamond had no life or sprakle so thankfully size isn't everything to her. she'd like ~1ct stone and trusts me to get the best looking stone without spending all my savings.


Unfortunately I'm an obsessive bargain hunter and I'm not sure what I want, from reading some of Garys posts BIC and FIC can look equally ideal as an TIC but save cash as they're not priced as ideal.


I did't go out my way to look for an FIC I found it using the pricescope cut quality search but if this outperforms ideal cuts for similar $'s why not.
 
Date: 4/18/2008 9:46:32 AM
Author: stan the man
That''s the problem I''m not sure what I want, from reading some of Garys posts BIC and FIC can look equally ideal as an TIC but save cash as they''re not priced as ideal.

Unfortunately I''m an obsessive bargain hunter, and as I alluded before I''m looking for the best performing diamond to the eye not bothered about the cert, or a H&A.

I did''t go out my way to look for an FIC I found it using the pricescope cut quality search but if this outperforms ideal cuts for similar $''s why not.
In that case, I would recommend sticking to ideal cuts, such as those you picked out from WF.
 
I took so long to write my post I didn''t realise you''d replied, so I edited it and you''d already replied again.

Thanks so much for your input Ellen I hope you didn''t think I was disregarding your earlier suggestions they''re still at the top of my list. Just looking to see what I can get at the lower end of my budget. I guess I can keep compromising and save a few k but I really want this diamond to blow her socks off.

She''s such a special girl I want it to be perfect and if that means I have to spend the full whack to get it then that''s what I''ll do.
 
Date: 4/18/2008 10:06:24 AM
Author: stan the man
I took so long to write my post I didn't realise you'd replied, so I edited it and you'd already replied again.

Thanks so much for your input Ellen I hope you didn't think I was disregarding your earlier suggestions they're still at the top of my list. Just looking to see what I can get at the lower end of my budget. I guess I can keep compromising and save a few k but I really want this diamond to blow her socks off.

She's such a special girl I want it to be perfect and if that means I have to spend the full whack to get it then that's what I'll do.
No problem, I didn't think that!

Seriously, I understand not wanting to spend any more than you have to. But you really do get what you pay for, we all do. So if you want to get something that will knock her socks off, and look great in any lighting anytime, get her a super ideal cut like the ACA. I promise, the looks you catch on her face as she daily admires the ring will make you forget all about that small hole in your wallet.
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And you're quite welcome!
 
Sent a request to Lesley @ whiteflash asking someone(Brian?) to look at the first one Ellen suggested and the 1.27 j VS2.

The idealscope for the 1.118 I SI1 looks great but theres no online cert so I don''t know what the inclusions are like.

Also asked if they recommend any others 1-1.25ct, eye clean ACA''s for < $7k.
 
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